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[Moriath]

Why does anyone collect anything? It's just part of human nature. Sure they are just expensive toys and completely non-essential but that pretty much defines the entire luxury market. Sometimes you just want to own something nice or to commemorate a special occasion. It doesn't have to be a watch but they are the one piece of 'jewellery' its accepted by everyone to be okay for a man to wear.

Jewellery ick

 

[Zarjazz]

I'm sure there are many of us on this forum who if we told people how much we had spent on PC hardware throughout our lives would be just as bemused and horrified. 😄

 

[caLLous]

It seems to be an Orange problem in France. Reddit, Twitch, Github, Amazon are all down. It looks like a DNS/routing snafu.

 

[Scouse]

they are the one piece of 'jewellery' its accepted by everyone to be okay for a man to wear.

Gayyyyyyyyy!

 

[DaGaffer]

I'm sure there are many of us on this forum who if we told people how much we had spent on PC hardware throughout our lives would be just as bemused and horrified. 😄

I spent enough on my comic book collection to buy a Porsche. And not a wannabe Boxster or Cayman, a 911. When I sold it I probably got 5% of its cost. If I'd been collecting watches instead I'd have probably made a profit.

 

[Bodhi]

Gawd. FH is filling up with fashion victims!

What's the point gents? Really? It tells the time. Are you magpies?

For a very expensive piece of jewellery, how much joy does it actually bring you? If you had 5k to spunk on a really good memorable family holiday with your kids @DaGaffer would that not give you lifelong memories that you could fondly look back on?

I think you should use the deathbed test when looking at purchases. If you're on your deathbed, would you really look back at a watch and go "that brought me a lot of joy".

Who gives a fuck what people want to spend their hard earned money on? Not a watch person myself - although I do have a lovely TAG Heuer - but if it keeps people happy, they should crack on.

 

[Scouse]

Who gives a fuck what people want to spend their hard earned money on?

People who understand that consumerism and survival of the environment are at odds.

I wouldn't have said a thing if it was team fortress hats

 

[Raven]

I buy rifles and power tools atm! Pretty boring stuff but all get used, the guns won't lose much value (I sold one not so long ago for more than I paid for it)

 

[Zarjazz]

I think the conclusion is that hobbies, no matter how mundane they seem to outsiders, become increasingly costly the more obsessed you get.

 

[Bodhi]

People who understand that consumerism and survival of the environment are at odds.

I wouldn't have said a thing if it was team fortress hats

Ah yes, that well known destroyer of habitats, the luxury watch market.

 

[Scouse]

Ah yes, that well known destroyer of habitats, the luxury watch market.

Predictable response - you don't actually think, you've some ingrained default responses that are there to deflect real engagement.

Thats why I said consumerism and the survival of the environment, not watches. Because the problem is clearly systemic.

@Job'll be happy if the new world order can fix it with it's great reset though eh?

 

[Job]

The problem is.
Certain people have spent so long making sarcastic exaggerated replies to new world order that thay reach for the fantasy every time they hear that phrase.

New world order could just be Africa having a better gdp per cap than Europe, or it could be the end of gender.

I know you want me to say it would be white people leaving for Mars.

 

[Lamp]

My Dad's got an old car. One of his indicators wasn't working. He cleaned the connector and the bulb worked. Awesome. He told me it's the original bulb. It's still working after 23 years!

 

[Job]

Im collecting bikes, because they are actually useful, the fatbike just puts a smile on my face every fucking day.


View: https://streamable.com/wv253r

 

[Lamp]

@Job What camera are you using? Is it one of those rugged outdoors unbreakable numbers?

 

[BloodOmen]

2020 in a nutshell


View: https://www.facebook.com/504286244/videos/10157549624081245/

 

[Job]

@Job What camera are you using? Is it one of those rugged outdoors unbreakable numbers?

Yes a hero8..but its not as unbreakable as I would like.

 

[Deebs]

Fair enough. I'm sure you like them for their many varied styles and complex designs.

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I don't have that range and having small wrists looks silly on me. I went for a Radiomir model and I love it.

 

[Deebs]

People who understand that consumerism and survival of the environment are at odds.

I wouldn't have said a thing if it was team fortress hats

Fucking hell. Give it a rest. People who have surplus cash are going to spend on things they like regardless of the impact of the environment.

Did I need an Xbox Series X over my One X? Probably not but I fucking bought one because I could and did I think of the environment whilst refreshing the Amazon page a thousand times a second, DID I FUCK.

 

[Job]

So Question time is freefalling its viewership, 50% drop since March and in fact only pulls around 700k watching it live on tv.
Probably due to the pandemic rules.

BBC Confirms Viewing Figures Have Halved for Question Time

Live viewing figures for the BBC's flagship political show Question Time have slumped to historic lows, with episodes over the last couple of months

order-order.com

Total 1.4m for a recent show including catchup.

I get an angry anti bbc , posting from his bedroom guy in my youtube feed now and then, amuses me that he points out he gets the same amount of views combined in his three times weekly posts combined.
And its him with a webcam and zero budget, while QT has a permanent 22 staff and access to the countries top politicians.

