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[Bodhi]

What's a food Bank? Free food for the poor and needy?

Yep, sounds a terrible idea doesn't it.

http://www.norden.org/en/news-and-e...a-big-unused-potential-to-minimize-food-waste

So food gets used instead of wasted, and people who would have otherwise gone hungry get something to eat. That sounds like a win win to me personally.

Scouse, I notice you ignored my point about them being far from a British thing, and ignored the fact that they've sprung up all over Scandinavia too - y'know the countries you wish we were more like.

 

[Scouse]

Scouse, I notice you ignored my point about them being far from a British thing

Bodhi predictably points at other places in the world and says "it's not just us" shocker.

Your ridiculous fatalism aside Bodhs old bean, it clearly doesn't have to be like that.

 

[Bodhi]

Bodhi predictably points at other places in the world and says "it's not just us" shocker.

Your ridiculous fatalism aside Bodhs old bean, it clearly doesn't have to be like that.

You started bleating on like a broken record about how awful British Society was - and if this was the case, the UK is the only place they would appear, but they don't.

It doesn't have to be like that no, but as I currently see two approaches in the world - food banks or let them starve, so I'd say we've probably picked the better option of the two.

So please enlighten us comrade, what would you do?

 

[Scouse]

I currently see two approaches in the world

Your fail, not mine. But as the conversation is going the way it always goes with you, what's the point?

 

[Bodhi]

Your fail, not mine. But as the conversation is going the way it always goes with you, what's the point?

Wow, for all your bluster you really don't like debate do you? Normally a sure sign of an intellectual midget, but I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt and guess you're busy or something.

So I will ask you again. What approach would you take to food banks?

I look forward to a reasoned answer, although if you can't manage that a Facepalm or one of your usual evasive sneering replies will do.

Take as much time as you need.

 

[Scouse]

you really don't like debate

I love debate. With people who can grasp the intellectual concept that there are alternative solutions to problems without resorting to sneering derision.

But enjoy your facepalm and your unshakable, but misplaced, feeling of superiority

 

[Bodhi]

I love debate. With people who can grasp the intellectual concept that there are alternative solutions to problems without resorting to sneering derision.

Your last point is basically "I'm rubber, you're glue". But nice try.

However I kind of assumed you would have an alternative solution as you don't seem to be in favour of either of the existing ways of doing things, so I will ask, yet again - What would your solution be?

As judging by your reticence to answer the very simple question put in front of you, i am not convinced you have one. You can feel free to prove me wrong however.

 

[Scouse]

Simply can't be arsed m8. But here's a shocker - I'd keep capitalism.

 

[DaGaffer]

You started bleating on like a broken record about how awful British Society was - and if this was the case, the UK is the only place they would appear, but they don't.

It doesn't have to be like that no, but as I currently see two approaches in the world - food banks or let them starve, so I'd say we've probably picked the better option of the two.

So please enlighten us comrade, what would you do?

Except there are clearly many and varied ways to feed the population without relying on Food banks, which are basically charitable donations. This isn't the 1930s for FFS. The social welfare system is perfectly capable of providing subsidies to feed everyone. The mechanics can be via food stamps/pre-pay cards if necessary (don't want the Poors spending it all on booze and fags eh what?), but there's plenty of food in the system to make it happen. Of course that might mean an extra tenth of a penny of income tax doesn't get spent on Think Tanks into how to make poor people feel worse about themselves, but hey, sacrifices have to be made right?

NB. My Missus did a load of strategy work for a foodbank last year; mainly a new process for actually getting the food in from supermarkets and suppliers. Trust me, food banks are not statistically an answer to wasting food, not by a long shot. Several very large supermarket chains simply dump everything in landfill citing potential health risks, which are entirely bullshit, and simply driven by supply chain costs (its "cheaper" to dump than allow a food bank to pick up, which is mind boggling, but a function of the tax system), and this is also despite mealy-mouthed corporate social responsibility "targets" which are just there to look good on the Annual Report. The reality is the likes of *l** and L**l don't want poor people getting their cheap food in a food bank, they'd rather they spend the money they don't have with them thank you very much. Well fine, get the tax system to give them some money to do so.

 

[Bodhi]

Can't say I'd be too opposed to the food stamps approach (even if it is a bit WW2 Rationing, so 1940's rather than 1930's), if they can avoid them being sold to buy fags, booze etc (which would happen in my experience) then I don;t see too much of an issue with it.

 

[Moriath]

@Gwadien not just employed people who go to food banks. Unemployed do too. So having the jobbie guy there sounds sensible.

