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[Gwadien]

You mean like the big list of known Carcinogens we already have. That have been proven to damage cells sufficiently to cause cancer...

Jeez you're retarded.

I saw the edit

 

[Gwadien]

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU GUYS BUT NOTHING IS MORE ANTI-ISLAM THAN THOSE FISH IN THAT LAKE IN BRISTOL, THEY'RE SO PRO AMERICA AND HATES ALL MUSLIMS, BOY SOMEONE SHOULD SORT THEM OUT



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-35134740

 

[Raven]

Retards be retards.

 

[Job]

You mean like the big list of known [URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_IARC_Group_1_carcinogens']Carcinogens[/url] we already have. That have been proven to damage cells sufficiently to cause cancer...

Jeez you're retarded.

They are not real carcigens...just things that cause cancer in ludicrous doses given to laboratory animals that have been engineered to mutate, everything is a carcigen given enough dose and enough weakened defenses, thats all they do, there is no understood breakdown of exposure to mutation...they just throw huge amounts until something happens.

Cells die, fuk up , go out of control constantly in your body...the 'carcigen' is just another chance of the string of unfortunate events towards a tumour.

 

[Access Denied]

Per the whole smoking and Cancer thing. It's all swings and roundabouts as far as I'm concerned. In my opinion, someone who lives in a city and doesn't smoke, breathes in just as much, if not more in the way or carcinogens than someone who lives in the countryside and smokes 80 a day. I don't doubt that smoking vastly increases your chances of getting various diseases but in these days, for the great many of us, it makes no difference if we smoke or not. There was a study I can't be arsed to find the link for that showed there is a genetic flaw in some people that makes them more susceptible to Cancer. Short of basing who you procreate with based on their genetic predsiposition to Cancer risk (Or lack thereof) it's pot luck.

Edit: For example: My aunt did, in fact smoke 80 a day and never had a days real illness in her life. She died of old age at 87.

 

[Job]

Well we've argued this one out, I stick by the first study, partly because it goes against the hippy, conspiracy bullshit theory.

 

[Job]

Just downloaded freeadblock browser for Android, not sure what they're using my info for to make it free, but it is the dogs boloks..fast..smooth..block 95% of ads and lets you click one button to save all the readable txt in folders or view in white on black so you dont keep the missus awake.

 

[Gwadien]

http://www.theguardian.com/higher-e...have-paid-9000-and-now-they-think-they-own-me

 

[Raven]

Spoiled, upper middle class brats thinking they are owed a degree.

Whatever next?!

 

[Job]

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[Gwadien]

Spoiled, upper middle class brats thinking they are owed a degree.

Whatever next?!

If anything, it's more the working class brats thinking they are owed a degree.

It's not a criticism of the students though, it's a criticism of the system which the Tories brought on.

 

[Raven]

haha, no

I would say its more the fault of the absolute inclusion bullshit that labour brought in. "You can be anything, even though you are as dumb as a box of tampons!"

Edit...well not maybe dumb but better suited to a more manual profession, rather than media studies.

 

[Gwadien]

haha, no

I would say its more the fault of the absolute inclusion bullshit that labour brought in. "You can be anything, even though you are as dumb as a box of tampons!"

Edit...well not maybe dumb but better suited to a more manual profession, rather than media studies.

You are such a Tory through and through.

It's got nothing to do with that all, lecturers criticised the raising of fees for this exact reason.

Raising fees has done nothing but bad things for the Country as a whole, it's saved very little money, and is edging us closer to a country that 'doesn't do things'

Normal countries have their universities subsidised by the State, so as a result, they're usually more academically focused.

As a result of raising fees in the UK, Universities have become businesses, hence why people treat them in the way that they do.

In addition to this, it doesn't save the Government any money anyway, because as they recently found out, the system they currently run doesn't work, as they still have ridiculous amounts of debt.

Whether you like it or not, the system before was better, even with the Media students, because it meant that the Universities would get money from a course which isn't exactly academically respected, and as a result the funding would be focused onto something different, as opposed to building new pointless buildings for Chinese students, it's ridiculous.

