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[Gwadien]

Well. Not so much put down snowflakes as to create a dissonance between the populace *tinfoil-mode on*. I think it's due to our (at least mine) short attention span due to increasing availability of information over the media-spectrum and how it's presented that leads to lessened scrutiny.

I'm trying to cut down my social media time more and more, but am honestly hooked a little bit

edit: To add, i think most media does a great job of turning a plethora of people on a wide spectrum against each other. Not with promoting a healthy discussion, but to create buzz, clicks and strong opinions.

Yeah.

Well, it's either as you say; a way just to cause some sort of conflict within society to distract from wider issues.

Or (which I'd say is more likely) is that Russia wants the Right to gain more power across the world, but looking at what they're getting involved in, there definitely is a theme.

 

[Wij]

I'd say it works pretty well given the number of people, including in here, that think everyone who isn't on the right is a hysterical, anti-men, paid-by-Soros, violent antifa...

 

[Job]

So someone SAYS they were paid for one story and its the Russians trying to divide the west.
How about the bullshit our media put out as news, staged outside broadcasts, out of context reporting, shot cropping and coercing people to cheer or boo.

 

[Wij]

So someone SAYS they were paid for one story and its the Russians trying to divide the west.
How about the bullshit our media put out as news, staged outside broadcasts, out of context reporting, shot cropping and coercing people to cheer or boo.

I rest my case.

 

[Gwadien]

So someone SAYS they were paid for one story and its the Russians trying to divide the west.
How about the bullshit our media put out as news, staged outside broadcasts, out of context reporting, shot cropping and coercing people to cheer or boo.

Have you watched the video? When I watched it I thought it was weird how most the blokes seemed to be pretty cool with it.

Shot cropping/coercing people to cheer or boo?


View: https://youtu.be/5ZJ_kKnip2k?t=104

 

[Moriath]

Met boss 'locked car door' during terror attack

One of his staff was getting stabbed to death and he locked his car door. .

 

[Gwadien]

Met boss 'locked car door' during terror attack

One of his staff was getting stabbed to death and he locked his car door. .

I think anyone would have done exactly the same thing.

However, what I don't understand is that this guy has a driver and I assume security with him at all times - why didn't they do anything?

 

[Gwadien]

Well, most Sociology books I've seen say exactly the same thing.

GCSE book pulled over black stereotyping

 

[Job]

Have you watched the video? When I watched it I thought it was weird how most the blokes seemed to be pretty cool with it.

Shot cropping/coercing people to cheer or boo?


View: https://youtu.be/5ZJ_kKnip2k?t=104

Well I was talking about our media in situations like war and protest.

 

[Job]

Well, most Sociology books I've seen say exactly the same thing.

GCSE book pulled over black stereotyping

All the carribean people I have known have said the exact thing.
My exs father was never seen..the two jamaican girls in our group were brought up by their aunts and didnt find out till they were in their 20s.

 

[Gwadien]

All the carribean people I have known have said the exact thing.
My exs father was never seen..the two jamaican girls in our group were brought up by their aunts and didnt find out till they were in their 20s.

You've asked every Caribbean you know about their family make up?

I suppose it could because it's a very generalised statement, when in reality it means Caribbeans living in London earning under X amount.

Which then you could say is it a race issue or are they products of their environments?

 

[Scouse]

Well, most Sociology books I've seen say exactly the same thing.

GCSE book pulled over black stereotyping

The experience of my neighbours on the right hand side shows the same thing too. And the neighbours across the road.

The neighbours to our left not though - but they are devout evangelical christians


Edit:

You've asked every Caribbean you know about their family make up?

It's a generalisation. I don't understand why people dislike generalisations - in general, if things are like this (i.e. most of the population that you're talking about) then your generalisation is accurate.

"In general, people who smoke are less likely to be healthy and more likely to die younger."

"but but but, granny smoked 20 a day and lived to 96!!11!!oneleven!1"

Which then you could say is it a race issue or are they products of their environments?

Clearly cultural products of their environment, it's not intrinsic to "blackness".

 

[dysfunction]

Generally you dislike generalisations.

 

[Scouse]

Generally you dislike generalisations.

Generally, yes. But if they're accurate then they're of a limited use.

 

[Hawkwind]

Have you watched the video? When I watched it I thought it was weird how most the blokes seemed to be pretty cool with it.

Shot cropping/coercing people to cheer or boo?


