The World Trade Center has been attacked!!!

[~Mobius~]

RIP.

 

[Sir Frizz]

Originally posted by Krazeh

Oh and i think this really sums up americans - http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/09/09/sept11.lawsuits/

That's what i'm talking about, though i agree with you to an extent krazeh, i don't think 9/11 should be so quickly disregarded regardless of whether it was in America.

I would love it though, for America to build a new skyline, like in Gig G's pic.

 

[PR.]

I remember the day very clearly, I had the week off from work and had set my TV to switch on so that I could watch Quincy at around 2:10pm it came on and there was the credits of neighbours rolling up the screen, I sat back in bed still waking up when the announcer said "We are now going over to BBC News 24 for a news flash" and immediately it cut to a scene of the first tower on fire and the news reporter explaining that what I was seing was a fire inthe world trade centre and I was tutting or something then they said "and a few minutes ago this happened" and the showed the second plane coming about and slamming into the second tower and I just sat up in bed and shouted "holy shit!" and I got the shivers and that kicked off one of the most memorable days of my life (yer I know it sounds corny)

I remember spending the rest of the day running between the news sites on the internet, talking to people on IRC and watching it unfold on TV. Someone I know on IRC lived a few blocks away from it and he was talking to us in IRC and they he said he was going outside, after a couple of hours he didn't come back we got worried but fortunately he was ok.

I suppose for me at my age this was the first big 'event' I have seen unfold live on TV, I was too young for the Falklands and things like the fall of the Berlin Wall.

 

[Cdr]

I think there's very few things that you can honestly say you'll remember for the rest of your life, and were you where and what you were doing at the time you heard about it - like the moonlandings this is one of them events where everyone can recall their exact movements.

The Sept 11th version of REM's Everybody Hurts is truely a chilling piece of music to listen to.

 

[Deebs]

Aye,

Today I feel quite sad.

9/11/01 will stay in my mind forever.

I was actually at Gatwick airport waiting to fly out to Malta with the love of my life,not anymore tho

We were in a Sports Bar in the terminal and EVERYONE just sat there dumbfounded with their tears rolling down their cheeks, myself included. I felt so guilty due to the fact that I was about to go and have a wicked holiday. Needless to say, the first 4 days of that holiday were very subdued.

 

[Furr]

Originally posted by Sir Frizz
I would love it though, for America to build a new skyline, like in Gig G's pic.

They are! they are building that exact skyline, that tall tower is going to be 1763(or there about) metres high. tallest in the world

 

[Cdr]

Originally posted by Furr
They are! they are building that exact skyline, that tall tower is going to be 1763(or there about) metres high. tallest in the world

As good as this is, and it shows the world that they are not put off by terrorists, you cant help but fear that it'll become a target

 

[Starman]

Remember where you were?

I was sat at home chatting in #barry's

 

[Testin da Cable]

Originally posted by Furr
that tall tower is going to be 1763(or there about) metres high. tallest in the world

nearly 2 kilometers eh? wonder how they're going to swing it.

 

[leggy]

2km?

Well it just goes to show the stupidity and arrogance of the American. Have they not learned anything from this disaster?

Tenner it's brought down in much the same fashion i.e. terrorist attack.

 

[Xtro 2.0]

I don't know why people have mentioned the death of Princess Di in this thread. Not very comparable IMHFO.

I do however remember the day she died. Hungover I thought I could hear my housemate say "the plant's died" and there was a lot of hullabaloo on the stairs. I opened my door and shouted who fucking cares if the bastard plant has died shut the fuck up. I was then told it was Princess Di. I said - my statement still stands, and fucked off to bed.

I was at work when I heard about the WTC and we couldnt really do much work, just watched it unfold. Horrible, felt like the end of the world - don't forget about those poor bastards who hit the pentagon and the people who forced that 4th plane to crash.