 

[Bodhi]

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...nd-they-are-not-responding-well-a6710721.html

I know where I'm going next time I'm in Dublin and need a bite to eat.....

 

[Moriath]

Best beef sandwich i had in a long time. Full of beef and no tubes or fat.

 

[fettoken]

Are those chips on the side @Moriath ?

 

[Bodhi]

All that green stuff is taking up room that could be used for either more meat or some chips.

 

[Raven]

I still don't understand where you get these tubes from...do you buy your meat from the pound shop?

 

[Moriath]

Are those chips on the side @Moriath ?

Crisps salad and coleslaw.

 

[Moriath]

I still don't understand where you get these tubes from...do you buy your meat from the pound shop?

They are veins that carry blood and entirely natural. I dont buy beef with them in. Cause it grosses me out hehe.

 

[caLLous]

Cut into quarters? Are you 8?

 

[old.user4556]

Cut into quarters? Are you 8?

You're only as young as the girl you're poking.

What.

 

[CorNokZ]

Sorry, but that sandwich looks boring af! Whitest bread possible, a hint of what looks like mustard(good) and then just a bunch of dry meat.. At least the salad and coleslaw looks good

 

[Job]

To be honest, for me that's more a damning indictment of the Job Centres themselves - I remember when I was first unemployed, circa 2005 ish, the Job Centre was actually a really useful resource in terms of getting a job - they had a good job appointments system, and the people who worked there were generally useful at helping people get a job, or even getting a better job if they wished. Then fast forward to 2009 when I next had to sign on, it had changed completely - grumpy staff, generally feckless, always arsey with you if you hadn't found anything, but no apparent will to actually help you get into work. Luckily I found something a week later, but it was no thanks to the morons in the Job Centre.

It needs to be what it says on the tin - a Job Centre, not a Benefits Office. If It was more like a state run Recruitment Agency (without the glorified sales people in shiny suits) they would be a damn sight more helpful for people who want to get on in life.

As for Food Banks, well if you want a stick to beat the government with feel free, however I don't think their existance is in any way a bad reflection on modern society - in fact I think the complete opposite. People have always gone hungry (although the number in the UK has been falling steadily for 7 years or so), however now society has found a way to use food that would otherwise have been wasted, and ensure those in need don't go hungry. I'm failing to see how they are a bad thing to be fair. I mean even the caring, sharing, "oh wouldn't you love us to be just like them" Scandinavians have them so they are far from just a feature of like in the UK.

But then if you look on them as a good thing then the opportunity for political point scoring is reduced, and it would give the monkeys they have attempting to run the country North of the border one less chip on their shoulder.

It would be great if we could give everyone enough money not to have to go hungry, but in the real world, that just ain't going to happen.

Being a right wing kinda guy, if I hadn't experienced myself, I wouldn't believe it, job centres are beyond useless, they are simply a politicised front for benefit claiming the staff ranged from incompetent to dispicable, no wonder they have 'bouncers' on every floor, not because the clients are naturally aggressive, it's because the staff treat everyone like they found them stuck to their shoe.

 

[Zarjazz]

Being a right wing kinda guy

Kinda ?

 

[Job]

Yes kinda between Hitler and Polpot.

Anyway, working in south Liverpool today and four different trade shops were full of cockneys!

It was awesome, old schoolers, sounding like Ray Winston asking for everything in inch an harf.

Got to be the Universities, they are building to the skies, I went there maybe 8 months ago and there are six new high rise uni departments nearly finished since then.
Biosciences, veterinary, medical, robotics...holy crap your student loans well spent...pity it's all useless.

 

[Moriath]

Was how it

Cut into quarters? Are you 8?

was delivered.

 

[Moriath]

Sorry, but that sandwich looks boring af! Whitest bread possible, a hint of what looks like mustard(good) and then just a bunch of dry meat.. At least the salad and coleslaw looks good

Meat wasnt dry and had a goodly amount of horseradish. Yummy

 

[Tom]

So how many rounds of bread does Moriath have @Trem ?

 

[Scouse]

I know where I'm going next time I'm in Dublin and need a bite to eat.....

Lulz

Bet the food is kinda average tho. Maybe the 3* average review will balance out?

 

[Scouse]

Are those chips on the side @Moriath ?

Crisps, man, crisps.

There also seems to be a lack of mustard on that beef. Other than that I approve*.





*but bread could be more interesting.

 

[Moriath]

Crisps, man, crisps.

There also seems to be a lack of mustard on that beef. Other than that I approve*.





*but bread could be more interesting.

I chose the white they had an alternative. Bread was my preference hehe. Horseraddish. Not mustard tard