This shit is out of control

Gumbo

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Nah, Estate Agents are even more hated than terrorists. It's likely that was the intended target :p
 

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Our club was nearly evacuated on Saturday because they found two suspicious packages in the cinema next door... turned out two guys ran outside fighting and forget their suspicious looking rucksacks...

I see they've found a 'suspicious' package at Stansted now...
 

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I don't think that's what Throd was saying. It's just uber unlikely for anyone to get racist abuse in London, compared to small towns, because racial diversity is the norm, and has been for so long that it's not an issue. Okay, maybe if she's completely burkhafied then maybe a few stray comments, but I really can't see a problem for her as is.

Like hell it isn't. London is racist as hell. And it's always white council estate scum, africans or eastern Europeans. racist as fuck. And ignorant to go with it.

What I love about people who consider themselves more English than anyone else is the fact that they are usually the people that would make the world a better place by dying.
 

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Like hell it isn't. London is racist as hell. And it's always white council estate scum, africans or eastern Europeans. racist as fuck. And ignorant to go with it.

What I love about people who consider themselves more English than anyone else is the fact that they are usually the people that would make the world a better place by dying.

That makes no sense at all.

And if you're saying London is racist, yeah you may be right, but mostly because Im most likely to get robbed by non-english speaking people.

Or are you suggesting that racism is confined to (that dying breed) white English people?
 

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Nope, I am saying that those groups tend to be the worse for being rascist in London.

The second line was reserved to council estate scum, theiving, benefit seeking wankers.
 

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i had my bag checked on the train today. also, wasn't die hard 2 supposed to be on itv tonight?! they've gone and put cliffhanger on instead, i can only assume because die hard 2 has an airporty bomb theme to it
 

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Nope, I am saying that those groups tend to be the worse for being rascist in London.

The second line was reserved to council estate scum, theiving, benefit seeking wankers.

What groups??
 

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I think he means the average 'bald bloke in pub with belly and tats who sees immigrants as nicking our jobs mate'.

Its funny really, one of my best mate's dad is Irish, and hes always talking about the 'bloody pakis' down the road. The funny thing is that he doesn't hate them, to him they're just a bunch of people who have their ways, just as Irish people like him have theirs. Hes a proper salt of the earth man as well, worked hard all his life, has a nice house to show for it, lots of friends both 'paki' and Irish, and is possibly the person I have the greatest respect for of anyone I know.

Lots of people express racist views - however they're just talk IMO. The ones to watch out for aren't the ones that laugh at Bernard Manning or the ones who say paki or pikey or chinky, the ones to watch are those who stir up trouble and hate anyone because of their lack of intelligence and fear of the unknown.
 

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I say pikey :p Thats because they're scum though.

The comment is not explained properly imo.

I wonder if, at the end of the day, people will go on about excuses, religion and what have you, but deep down its the colour of thier skin thats the issue. What about if all the reviled "racists" are actually right? Fucking scarey if you ask me. I wonder if our country has not "educated" itself out of racism for the most part, only to not understand that the people they think they "oppress" are just as racist as we used to be.

MY views may already be known on here. I suspect Islam is the end of the fucking world, and may need to be removed from this country. I suspect that "moderate" muslims - some of them my friends - would sooner go against everything this country is rather than disagree with thier own religion.
 

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I think he means the average 'bald bloke in pub with belly and tats who sees immigrants as nicking our jobs mate'.

Its funny really, one of my best mate's dad is Irish, and hes always talking about the 'bloody pakis' down the road. The funny thing is that he doesn't hate them, to him they're just a bunch of people who have their ways, just as Irish people like him have theirs. Hes a proper salt of the earth man as well, worked hard all his life, has a nice house to show for it, lots of friends both 'paki' and Irish, and is possibly the person I have the greatest respect for of anyone I know.

Lots of people express racist views - however they're just talk IMO. The ones to watch out for aren't the ones that laugh at Bernard Manning or the ones who say paki or pikey or chinky, the ones to watch are those who stir up trouble and hate anyone because of their lack of intelligence and fear of the unknown.


Quite alot more people turning up in the pubs these days with that sorta view tho. Got a skinhead mate who's a die-hard member of SHARP, setup the local UAF and the like, and even he agrees racism is getting worse. Too many unhappy stupid people in this world.

And theres nothing wrong with white people dissapearing. At the end of the day we're all people, no matter the skin colour.

(however i personally believe that most white people are moving out of the country due to the bloody outrageous tax that everyones forced to pay. Big money out there in the world for those trained properly.)
 

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This whole thing stinks to me, one day after Brown becomes MP two very amateurish terrorist attacks. If the details are correct there's some blatant faults in them.

