Third ML lines

[Ryuno]

well omg Mentalists got convoker. ML9 sally anyone?

I bet they will nerf ML9 pet now.

 

[duact]

tbh if they implement the nerfed version of banelord I really think these changes aint that bad, for example finally theurgists get a decent ml line, ofc giving warlord to some casters is bad for tanks. Just my first thoughts ;/

 

[Golena]

well omg Mentalists got convoker. ML9 sally anyone?

I bet they will nerf ML9 pet now.

Necro's got convoker... do you see them with ML9 pets.. Don't count your sallies until they hatch

 

[Golena]

for example finally theurgists get a decent ml line

Why on gods name would an rvr theurg spec perfector? I've never once played my theurg and at the start of the fight thought hmm I could pet their healers, but gee I wish I could spend 8 seconds putting a fop down first.

You'd be better off speccing stormlord and banging a DD storm down on inc.

 

[Kagato]

can't you be happy for once?

I'll be happy tomorrow actually when I get Defenders Rage on frontal arc opening.

u wanted perfector then xD ?

Just wanted something a little more interesting actually, not necessarily powerful, but different tools to play with then the usual instant melee bonus crap I use every day already.

 

[>.< Pooned]

ok i can cure my nearsight now? thx? naaaah


/edit mentalists with ml9 orange and red pets? omfg!

 

[Spamb0t]

dont see assassins going sojo really, fz on 15mins timer, and miss mezpoison/poisontrap thingys, i sure wouldnt

 

[Aiteal]

dont see assassins going sojo really, fz on 15mins timer, and miss mezpoison/poisontrap thingys, i sure wouldnt

Yeah
How long have assassins being "omfg nerf FZ'ing" for?
I'll bet 99% still stick with spymaster and they insta mine though

 

[Void959]

Why on gods name would an rvr theurg spec perfector? I've never once played my theurg and at the start of the fight thought hmm I could pet their healers, but gee I wish I could spend 8 seconds putting a fop down first.

You'd be better off speccing stormlord and banging a DD storm down on inc.

I don't think he was talking about FOP... Cure nearsight could be very useful when the clerics are tied up (and also doesn't force them to both spec perfector anymore!), it would certainly be worthwhile holding off your petting for 1 second to cure the sorcs nearsight at the start of a fight for example if the clerics are unable. The rest of the line is mediocre for FGs, but so is convoker, speedwarp being the only really useful thing there.

 

[Coldbeard]

Don't like these changes, doesn't really seem like they have thought this through

 

[rawr]

Well... it's going to be fun to play a solo assassin now with all the Warlord abilities being on pretty much anyone that fights them (1v1 scene especially). A bit ironic for all of the crush SBs about, but I guess they'll all roll Sojourner Vampiirs now anyway ;|
If they want to compete, it will be a toss-up of a crappy timer on FZ for more dps, or speccing higher viper, which means they lose out on other basic stuff (unless they were this playstyle initially anyway).
Of course I doubt the mezz-bot assassin stealth zergers will care too much.
Probably another indirect nerf for Minstrels again too; Battlemaster = good for groups, but I still really doubt they'll make a spot, and Warlord on every wannabe soloer is going to pretty much negate the only thing Minstrels still had going for them, which was high defence on timers.

Probably a bit early to be throwing up the picket signs though

Opinions?

 

[Raimo]

ok i can cure my nearsight now? thx? naaaah


/edit mentalists with ml9 orange and red pets? omfg!

u should be happy tho,their pets cant chase u to the end of the zone.

 

[Konah]

hibs seem to have got the clean end of the stick. mixed bag rly some good, some bad, some insane... hopefully it'll be right by time it goes live.

soj vamp is the standout for me, u gotta laugh uke:

 

[Nosufer]

I wouldn't drop banelord on my vamp for soj, not worth it.

 

[Kagato]

Warlord for hib casters, perfector for alb casters, hurrah for equality.

Having looked at the list properly it does seem a royal fuck up really, they should leave things as they are.

 

[Eyres]

Warlord for hib casters, perfector for alb casters, hurrah for equality.

Having looked at the list properly it does seem a royal fuck up really, they should leave things as they are.

obviously you havnt looked properly at all

 

[xxManiacxx]

yes valk with soj. lets go 50sword and FZ then u can eat 150dd procc in the ass.