Education in the UK is being murdered, at all levels.

 

[Raven]

You pay back an absolutely tiny amount based on what you earn, most of it gets written off.

People keep banging on about free degrees in other countries, which is bollocks, higher taxation pays for it, so one way or another, everyone pays for it.

Much fairer in the UK, if your degree leads to a high income job, you pay for it. If your degree leads to stacking shelves at Tesco, the state pays for it. What can be more fair than that?

Also, surely its better if shit, pointless degrees get fucked off?

Some people need to understand that they are probably better off doing an apprenticeship or "other" training in something useful than getting a media degree and then stacking shelves.

 

[Gwadien]

You pay back an absolutely tiny amount based on what you earn, most of it gets written off.

People keep banging on about free degrees in other countries, which is bollocks, higher taxation pays for it, so one way or another, everyone pays for it.

Much fairer in the UK, if your degree leads to a high income job, you pay for it. If your degree leads to stacking shelves at Tesco, the state pays for it. What can be more fair than that?

Also, surely its better if shit, pointless degrees get fucked off?

Some people need to understand that they are probably better off doing an apprenticeship or "other" training in something useful than getting a media degree and then stacking shelves.

I'm not talking about shit degrees though, I'm talking about education in general, its been commercialised, and it's awful, 'we don't make anything' soon it'll be 'we don't think anything' we just export it into Cambridge/Oxford & US Universities whilst we become a factory education system churning out Chinese kids to send back home with our bog standard education then the hyper-inflated worth of the UK university degree will eventually burst and we'll be the laughing stock of the world.

 

[Moriath]

You are such a Tory through and through.

It's got nothing to do with that all, lecturers criticised the raising of fees for this exact reason.

Raising fees has done nothing but bad things for the Country as a whole, it's saved very little money, and is edging us closer to a country that 'doesn't do things'

Normal countries have their universities subsidised by the State, so as a result, they're usually more academically focused.

As a result of raising fees in the UK, Universities have become businesses, hence why people treat them in the way that they do.

In addition to this, it doesn't save the Government any money anyway, because as they recently found out, the system they currently run doesn't work, as they still have ridiculous amounts of debt.

Whether you like it or not, the system before was better, even with the Media students, because it meant that the Universities would get money from a course which isn't exactly academically respected, and as a result the funding would be focused onto something different, as opposed to building new pointless buildings for Chinese students, it's ridiculous.

Education in the UK is being murdered, at all levels.

Who bought in fees in the first place? In 1997 i was still getting grants. By 2007 it was fees. So i guess that was labour?

 

[Gwadien]

Who bought in fees in the first place? In 1997 i was still getting grants. By 2007 it was fees. So i guess that was labour?

Yes, it was Labour.

I'm not making a political point here, but still...

Fees initially plugged up a massive hole, but it still allowed the Government some say in Universities, since they put a great deal of money towards it.. (Fees increasing was meant to cover the Government pulling out, so old system student = £3k Government = £6k) but it varied alot, and there's been arguments that the Unis make more money in the current system than they did in the old one.

The problem now is that the Government has more or less completely pulled out, meaning they have little voice, and allow the Universities to play freely, for Universities which have a bit of prestige, it means they can stick on their current course and be a powerhouse of education - Cambridge/Oxford/LSE/StAndrews etc etc.

As for the lesser universities there's less research, and although that it is the Universities mentioned before which do a lot of research, the 'lesser' universities also do contribute, but in the current system, that will steadily decrease, since they're focusing to be more like businesses - you churn out students and you take their money. GG.

As that article said, most Lecturers have to lecture AND then release papers, I can see that coming to a halt in the future, meaning that they'll no longer be academics, they'll just be career lecturers.

I mean, in the grand scheme of things, it's fine, for sure, because the economics of it means that Universities will generate more cash than ever before.

However, in my completely untrained point of view, it's just a course for disaster; we're investing billions into new buildings to attract foreign students to come and give us money straight up, however, why do these students come here? - The prestige of British universities, but once the vast majority of Universities stop being 'research' universities, the worth of British education will stagnate and possibly fall off, meaning that there will be a greater distinction between 'Polytechnic' (if you will) and 'classical' Universities.