- The cars bombs were parked illegally, and didn't explode.
- The Jeep couldn't fit through the airport doors, and didn't explode.
- The 'terrorists' were doctors (and didn't explode).

Now maybe i'm not savvy on the terrorist circles but doctors? They're supposed to be intelligent aren't they? This doesn't fit with me, they're in a profession that has the aim to make people better - the very people they hate? Also they're well paid and have a decent future, why sacrifice that?

Either it's a message to Gordon Brown, or it's some "omg conspiraceh!" government ploy. Fear controls people, or even - maybe all the media attention was on brown and his new cabinet. And it's a nice media diversion in case they discovered something juicy!

/sits in the corner and dons his tin foil hat (which doesn't explode)
 

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And theres nothing wrong with white people dissapearing. At the end of the day we're all people, no matter the skin colour.

(however i personally believe that most white people are moving out of the country due to the bloody outrageous tax that everyones forced to pay. Big money out there in the world for those trained properly.)

It does fucking matter mate. This is ENGLAND, this is OUR country. We are very tolerent indeed, but when things are changed to the point that the actual demigraphic of the country is altered, then you cannot but expect a much-deserved backlash.
 

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I think it is coming as well. The backlash that is.

Gotta love the media though, terrorists have infiltrated the NHS :p They forget about the paedos working in the schools around the country.
 

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It does fucking matter mate. This is ENGLAND, this is OUR country. We are very tolerent indeed, but when things are changed to the point that the actual demigraphic of the country is altered, then you cannot but expect a much-deserved backlash.

*cough* BRITAIN *cough*
 

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It does fucking matter mate. This is ENGLAND, this is OUR country. We are very tolerent indeed, but when things are changed to the point that the actual demigraphic of the country is altered, then you cannot but expect a much-deserved backlash.

OUR who? White people from every European country to invade over the centuries? Remember Britain was an Empire, and integrated a lot of countries as colonies. I condsider myself British, I was born in this country and grand parents came over here with colonial passports.

Anyway I think this country should do what the US and Australia do, and make you take oaths and tests for citizenship.
 

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OUR who? White people from every European country to invade over the centuries? Remember Britain was an Empire, and integrated a lot of countries as colonies. I condsider myself British, I was born in this country and grand parents came over here with colonial passports.

Anyway I think this country should do what the US and Australia do, and make you take oaths and tests for citizenship.

I never suggested otherwise. This is one of the great problems with race, lots of people assume they are being discriminated against until proven otherwise ...
Lots of people of Asian descent I know think that there are too many immigrants as well! Chatting to someone the other day, she said where do you live, when I told her she said oh, I wouldnt want to live there, too many immigrants ...
 

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Well there are too many immigrants, we opened the flood gates to refugees. The whole of Europe rejects them, and we take them in.

A smart government would have got involved in the conflicts that created these refugees and helped them to live a decent life in their own countries. But heh, no oil to be had that way. We seem to live in the only country that feels guilt for not acting and then fucks itself in the arse because of it.
 

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I don't think "getting involved" is always the best option but you can certainly deny access to refugees!

I don't think its right to accept every refugee with a plausable story. This country just isnt big or rich enough to deal with that many people.

There are enough domestic problems to deal without adding to them.
 

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Well if we see our selves as a world power then we have a responsibility to get involved, not just pick and chose because someone represents a percieved threat.
 

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Well if we see our selves as a world power then we have a responsibility to get involved, not just pick and chose because someone represents a percieved threat.

There's the problem, actually two problems - we're NOT a world power, and we've been punching above our weight for far too long, and no, we DON'T have a responsibility to get involved everywhere, and actually we SHOULD pick and choose. At the moment is seems to be, "if the US is in, then so are we", in the past British governments have been a lot more circumspect, which is why we never went to Vietnam, despite the US desperately wanting us there (because we'd proved we could win a similar type of war in Malaysia and elsewhere). I'm with Throd, Afghanistan yes, Iraq, no, and even with Afghanistan, the objective should be realistic, the British of all people should know that Afghanistan will never be a happy-clappy democracy, and we should probably break the place up, leave the Pashtun to kill each other off, but quarantine them so they can't get in or out. Harsh, but they're a harsh people.
 

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Erk, this is getting closer to home for me

My local hospital [About 10-15min away] had doctors who were arrested on terrorism charges :eek:

Halton Hospital + News Article

Quite weird having this happen in throwing distance, hope they wasnt the Harold Shipman type of doctors!
 

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When all is said and done.........you just don't fuck with the jocks :D
 

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Glasgow Airport is in Paisley. Quite different from Glasgow in my experience.
 

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airports are named after the closest CITY. Glasgow airport is where all the weegies fly from
 

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