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[Scouse]

The thing about the Tour is that you still need to out there every day for a month and ride. It's not like running for 20 seconds and then you're done. I almost feel like they should just allow all drugs. Maybe some of the new drugs they would develop could benefit society.

Problem with that is the ethics of fucking over every athlete who wants to compete without taking risks with their health.

What they should do is go the other way - make the penalties even higher for not just the athlete but anyone peripheral involved.

 

[Scouse]

Its becoming more and more big brother telling us what to do.

Fatties have had their chance to slim the fuck down voluntarily but despite decades of health and diet advice they're not taking it.

75% of UK citizens are not only overweight or obese - which is a problem for them as individuals - but it's affecting their kids, their mental health and everyone else's health because the costs involved with supporting this legion of blubbery fucktards is bankrupting our health service and putting untold strain on other supporting services.

Add to that - they're not banning foods - if people *really* need to fill their face with processed "food" whilst getting ever and ever fatter they'll be able to - it'll cost 'em more is all.

Surely in a capitalist society the market should dictate.

Capitalism doesn't mean no market interventions. They're using the market - not banning things. They're making it more expensive to be idle blubbery fucktards who are too lazy or weak to do something about their weight.

 

[Moriath]

Why should they legislate on what i can afford to eat. And putting up the price affects the poor more than the rich. So its a discrimination against the poor in society who are priced out of certain foods while the rich can eat pretty much like they did before.

 

[Jupitus]

I read this and immediately went to McDonald's for 2 Sausage and Egg McMuffins and a large Coke.

On this very note I have recently developed in my kitchen home-cooked sausage and egg muffins. I figure 'home cooked' food is supposed to be more healthy so its a win win!

 

[Scouse]

Why should they legislate on what i can afford to eat. And putting up the price affects the poor more than the rich. So its a discrimination against the poor in society who are priced out of certain foods while the rich can eat pretty much like they did before.

The rich tend to eat good wholesome food, the poor eat shit, which is why they're massively overrepresented in the obesity stats.

If you want a reason, refer back to my post.

 

[Gwadien]

Fatties have had their chance to slim the fuck down voluntarily but despite decades of health and diet advice they're not taking it.

The rich tend to eat good wholesome food, the poor eat shit, which is why they're massively overrepresented in the obesity stats.

I don't understand, it's all down to decision yet you're now arguing that there might be an element of rich-poor divide?

Wut.

 

[Moriath]

The rich tend to eat good wholesome food, the poor eat shit, which is why they're massively overrepresented in the obesity stats.

If you want a reason, refer back to my post.

Lol i seen rich fat dudes as much as poor ones. Obesity is an equal opportunities afliction.

For example, someone from the poorest 10% of UK households will consume on average 1,845 calories per day while someone from the richest 10% of households would consume 2,009 calories.

Plus other stuff in here that shows its not clear cut that the poor are the fatest

Public health minister links obesity to poverty: what does the data show?

 

[Scouse]

What is it about weight that makes people deny the bleeding obvious?

I don't understand, it's all down to decision yet you're now arguing that there might be an element of rich-poor divide?

Two things not unrelated which are part of the spectrum of reasons humans get fat.

Poorly educated people from deprived backgrounds tend to make poorer choices when it comes to food and exercise. They're also more limited in their ability to partake in some sports and if they're from a poorly educated family they're more likely to have grown up with a poor diet.

@Moriath - you're pulling a Job and ignoring all of the data in the article you posted (that shows very clearly that in general poorer people are more likely to be fat (including some very clear graphs showing poorer = fatter)). You're cherry picking and ignoring the obvious sweep.

We don't have to rely on the Guardian tho. How about The European Journal of Public Health who've published this study on the very subject?

With clear statements like:

"Results: The unadjusted analyses revealed stark income inequalities in the risk of obesity at age 5 and 11"

and

Numerous studies show that in many developed countries, including the UK, there are income and other socioeconomic inequalities in the risk of childhood obesity.....
....these inequalities are likely explained by differential access to resources and/or knowledge by poorer parents who may practice worse health behaviours

So yes. It's complex, but the facts are that poor stupid people are more likely to make poor stupid diet decisions and teach their kids bad habits when it comes to eating (and just about fucking everything else).

