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Gwadien

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I like it how Job perceives himself to be a superior member of the working classes.
 

Job

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Yes attack me, while no comment on the mouth breathers in that film.
 

Gwadien

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Yes attack me, while no comment on the mouth breathers in that film.

Yes, attack you, because again, you're getting a minority of a group and applying something to the wider group, and it's boring as shit.

My Dad is an avid football fan, he goes to England away and home, he says that the proper England fans - IE the ones that paid to go to South Africa and other further away places are fine, no cunts what-so-ever, and don't say it's a financial thing - many of the people in my dads group do 'regular' jobs, and ages range from 18-60.

The cunts are the ones who will go to France, because it's cheap, and they're not proper football fans, they're the dickheads, but they're still a minority, and they'll still make Daily Mail headlines - AHHH MORAL PANIC AHHHHHHH!

If you posted 'Ah, lovely hooligans' i'd probably sympathise, but you posted 'Ah, lovely football fans' and you're pretty much tarnishing me with that same brush.

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Job

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In paid entry events yes, but I'm hardly claiming every football fan is like that, though many are and it's a lot more than a minority when trouble is stirred, mob rule takes over as in that film and normally decent people come over all hard as nails from the safety of the police line.
Football almost entirely attracts these types..so I'm going to call them football fans.
 

DaGaffer

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Yes attack me, while no comment on the mouth breathers in that film.

All in the edit. I have a long and jaundiced personal experience of football policing (and other "crowd management"), going back to the 80s, so I'm not going to take any video at face value, but I tend to find locking large groups of people into a small area for extended periods tends to bring out the worst in people.
 

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All in the edit. I have a long and jaundiced personal experience of football policing (and other "crowd management"), going back to the 80s, so I'm not going to take any video at face value, but I tend to find locking large groups of people into a small area for extended periods tends to bring out the worst in people.
Kettleing would make me mad i hate gettng confined. Let alone with hundreds of others
 

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Yes attack me, while no comment on the mouth breathers in that film.
As usual you're making out that the mouth breathers in that film are representative of the majority, but it simply isn't true.

Been to games at grounds all over the country. Trouble is very rare. But then if you set out to make a documentary about that sort of person, who undoubtedly exists, then you'll find the footage.

It's not representative of anything other than that though - it's your continued wilful misrepresentation that's pissing @Gwadien off.
 

Job

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I felt the anger was more towards each other, that was Newcastle/Sunderland derby!
But still you blame the Police, these people are playing out armchair hardmen over real racism against each other, I'd use cattle prods if I was in charge of Policing.
 

Gwadien

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Never...but they do report the games you know.
How many times have you heard of violence when watching/listening to these 'reports'?

OH WAIT.

I SEE YOUR POINT NOW.

You don't like football fans -> Hillbsborough was the fans fault and they're all animals. I get you now.

Now go tell that to the parents of the kids who died.
 
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Scouse

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So, all your knowledge is 2nd hand at best.

Take it from the reams of experienced people who tell you that the material you choose to wank over (for wank you do - as you seek out and find it constantly as it fits your preferred world view) is utterly unrepresentative.

That goes for most of the stuff you appear to be watching.
 

Job

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So, all your knowledge is 2nd hand at best.

Take it from the reams of experienced people who tell you that the material you choose to wank over (for wank you do - as you seek out and find it constantly as it fits your preferred world view) is utterly unrepresentative.

That goes for most of the stuff you appear to be watching.
That is on the front page of Reddit, got about 3000 replies, mostly from Americans saying what the living fuck is going on in England?
They obviously have plenty of violence, but this kind of mob aggression is practically unheard of at sporting events, probably because it would escalate quickly to guns going off.
 

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That is on the front page of Reddit, got about 3000 replies, mostly from Americans saying what the living fuck is going on in England?

So, people with no experience - just like you...
this kind of mob aggression is practically unheard of at sporting events
As it is in the UK nowadays.


You freely admit you know nothing, watch films and think that's how it is, then come online and tell people who regularly attend matches that you know better than them.

And people say that I'm arrogant. :rolleyes:
 

DaGaffer

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That is on the front page of Reddit, got about 3000 replies, mostly from Americans saying what the living fuck is going on in England?
They obviously have plenty of violence, but this kind of mob aggression is practically unheard of at sporting events, probably because it would escalate quickly to guns going off.

So people who don't know what they're looking at commenting to other people who don't know what they're looking at means football fans are all animals. Riiight.

Oh look, all American football fans must be animals!

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwARoYzXnLk
 

DaGaffer

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But but but

They just said so long as you leave your sins at the door you can get into heaven.

IE, you can be gay all your life and have lots and lots of bumming, but so long as you say 'sorry' on your deathbed, you're fine, right?

Works for the Catholics.
 

Job

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So, people with no experience - just like you...

As it is in the UK nowadays.


You freely admit you know nothing, watch films and think that's how it is, then come online and tell people who regularly attend matches that you know better than them.

And people say that I'm arrogant. :rolleyes:
Sure enough it has dropped off hugely, in fact I thought it was all but gone on the 2000's, was surprised to see that in 2012.
What has been done, is it a major cultural shift...stadiums clamping down or have they moved their aggression elsewhere.
 

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...about 3000 replies, mostly from Americans saying what the living fuck is going on in England?.
For what it's worth that's complete rubbish. It was rubbish last night when I saw the thread in question and it's still rubbish now as replies get up/downvoted. The top comments are explaining what's going on (Newcastle/Sunderland derby), an American asking what "relegated" means (bless him), people praising the editing and camera work and the job that the police do on match days. This is one of the most hotly contested (if not the most hotly contested) derbies in all of English football and the video does a great job of conveying that.
 

Job

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I'm not understanding what you are pointing rubbish at, and that link pretty well describes the feeling.
TBH,I thought the film was edited to give more menace than was there by dubbing aggressive chanting over simple horseplay.
It cherry picked mob behaviour, but there were plenty of cherries.
 

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Hooligans.

Facebook

Edit - I still don't know how to embed facebook videos properly :(

Same way you embed any other video. Normally on facebook links you see this

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click where it says video then just copy the url from address bar, tis all I do.
 

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My friends husband is in Orlando taking part in the Invictus Games and has just won gold in the rowing!!!
 

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