 

[Shocko]

Originally posted by Xtro 2.0
I don't know why people have mentioned the death of Princess Di in this thread. Not very comparable IMHFO.

I understand. When Diana died, half the people in the country went into "mourning". How sad they were that Diana had died. The news was dominated by it for ages. At the funeral, over a million people lined the streets. The question is, why? People die every single day, why should this paticular death get everyone so worked up. I didn't know Diana, i never met her, i never thought much of her when she was alive, i really didn't care too much that she'd died. I actually find it quite sick that people made such a deal of it. The media hyped her death, so people felt like they should feel sad, which they did. Crying because you've been told you should do, is really quite sick if you ask me.

The same logic applies to the terrorist attack on the 11th of Sept. I didn't know any of those people, thousands of people are killed unjustly everyday, and i don't pay any attention to them, so why should i make an exception because they were American businessmen(and women)? It didn't bother me at the time(i think i said some pretty nasty things in threads like these), and it certainly doesn't bother me now. The 11th of Sept is my sister's birthday, so i consider it to be a good day.



To correct some logic:

"Two of the most important buildings in the world's only superpower get destroyed by terrorists, that's important by anyone's standards"
Not really. I have little but contempt for the US, so the fact that its most prominent symbols of capitalism were destroyed doesn't seem such a bad thing to me.

"Thousands of innocent people were killed by terrorists!!11"
So? The US has killed thousands of innocent people in their invasions of Iraq, and Afghanistan. The loss of life in the former is obviously equally as unjust as in the WTC attacks, unless you believe that the US has the right to go around invading countrys at will. I don't hear many people crying over that.

 

[Deadmanwalking]

Originally posted by Cdr
As good as this is, and it shows the world that they are not put off by terrorists, you cant help but fear that it'll become a target

Being put off be terroism is the one thing that cannot happen. While i agree that it will become a target, you have to think that gicing into terroism and building buildings only under a certain height is giving into them. In countless corny movies they say they "don't bargain with terroists" this is for a good reason, in that if they think they can bargain that they hold the upper hand and can do what they want.

 

[Furr]

opps i ment feet

the ammount of feet is the date of american independance or sumin

 

[Ash!]

It sticks in your mind so vividly. It is one of those days whereby you go through a multitude of emotions. I was shocked then deeply saddened. I was angry with all those who were blamed for taking those innocent lives. I was annoyed with the Americans because I thought in part they may have brought in on themsleves thus making my world an unsafer place. I was angry with our government because all you got on TV was that London was on the highest security and that jets were patroling the skys. All I could think was "what about the rest of the country you fuckers"

Flicking between SKYNews CNN and anything else at night I just felt really guilty. My wife was 5 months pregnant. It just kept going through my mind why bring a child into a world filled with such hate.

We live about 15 mins drive from Manchester Airport. It was so quite sobering the following day walking my dog. Usually there was the odd plane or two flying overhead early in the morning. The sky was quiet. Very eeerie

 

[]SK[]

No Religion = World Peace

 

[Tom]

Of course WW2 was all about religion.

 

[Krazeh]

Originally posted by Anasyn
Innocent people should not be made to suffer, by anyone.
This may trigger people to say that America has caused innocent suffering by exploitation elsewhere, but that's not the point right now. Why should 3,000 innocent civilians die because of the actions of a few greedy corporate suits, or because an insane religious fanatic thinks they should?

No, I think there is the point that America has caused innocent suffering, innocent people were killed and injured in the attacks on both Afghanistan and Iraq. But these are deemed to be acceptable, cos they happened as part of America's "War on TERROR!!!!111"
And tbh Bush most probably had been itching to attack Iraq since he got in office, they just blatantly lied to the rest of the world about why they need to attack Iraq, had 11/9 not happened they woulda found another reason to initially bring up Iraq as a target.

 

[mank!]

Originally posted by Tom.
Of course WW2 was all about religion.

