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Scouse

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So if there's anything there you disagree with, feel free to ask/discuss it.
I strongly disagree that you're capable of analysing numbers correctly and I'm disgusted that you think the absolute figures in any way skew the seriousness of the issue.
 

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Yes i am ;) But now that you lot are moving away from the bullsh*t, let me reply in kind;

If we really look at the stats(on guardian site mind you) then they become pretty similar race wise(small percentage changes don't make a huge outcry), and i don't care about "per capita" sh*t as it skews the truth. Just look at the hard facts such as these people did this, these that. Seems to me criminals are getting treated pretty much the same, regardless of race, outside racist cops which ofcourse exist in a partly racist world. Derp.

But to answer your original;

413 people out of 470 were shot. 230 had a firearm(+70 with a knife). So at a stretch there's still 113 deaths by gunshot that had no weapon involved. So yes, there's a problem, but it's still just 113. This is a large number for sure, but when put into context it doesn't make US cops triggerhappy/racist.

Should they use less guns? Ofcourse. Do they have a more violent nation? Most likely. Is it a "shocking thing"? F*ck no.

So if there's anything there you disagree with, feel free to ask/discuss it. Otherwise, off to get annoyed at hearthstone :p

What the absolute fuck? Per capita is the only way to compare like for like. Blacks make up 13% of the US population but 30% of the people killed this year, and they were less, not more, likely to have a weapon than whites, and chances are if they survive their arrest they're more likely to go to jail and they're more likely to go to jail for longer for the same offence than a white person. But its not a racist justice system, oh no, and you'd be a fool and a communist to suggest otherwise. You're such a fucking idiot.
 

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In this case they are also both right.

To put it simply, if you are black then statistically you are more likely to go to jail for longer than a white person for the same crime.

Statistically, black people are also more likely to get shot than a white person in the same situation.

Statistically, black people are less likely to be carrying a weapon than a white person

Those are the facts. The American justice system is racist. That's not to say your average cop is a cross burning, cowl wearing KKK member but the system is racist.
 

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Quite. As said, my post was just about the deaths this year(as per guardian article). Never said the system isn't f*cked in general.

I thought we were talking about @DaGaffer and his original post tbh.
 

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And that's the only argument i'm getting involved in this month, enjoy. (not that the opinions presented here are fake, just more confrontational to satisfy the status quo needs of some people :p)

Back to being argreeable and nice.
 

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He's black.
 

Job

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Just..watched..San ..Andreas.
I don't have the vocabulary to describe what I just saw, obviously cgi off the richter scale, I think you could sum up the entire movie with a crying baby and then you give it a dummy and it stops.
They added 2 hours of cheese, then edited everything else out.
The daughters tits are superb...bouncy bouncy.
 

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Why do you watch such crap releases of movies? If you're going to steal it at least wait for a screener or a Blu-ray rip.
 

Raven

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Well he is stuck in the 80s so maybe VHS quality is his thing?
 

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Why do you watch such crap releases of movies? If you're going to steal it at least wait for a screener or a Blu-ray rip.

Cos me projector is between homes, we only have a 32inch telly and I watch them on my phone in bed, and its a very good cam...and you know what, I like cams because you hear the audience reaction...and I'm sure that will be the next big thing in movies...virtual theatres..complete with kids kicking the back of your seat.
I've built a conservatory on the back of the house and the wall against a fence I have made solid ' painted with screen paint and voila, semi outdoor theater.
 

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I like it when people walk in front of the action too, I live for cams that have someone's head in the corner.
 

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And the badly cropped picture that is never just right no matter how much perspective jiggery pokery they apply before they release it. Workprints and telesyncs are one thing but cams are and will always be shit.
 

old.Tohtori

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Job does have a point there. Wth VR kits and better quality "cams" you can have that movietheatre experience. With the added bonus of pausing life to take a piss :p
 

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Job does have a point there. Wth VR kits and better quality "cams" you can have that movietheatre experience. With the added bonus of pausing life to take a piss :p
But thats just like watching a comedy filmed infront of an audience and tbh it always feels so fake hehe
 

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But thats just like watching a comedy filmed infront of an audience and tbh it always feels so fake hehe

Hmm, might be a culture thing here again. In finland anyone talking during a movie(wich i've seen maybe twice during my life) will get promptly shushed or thrown out. People do laugh and "ooh!" in horrorfilms, and all those emotional non-control reactions, but they tend to respect the silence.

Is the UK more towards the US in this regard? Or rather, towards the US potrayed in films/tv.
 

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Me and a pal decided to give Smiths of Smithfield a visit after work. It's a restaurant opposite a meat market. It apparently has an impressive rep...

Oh dear. Very disappointing. Thought the menu would be more exciting. Maybe some rabbit or chicken. Maybe a pigeon ballotine. Nope. Steak, shepherds pie, and BBQ ribs. Service was cold and bare bones. TBH I've cooked a better steak at home. Will not be going back.

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Me and a pal decided to give Smiths of Smithfield a visit after work. It's a restaurant opposite a meat market. It apparently has an impressive rep...

Oh dear. Very disappointing. Thought the menu would be more exciting. Maybe some rabbit or chicken. Maybe a pigeon ballotine. Nope. Steak, shepherds pie, and BBQ ribs. Service was cold and bare bones. TBH I've cooked a better steak at home. Will not be going back.

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Should have told them to remove the service charge if it was crap
 

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Hmm, might be a culture thing here again. In finland anyone talking during a movie(wich i've seen maybe twice during my life) will get promptly shushed or thrown out. People do laugh and "ooh!" in horrorfilms, and all those emotional non-control reactions, but they tend to respect the silence.

Is the UK more towards the US in this regard? Or rather, towards the US potrayed in films/tv.
US portrayed in films/tv don't really represent US in real life. I've only been at a few movies over here, but there's no more disturbance here then it was in Sweden. More people crying (Spock/Kirk "death scene" in Star Trek reboot) but no cell phones or talking so far. Chairs are a lot wider and a lot more uncomfortable though.

As for cams - :rolleyes:
If it's not a 720 HD rip or better it's just not worth my time (Unless it's some old rare stuff just not available in higher quality).
 

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Thanks for the culture tidbits for the day, interesting to see how some things are still handled the same (even if that wasn't the point of the post, bring on VR cinemas :p)
 

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Me and a pal decided to give Smiths of Smithfield a visit after work. It's a restaurant opposite a meat market. It apparently has an impressive rep...

Oh dear. Very disappointing. Thought the menu would be more exciting. Maybe some rabbit or chicken. Maybe a pigeon ballotine. Nope. Steak, shepherds pie, and BBQ ribs. Service was cold and bare bones. TBH I've cooked a better steak at home. Will not be going back.

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Haven't been to Smiths for years, but it used to be pretty good. Menu depended on which floor you were on though.
 

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