This isn't controversial, complex or surprising in any way.

But what isn't surprising is that fat people, who eat poorly, are whining again.




Edit: BTW - if you say "but that's about kids" whilst ignoring the fact that it clearly states that this behaviour goes on into adulthood and therefore warrants early intervention I'll throw my toys out and go eat a load of cakes

 

[Access Denied]

The rich tend to eat good wholesome food, the poor eat shit, which is why they're massively overrepresented in the obesity stats.

If you want a reason, refer back to my post.

The problem with that argument is that pound for pound the good, wholesome foods tend to be quite a bit more expensive than the shit. I can, for example go to Iceland and buy 32 chicken nuggets for £1.50. Making my own while no doubt being more healthy, will cost 5-6 times as much just for the chicken. Yes there are other factors involved but the cost of food is among the top reasons for the marked difference in obesity levels between the rich and the poor.

 

[SilverHood]

If the UK Government really wanted to end obesity, they should legislate a tax cut for people who are healthy. Go to your checkup, doc says you are a healthy individual, get a grand off your tax bill. We already get insurance cheaper by having a gym membership, why not push that even further. Theresa May might just pull that one off. Could never happen in the in the land of the fat free though. Telling people to eat healthy and look after themselves is unconstitutional.

 

[Moriath]

What is it about weight that makes people deny the bleeding obvious?


Two things not unrelated which are part of the spectrum of reasons humans get fat.

Poorly educated people from deprived backgrounds tend to make poorer choices when it comes to food and exercise. They're also more limited in their ability to partake in some sports and if they're from a poorly educated family they're more likely to have grown up with a poor diet.

@Moriath - you're pulling a Job and ignoring all of the data in the article you posted (that shows very clearly that in general poorer people are more likely to be fat (including some very clear graphs showing poorer = fatter)). You're cherry picking and ignoring the obvious sweep.

We don't have to rely on the Guardian tho. How about The European Journal of Public Health who've published this study on the very subject?

With clear statements like:

and


So yes. It's complex, but the facts are that poor stupid people are more likely to make poor stupid diet decisions and teach their kids bad habits when it comes to eating (and just about fucking everything else).

This isn't controversial, complex or surprising in any way.

But what isn't surprising is that fat people, who eat poorly, are whining again.




Edit: BTW - if you say "but that's about kids" whilst ignoring the fact that it clearly states that this behaviour goes on into adulthood and therefore warrants early intervention I'll throw my toys out and go eat a load of cakes

Why is being poor suddenly about education as well. I am sure there are some higher functioning people who earn less than the average wage.

And yes there were graphs in there that showed a difference with poorer people but the change was a few percentage points in mails it looked like 4 to 6 percent difference depending on education. Which is not enough to say all the fat people are poorly educated.

 

[Job]

No..its a certain person letting their liberal education snobbery ,prejudice and bigotry leak out.

 

[Job]

So azanaband?
Wtf is it about...viral advertising for what, the device is obviously boloks.
AzanaBand

Lot of money spent on primetime adverts...is it the Russians?

 

[Lamp]

Funnily enough you can get them:

https://www.tescoopticians.com/Prescription-Windscreens/?hc_location=uf

 

[Scouse]

Which is not enough to say all the fat people are poorly educated.

Can you show me where I said that @Moriath, rather than saying "more likely..." - (and backing it up with cold, hard science). Quit whining.

The problem with that argument is that pound for pound the good, wholesome foods tend to be quite a bit more expensive than the shit.

People can eat healthily cheaply - but some people may have to re-educate yourself on what food actually is.

Yes - there's definitely a link between poverty and obesity, education too (and lots of other things). But on food itself - this is one of the things that's already been discussed in this thread - fucking chicken nuggets (n' stuff).

I can, for example go to Iceland and buy 32 chicken nuggets for £1.50.

It's not fucking food! It's just cheap shit calories you can take in, but nutritionally useless.

Making my own while no doubt being more healthy, will cost 5-6 times as much just for the chicken

So don't make fucking chicken nuggets FFS! Chicken nuggets are not the cornerstone of a healthy diet.