View: https://youtu.be/5ZJ_kKnip2k?t=104

Its quite funny that they put lots of women there supporting Trump, supporting a narrative they want to put out and in an attempt to overcome any possible backlash from recent events. The guy presenting the video does state that stage crafting is normal these days. Its all BS, between the media and politicians you cant actually trust what your seeing or hearing. Question everything for motive.

 

[Gwadien]

Its quite funny that they put lots of women there supporting Trump, supporting a narrative they want to put out and in an attempt to overcome any possible backlash from recent events. The guy presenting the video does state that stage crafting is normal these days. Its all BS, between the media and politicians you cant actually trust what your seeing or hearing. Question everything for motive.

Yeah, I don't think the Western media would straight up make something up though - I think they more mis-inform the truth.

I just watched the two videos on this;

Trump apologises to Kavanaugh over 'lies'

Misinformation is the key tool - 'The left is moving its base so much they'll be in Venezuela soon.'

Fear mongers.

 

[Lamp]

Mammatus clouds

 

[Wij]

Mammatus clouds

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Wtf. It’s like the sky has piles!

 

[Lamp]

Mammatus cloud - Wikipedia

 

[Job]

So now were starting to admit Churchill was a racist..so were all the western leaders at the time, they also supported eugenics and basically the sterilisation and eradication of the poor and brown people.
Hitlers views were mainstream before the war and havent gone away, the liberals have built a story, then started believing it themselves.
Trump and brexit comes along and they are aghast.
Well no shit sherlock, the longer you supress the truth the harder it kicks you up the ass.

Churchill quote lands astronaut in trouble

 

[Job]

Mammatus cloud - Wikipedia

We can safely say that it actually reminds Lamp of food...maybe whipped strawberry mousse.

 

[Moriath]

So now were starting to admit Churchill was a racist..so were all the western leaders at the time, they also supported eugenics and basically the sterilisation and eradication of the poor and brown people.
Hitlers views were mainstream before the war and havent gone away, the liberals have built a story, then started believing it themselves.
Trump and brexit comes along and they are aghast.
Well no shit sherlock, the longer you supress the truth the harder it kicks you up the ass.

Churchill quote lands astronaut in trouble

As i said before we cant judge the past actions of people by todays views.

Just look at 70s sitcoms to start with.

 

[Scouse]

As i said before we cant judge the past actions of people by todays views.

Just look at 70s sitcoms to start with.

We can and should. 70's sitcoms can be occasionally uncomfortable watching because of that.

However, we should judge the people through a prism of their time. I still doesn't mean we shouldn't condemn their old and outdated views.

That's the thing about progress. We learn to get better and learn when we've been wrong and do things differently.

People like @Job however, see Churchills idiot side and want to drag us back there, as if it's some sort of secret natural racist sauce that we should re-apply to everything. When the rest of us simply say "old people are funny"...

 

[Gwadien]

So now were starting to admit Churchill was a racist..so were all the western leaders at the time, they also supported eugenics and basically the sterilisation and eradication of the poor and brown people.
Hitlers views were mainstream before the war and havent gone away, the liberals have built a story, then started believing it themselves.
Trump and brexit comes along and they are aghast.
Well no shit sherlock, the longer you supress the truth the harder it kicks you up the ass.

Churchill quote lands astronaut in trouble

Eugenics was openly discussed across the world - many people had respected positive & negative eugenics PoVs - Negative eugenics wouldn't have been necessarily wiping out everyone who was disabled, but sterilising those who have a hereditary issues, basically creating humanity stronger by removing illnesses which are passed down.

Hitler stopped that conversation when he hijacked the negative eugenics argument and just went overboard, causing everyone to hate on it.

The debate is slowly starting to come back - scanning unborn babies for stuff and then aborting based on that, obviously it'll never be called a 'eugenics' debate again since it's such a dirty word.

 

[Zarjazz]

- scanning unborn babies for stuff and then aborting based on that, obviously it'll never be called a 'eugenics' debate again since it's such a dirty word.

It isn't far off from the day where they don't even have to abort. There are already some test cases where certain genetic conditions have been fixed in utero by viral based gene editing. Once that becomes more common place and the technology even more advanced you will get to the possibility of true designer babies. Job will love it, he'd want everyone to be born pure Aryan.

 

[Scouse]

The designer babies thing is fraught with terrible social consequences

 

[Lamp]

Talking of Churchill, anyone watched The Crown?
John Lithgow as Churchill is superb

 

[Gwadien]

The designer babies thing is fraught with terrible social consequences

Why?

 

[georgie]

Chinese girls will probably become extinct.

 

[Scouse]

Why?

Jeebuz man. You're a teacher.

Don't you cover this in school?