To an extent it was, war was only declared when Hitler went marching into Poland to find some more Jews to slaughter.

but even that is pretty arguable

As for WTC, I forget exactly where I was when I found out but I was sat in Business Studies when it happened. I came home about 3:30 and probably flicked the radio on and found out. I do remember watching most of it on telly though.

 

[Tom]

I'm glad they attacked Iraq. And there isn't a country on this planet that has a totally clean sheet. America is just the empire of the day, it won't last, it never does.

 

[Tom]

Originally posted by mank!
To an extent it was, war was only declared when Hitler went marching into Poland to find some more Jews to slaughter.

but even that is pretty arguable

Germany invaded Poland because Poland was an easy target, and part of Germany's plans to dominate Europe. We declared war because of our treaty obligations, not because of religious ties.

 

[mank!]

Originally posted by Tom.
Germany invaded Poland because Poland was an easy target, and part of Germany's plans to dominate Europe. We declared war because of our treaty obligations, not because of religious ties.

Yes, but there was also that religious motivation that Hitler wanted to exterminate the Jews. Is that not religiously motivated?

I didn't say we declared war because of religion at all, just that the invasion of Poland which was a precursor to the war was arguably religiously motivated.

 

[Munkey-]

Still, Saddam Hussein was an evil man, even if he has been one of the few countries activley supporting Palestine against Israel. What i dont approve of, is the utter botch-up they've made of it. Americans really cannot control their sector, the brits sector seems to be getting along a little better.

And they're now changing their WMD story.

Mixed emotions there indeed.

 

[dysfunction]

Originally posted by Starman
Remember where you were?

I was at home with an inner ear infection...which affected my balance quite a bit.

I managed to crawl to the lounge after being tired of lying in bed....and turned to sky news and was immediately shocked as I was suddenly watching a plane flying into a building!!

I was stunned to say the least

 

[Krazeh]

Yes, saddam did need to be removed, but the way they did it was completely wrong, they lied to the international scene then conducted what was most likely an illegal war, but it's alright cos it was America who did it.

 

[dysfunction]

Originally posted by Krazeh
Yes, saddam did need to be removed, but the way they did it was completely wrong, they lied to the international scene then conducted what was most likely an illegal war, but it's alright cos it was America who did it.

Not done wrongly and Not illegal....show me your proof please? Thanks.

Dossier NOT "sexed up"

 

[Testin da Cable]

Hitler wreaking mayhem and more on Jews, Gypsies (sp?) and other persons had bloody FA to do with religion. Unless you're going to count Nazim as a religion, which you can in a twisted way tbh -like Socialism.

On a side note: I'd like to know where Irak's WMDs are. Weren't they supposed to have lots of them? Wasn't that the reason the war was on? Surely it didn't have anything to do with money and oil?

 

[mank!]

Originally posted by Testin da Cable
Hitler wreaking mayhem and more on Jews, Gypsies (sp?) and other persons had bloody FA to do with religion. Unless you're going to count Nazim as a religion, which you can in a twisted way tbh -like Socialism.

I admit it's a strenuous link, but it's an arguable and interesting point. So there.

It was more to do with Hitler wanting to dominate the world and kill Jews though.

 

[old.Fweddy]

Originally posted by Testin da Cable
On a side note: I'd like to know where Irak's WMDs are. Weren't they supposed to have lots of them? Wasn't that the reason the war was on? Surely it didn't have anything to do with money and oil?

Iraq's entire arsenal of WMD were used to try and fend off the American attack. This attack was so powerful that the weapons wiped out all record of the troops they killed, and all evidence that the weapons themselves had existed or been used. The Iraqis would undoubtedly have conquered the world with these superweapons if they hadn't made the error of launching everything they had at a single American truck delivering potatoes to the front.

 

[Tom]

Originally posted by mank!
Yes, but there was also that religious motivation that Hitler wanted to exterminate the Jews. Is that not religiously motivated?

Racial, not religious