It's pretty interesting, because my University is awful for this, Nottingham Trent University is one of the biggest in the UK, and is one of the best performing 'former polys' - problem is that they're going down the route which I have explained, resulting in it being the best of the worst, which is pointless, but in it's current state, it's competing with some of the more classical Universities.

Edit - If you read this properly, you'll see that it isn't a post about a student having a knee-jerk reaction to being charged £9k a year, because as Raven said, it's fuck all really, it's more of a concern for the long-run of our pride and joy of being a leader in academia.

 

[Raven]

Frankly, we still are. All the "proper" degrees are subsidised by the shit degrees.

Its probably not fair but if clinically stupid people think they are entitled to a degree then so be it.

 

[Gwadien]

Frankly, we still are. All the "proper" degrees are subsidised by the shit degrees.

Its probably not fair but if clinically stupid people think they are entitled to a degree then so be it.

Missing the point again.

 

[Job]

just bought a windows/android 10 inch tablet...quad core 2K screen, win10 and one button os swap, hdmi out, intel gfx, it's fast and very responsive...120 quid ebay.

 

[Zarjazz]

just bought a windows/android 10 inch tablet...quad core 2K screen, win10 and one button os swap, hdmi out, intel gfx, it's fast and very responsive...120 quid ebay.

But does it give you cancer?

 

[Edmond]

Can you watch cam's on it?

 

[Gwadien]

Does it have a direct Britain First feed?

 

[Raven]

I bet it was made by brown people...or maybe yellow.

 

[Gwadien]

John Boyega might just be the best person to become famous, ever.

 

[Raven]

For that marketing skit?

Warner Brothers were quick to talk about it.

 

[Gwadien]

For that marketing skit?

Warner Brothers were quick to talk about it.

His general persona.

He's just a pretty cool guy. - Watch him on Graham Norton

 

[Raven]

I will admit, he was one of the only ones to actually play properly, him and Willian, the rest arseholes.

Edit, can't watch Graham Norton, he makes me want to strangle myself with my own penis.

 

[Gwadien]

I will admit, he was one of the only ones to actually play properly, him and Willian, the rest arseholes.

Edit, can't watch Graham Norton, he makes me want to strangle myself with my own penis.

Just came across as a proper English lad, he wasn't full of himself, and he was full of typical British humour, top bants.

 

[soze]

So I have been reading about this guy Tom Crawford. It sounds like in 1988 he signed up for an Interest only Mortgage (he has shown the document on camera saying it is an Endowment Interest only) with an Endowment meant to pay off the rest of the mortgage. He then stopped paying the Endowment part after a couple of months, so carried on with an Interest only Mortgage for 25 years. Now he did pay more than enough on the Interest only side to pay of the Mortgage. But because it was interest only the bank decided to evict him after he refused / could not afford to buy the house now into his 60's. I do not want to get into the rights and wrongs of this kind of Mortgage, or the con that is a 25 year interest only Mortgage. But something worth mentioning from the court case is that twice he was approached and advised he should change to a repayment mortgage and twice he refused. So to me this is a case of him being informed but maybe not understanding or he just though he would chance it?

But the part I found amazing is the support this guy managed to gather over Social Media, he had people fighting the police because they thought he was being evicted illegally. And 2 evictions were called off due to the amount of people who showed up to stop the Bailiffs and Police. In the end it took 150 riot cops and 50 bailiffs and an operation that cost in the 100s of thousands to evict this guy all because of Social Media. Looking back at it now it is clear this guy either just lied or has no clue about mortgages but the bank (legally), police, bailiffs and court did nothing wrong yet 400 people still showed up and risked arrest to help this guy. I liked the fact that given the information they had some of these people (ignoring the pricks that show up looking for a fight) would risk this for a total stranger. I was also slightly shocked at how easy these people were tricked into risking all this for a guy was was either intentionally or accidentally misleading them.