 

[Ormorof]

Maybe more to do with how we are consuming this media? I watched "normal" tv the other day and was astonished at the amount of ads you get bombarded with. Ive gotten so used to not seeing ads during remote work + streaming services + ad block it was jarring.

Add to that the idea of watching tv on someone elses schedule, yeah no thanks

 

[Raven]

I think its likely down to the fact people have had enough of current affairs (which is basically just Coronavirus and Brexit atm) so don't want to watch even more.

 

[Scouse]

Fucking hell. Give it a rest. People who have surplus cash are going to spend on things they like regardless of the impact of the environment.

Did I need an Xbox Series X over my One X? Probably not but I fucking bought one because I could and did I think of the environment whilst refreshing the Amazon page a thousand times a second, DID I FUCK.

Exactly!

And that's not only normal but actually a desire that's artificially stoked in us.

But the wider point I made isn't uncontroversial or poorly understood - it's just nobody in charge really wants to do owt about it.

I have a beef with jewellry, cosmetics, fashion. It's the most pointless of frippary that you can spend your hard earned on and they're damaging industries given their generally throwaway nature, hence my post.

But reasonably, you can't (and wouldn't want, unless you were some extreme idiot zealot) humanity to live like ascetics. However, it's clear that a big shift in consumption patterns is needed if we're going to stop shitting on our paradise.

I don't think humanity is capable of making those choices (and the others we need to make if we are to survive long term - just look at the outright panic in the far right that's been prompted because someone wrote a book that suggests we try to rebalance capitalism to make it a bit more sustainable - even Job is aware these discussions are happening and is suffering outright existential hysteria over the idea). But I still think there's value in discussing these things as it keeps the wider idea alive outside of the Davos set.



As I've promised @Jupitus and @MYstIC G I'd be more positive - here's old Bill being funny, relevant and true:


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tHEOGrkhDp0

 

[Raven]

I don't think high end jewellery and watches fall into the bracket of disposable consumerism tbh.

 

[Zarjazz]

I don't think high end jewellery and watches fall into the bracket of disposable consumerism tbh.

Agreed. What has a mechanical watch ever done to harm the environment. 😏

 

[Scouse]

I don't think high end jewellery and watches fall into the bracket of disposable consumerism tbh.

I absolutely agree. i don't want to die on a hill of rolexes, but it does fit a pattern of unnecessary consumption.

Collecting for collecting's sake rather than utilitarian use is purely harmful to the environment for little reason (and part of the reason why the mega-rich are the most harmful).

You can absolutely still have gorgeously made, amazing mechanical watches that are used, not hidden in drawers.

@Zarjazz - love the meme and absolutely it's correct in showing that there are higher priorities. However, as it's a meme it's reductionist when it comes to the argument - we must look across the whole consumption chain. Just because there are larger harms isn't an excuse to exclude the smaller (that's effectively the same argument that gets deployed against everyone doing recycling when there are bigger outsize issues). Everything must be in scope.

The question governments need to be asking are, in an overpopulated world of finite resources, how loose can we afford to be?

 

[Moriath]

I absolutely agree. i don't want to die on a hill of rolexes, but it does fit a pattern of unnecessary consumption.

Collecting for collecting's sake rather than utilitarian use is purely harmful to the environment for little reason (and part of the reason why the mega-rich are the most harmful).

You can absolutely still have gorgeously made, amazing mechanical watches that are used, not hidden in drawers.

@Zarjazz - love the meme and absolutely it's correct in showing that there are higher priorities. However, as it's a meme it's reductionist when it comes to the argument - we must look across the whole consumption chain. Just because there are larger harms isn't an excuse to exclude the smaller (that's effectively the same argument that gets deployed against everyone doing recycling when there are bigger outsize issues). Everything must be in scope.

The question governments need to be asking are, in an overpopulated world of finite resources, how loose can we afford to be?

I used to collect model frogs when i were young. From different holiday places and such. You want to die on a pile of those?

 

[Bodhi]

Predictable response - you don't actually think, you've some ingrained default responses that are there to deflect real engagement.

Thats why I said consumerism and the survival of the environment, not watches. Because the problem is clearly systemic.

@Job'll be happy if the new world order can fix it with it's great reset though eh?

I tend not to engage properly when I know the person in question is going to reach straight for the ad homs when someone dares to challenge his extremist ideology.

Like all religious people really.

 

[Scouse]

extremist ideology.

That's the next thing in the denialist handbook. Paint reasonable argument in the persual of necessary progress as extremist zealotry, to disguise your own 'free-market' zealotry and desire to halt progress. All because of what it very clearly means for an over-consumptive lifestyle.

You have the same opinion on smoking, fast food, climate change, oil use, renewable energy. The exact same opinion.

Fair enough. You've planted your flag. But I think the world is realising that you and those who think like you are the 'extremists'. Which is why the people who really matter - those with the funding to slow progress in preservation of their massive profits - are changing their tactics as those old tropes are failing.

 

[Scouse]

I used to collect model frogs when i were young. From different holiday places and such. You want to die on a pile of those?

Pics or it didn't happen