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Discussion in 'The Front Room' started by kirennia, Jun 10, 2007.

  1. Embattle

    Embattle FH is my second home

    Then I guess he should of been less of a jackass while he was there then, either way I still see no issue other than random people trying to pick who should and shouldn't be subject to extradition treaties rather than it being decided in the place it has already know in the courts.
  2. Wij

    Wij I am a FH squatter FH Subscriber

    Courts or GTFO tbh.
  3. Wij

    Wij I am a FH squatter FH Subscriber

    No. He broke the law and he's a shit anyway.
  4. Scouse

    Scouse HERO! FH Subscriber

    That's not what I asked.

    Your religious hatred of Trump, and therefore Assange, has led you to a course of thinking where you'd throw all whistleblowers under the bus regardless of how vital it is that we understand the workings of our government.

    Most whistleblowers break laws to provide information. I find it quite sad that you can't bring yourself to admit that.
  5. Gwadien

    Gwadien Uneducated Northern Cretin

    I don't think it's a good idea to allow any trial in a country who is heavily influenced by the US.

    International courts or gtfo.
  6. Wij

    Wij I am a FH squatter FH Subscriber

    He isn't being charged for whistleblowing and I disliked Assange before Trump. You aren't going to make me care sorry.
  7. Scouse

    Scouse HERO! FH Subscriber

    I don't care if you dislike Assange. It's the fact that you refuse to discuss whistleblowers that aren't Assange.

    You're utterly single-minded on it and I find it bizarre is all :\
  8. Wij

    Wij I am a FH squatter FH Subscriber

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  9. Scouse

    Scouse HERO! FH Subscriber

    What a source you've found!

    And what a cunt that guy is: "In the March 2006 issue of Commentary, Schoenfeld called for the government to prosecute a number of reporters and editors at The New York Times under the espionage statutes after it broke the story of the National Security Agency's warrantless surveillance of people within the United States"

    Can see which side his bread is buttered. Accuses New York Times journalists of espionage because they published that the US government carries out warrantless surveillance of their own public - in breach of their own bill of rights.

    Espionage! That's a capital punishment offence. He wanted to kill the journalists reporting on governmental crime.

  10. Wij

    Wij I am a FH squatter FH Subscriber

    Shooting the messenger. The article is correct. The charge is narrow. Stealing and publishing are different. Journalists know they aren’t allowed to help steal info or offer to do so. Journalism 101.
  11. Gwadien

    Gwadien Uneducated Northern Cretin

    I wouldn't even consider Wikileaks as journalism anyway.
  12. Wij

    Wij I am a FH squatter FH Subscriber

    I can agree with that.
  13. Scouse

    Scouse HERO! FH Subscriber

    Whatever. Large raft of academics disagree with you. And your messenger deserves shooting, because he's an authoritarian cunt.

    Shame you weigh the rights of the people to know what illegal shit their governments are doing so lightly against the punishment of leakers for misdemeanors.
  14. DaGaffer

    DaGaffer Down With That Sorta Thing

    Ever read the original accusations against him? It screams "fitup". Now, maybe he is guilty, but speaking as just-about the least tinfoil-hat wearing person on Earth, I still get a "dark forces at work" vibe.
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  15. Wij

    Wij I am a FH squatter FH Subscriber

    There were several allegations against him and they sounded quite reasonable to me. He can defend himself in court like everyone else.
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  16. Wij

    Wij I am a FH squatter FH Subscriber

    The leaks happened. It’s done. Now he can be prosecuted for breaking laws that won’t stop future leaks.
  17. Scouse

    Scouse HERO! FH Subscriber

    Rubbish. Chilling effect. Absolutely.

    Say experts that don't want to kill journalists.
  18. Wij

    Wij I am a FH squatter FH Subscriber

    Some. Not all by a long way. And they're wrong. In the articles we've both posted there have been real journalists involved in leaks. They are not being prosecuted. Assange will be prosecuted for rape or aiding hacking.
  19. Scouse

    Scouse HERO! FH Subscriber

    The ones you chose are right tho? You know, the ones that want to prosecute for espionage.

    With you on the rape. Hacking is fine if it uncovers murderous atrocity and government lies.

    Not just fine in fact - to be positively encouraged.

    We're going to go round in circles, so I'm going to leave it there m8.
  20. Job

    Job TWAT and FH Object of Ridicule

    Id like to see a breakdown of how that actually plays out in day to day economics.

    The super rich dont actually sit on a pile of money they have taken out of the they personally use it to influence?
    Or is it left to fund managers to keep the world ripe for profits.
    Would 'giving' it back help anyone.

    I need to find a for dummies youtube post.
  21. Job

    Job TWAT and FH Object of Ridicule

  22. old.Osy

    old.Osy No longer scrounging, still a bastard.

    Such a shitty video.

    Replace refugee with "total stranger", same shit. Nobody would.

    Quality journalism right there.
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  23. Job

    Job TWAT and FH Object of Ridicule

    Oh I see.
    Only refugees they know?

    Its undeniable liberal virtue signalling bullshit exposed for what it has always been.
    'Let them in you Nazis!'

    So someone else can deal with them.

    Puts Archers back on.
  24. Wij

    Wij I am a FH squatter FH Subscriber

    Not quite comparable though. That’s net wealth not asset ownership. The bottom 20% of people have negative wealth and then the next 20% is making that back to zero. That’s nearly to the 50% on a bullshit comparison. Net wealth is a dumb measure.

    Having said that wealth and income inequality is getting worse and it’s a bad thing. That’s why political messaging from Koch bros and Russian oligarchs is such a bad thing.
  25. fettoken

    fettoken FH is my second home

  26. Billargh

    Billargh FH is my second home

    Since when did allowing refugees into the country mean inviting them to come and live in your house? Jesus.
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  27. Scouse

    Scouse HERO! FH Subscriber

    Yep. Another Job being a wanker shocker.
  28. Gwadien

    Gwadien Uneducated Northern Cretin

    Lmao at the Ecuadorians.

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