People who eat like this, who tend to be poor and poorly-educated (but not exclusively) need to completely change what they eat, how they eat, when they eat it, how they cook it, where they buy it, yadda yadda yadda.

Again - to be clear - I'm absolutely sympathetic to the plight. As an animal we've not evolved to live in such an artificial bullshit environment. Our environment is obesogenic - it's where we live and our society that's the main driver - so whilst individuals can (and do) make monumental efforts to control their food that's clearly too much of an effort and/or too complex an issue for 75% of the population.

It's literally killing us and for the individuals who are succefully managing themselves it's killing them too because the health service is going down the pan because of the related management of stuff that would be much less prevalant if people were the correct weight and properly active.

So I welcome government action (although I'd like to see proper structural action taken, rather than standard government sticking-plaster stuff) in an attempt to solve a very real crisis.

At the same time I've no time for fatties who are whining about some bullshit supposed loss of liberty when governments start trying to do something about it. They can fuck off!




Anyway. That's enough about fat. Back to vids of kittens and puppies.

 

[Scouse]

It's Rick Mayall day

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=sMjzixsIBEk

 

[Bodhi]

So help me get this straight in my head @Scouse, do you hate poor people or not?

Kind of getting mixed messages here.

 

[Scouse]

I can't help it if you struggle with comprehension @Bodhi ...

 

[Bodhi]

Just intrigued how you can claim to be such a champion of the poor but spend your entire life looking down your noses at them - they eat the wrong stuff, vote the wrong way, are all racist etc etc.

Anyway in the spirit of the "advice" from PHE, I am currently considering what to fill my skinny frame with at lunchtime. Whopper or Grand Big Mac?

 

[Scouse]

Stating people are eating the wrong stuff, making them obese and fucking over the health service - and additionally discussing the wider ramifications and links between these things - and backing those statements with evidence - then that's not "looking down your nose" at people - that's just stating a fucking cold hard fact.

If you feel that you're being shat on @Bodhi, that some of this applies to you (maybe the nutritional side as opposed to the obesity side) and you don't like it, then perhaps don't shoot the messenger and look to take responsibility for yourself instead?

 

[Bodhi]

Stating people are eating the wrong stuff, making them obese and fucking over the health service - and additionally discussing the wider ramifications and links between these things - and backing those statements with evidence - then that's not "looking down your nose" at people - that's just stating a fucking cold hard fact.

If you feel that you're being shat on @Bodhi, that some of this applies to you (maybe the nutritional side as opposed to the obesity side) and you don't like it, then perhaps don't shoot the messenger and look to take responsibility for yourself instead?

I don't feel I'm being shat on at all - I'm not poor, malnourished or racist so care not a jot, as I said, just intrigued by the utter contradictions between your political views and subsequent arguments.

 

[Scouse]

I don't feel I'm being shat on at all - I'm not poor, malnourished or racist so care not a jot, as I said, just intrigued by the utter contradictions between your political views and subsequent arguments.

If you could describe explicitly what you think is contradictory I'll happily discuss it.

 

[Scouse]

Pine Martin reintroduction to boost red squirrel populations?

 

[Job]

The only difference between middle class and working class food is the package the former to give the impression its 'healthier'...90% of it is shite wirh organic or natural on the front and tied to some advertising campaign showing some middle class twerp playing squash.

 

[Scouse]

The only difference between middle class and working class food is the package the former to give the impression its 'healthier'...

I think healthy food doesn't come in a package. It's either unprocessed vegetables or unprocessed meat, and easily identifiable as such.

If it comes in a "package" then I hesistate to call it food. Poshness of the packaging doesn't make a difference to me. I ain't buying it.

 

[BloodOmen]

 

[fettoken]

Ew.

 

[Job]

So Britain First has 2 million likes on Facebook.

Russian bots I presume.

 

[BloodOmen]

So Britain First has 2 million likes on Facebook.

Russian bots I presume.

Probably all the kiddie fidlers supporting them, didn't one of them get done recently for something sexual related with a child? hypocrisy at its finest.

 

[Raven]

Anyway, busy place, handful of threads posted in in the last week.

Echochamberforcuntsy2k

Also, @caLLous has still never seen a vagina. Not sure if its his weight or lack of personality but the lad needs help.