 

[Valgyr]

At first i was laughing, but the more i look the better i think it is. So i voted for a good change. Only thing that comes to mind is assasin and archer changes might look OPed but do they want to change there current line?

 

[Puppet]

At first i was laughing, but the more i look the better i think it is. So i voted for a good change. Only thing that comes to mind is assasin and archer changes might look OPed but do they want to change there current line?

I will. Sojourner is almost useless to me nowadays. Nerfed FZ (often not in view; long cooldown timer). Instead on a shorter reuse timer I take 25% less damage. I can scare a frigging SM-pet away every 5 minutes allowing me to actually kill him. I can remove DoT-mine + Viper 3 from me without purging every 2 minutes. And I wont burn as much endo-pets due to that Energizing Bunny Aura.

 

[Meradesh]

Will enjoy Warlord with my ranger

 

[xxManiacxx]

warlord on rangers is stupid

 

[auroria]

this seriously fucks balance up.... fz assasing anyone? even though most will stay spymaster for 5min dotmine its still kinda insane. However this is a really good change for skalds though, who can get battlemaster and will probally get more groups. BG/grapple+decent interupts from before is nice netcode, you happy now!?

feel its quite stupid giving more classes ml9pet, im hoping for a nerf, just as i hope everything will get back to normal!

 

[Fuaip]

Yay, warlord for Archers, cos they dont have enough defence as it is

Scouts really needs it to have a chance vs tanks without adding on fights

 

[Gazon]

I don't like it at first sight but it will shake things up a bit. A chance to try new things.

Ofcourse some stuff will get changed/nerfed along the way, see the BL changes that are already on the table.

 

[Valgyr]

warlord on rangers is stupid

why? cause assasins lose once in a blue moon to the few top notch rangers?
u can always vanish and come back later garrote and come back later if they warguard+battler dump on u. or FZ or mezz if u want to stay spymaster. its a slight archer boost yes. do they need it? yes imo. as it is now with the new CS styles new ws/con debuffs assasins are far ahead again.

 

[xxManiacxx]

why? cause assasins lose once in a blue moon to the few top notch rangers?
u can always vanish and come back later garrote and come back later if they warguard+battler dump on u. or FZ or mezz if u want to stay spymaster. its a slight archer boost yes. do they need it? yes imo. as it is now with the new CS styles new ws/con debuffs assasins are far ahead again.

yes because archers really needed more defence

Ranger with battler+wh+pd+aom+em+warguard and ML7 that is specced melee is not gonna gonna lose to any assassin unless they are really crap.

 

[xxManiacxx]

oh and we can fuck up stealthwars even more with BG on minstrel. Like it wasnt bad enough with minstrel+infil combo.

 

[Gilbride]

so some changes are utterly retarded, some seem "ok", but there's really no need for a 3rd mlline in most cases, they'd be better off making some changes as to what mllines some classes can choose, screw it if 2-3 people total get pissed because they got a better choice of mlline on their char.

as for someone saying both clerics in an albgroup need perfecter, no not really, you can run 1 perf 40enh/35rej, and 1 warlord 40 rej/35enh and still have 2 cure nearsights.

and mostly i'm just laughing at how retarded mythic can be, can they make up their minds on the spelling of perfecter? it's rather retarded to be calling it perfector about 50% of the time on their own site.. consistency! whoever heard of such a thing tho. ingame it's called perfecter, which makes a whole lot more sense than perfector.

 

[Puppet]

yes because archers really needed more defence

Ranger with battler+wh+pd+aom+em+warguard and ML7 that is specced melee is not gonna gonna lose to any assassin unless they are really crap.

Ranger with Battler + WH + PD + AoM + EM + Warguard = RR8+ Ranger or so? To be competative as ranger, you kinda 'need' :

* MoS 3
* IP2
* Purge2 (pref. Purge3 ofc)

That alone is RR5. Then add the PD (atleast 3), AoM (atleast 3) and EM (atleast 2) and we're looking RR8L5 or so ? With no passives at all to enhance offense, I might add.

So thats RR10 if you want some passives to boost your offense. RR10 Assassin can have Viper3, which will still hurt on archers.

 

[Mattsing]

Warlord on my champ, that i like... prefer that befor Banelord tbh.