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I knew it!
Hidden classes.
I knew it!
Hidden classes.
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old.Xanthian
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Well your all blabbing on about bards getting insta mezz, and i'll blab on about minstrels getting aoe mezz (albeit shit mezz, its still aoe).
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Minstrel ae mezz 5sec cast,bard instant 
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Guess its just hibb and midd supperior tactics that crush albs, not that they get stun,group purge etc blalblalbla.. and midds get insta mezz from healers/skalds....... and that alb got some of the crappiest classes in this game. go ahead and brag about how bad your blademasters and warriors are and Nightshades etc..
but nothing can beat a paladin, or ice wizard
or an Sorc not useing body template.
Give clerics or friars group purge and ill be happy go ahead keep your stun take away SoS if you want group purge is way better. Take away sorc dds and give them better hps and armours... Healing is really damage in one kind of way (thats what i think mythic had in mind, they had to have some change between the CCs so they placed an dd instead of heals on sorc, gave it a stupid pet to show the nmy who to kill and then gave him cloth etc so they could kill him easier). Then they had Paladins, these are to be compared with champs/thanes. Yes champs and thanes have both offensive spells so they wanted some change -> give paladin crap damageoutput, rezz, some crap chants.
Clerics yeah .... Smite bitches... well Druids/healers are to be compared with these, all three got insta heals blalbal, they placed some "fake CC" on them all. Cleric got insta pbaoe mezz (i rearely see anyone use it exept when soloing), Healers got loads of crap all gay stuff in the game, Druids got root stuff....
All these got buffs and can specc in it, Healers got insta range mezz & stun, cleric got pbaoe ... huhu, Druid got root i think. Now to RAs Cleric gets bunker of faith (+50% melee absorb) should affect whole group currently bugged tho. Healers get something, and Druids can get Group purge - this is really powerfull, this and the instas are the thing i want to see go....
Fact is Hibb tanks are supperior to the alb ones aswell i cant mention many classes that alb beat the hibb classes in.
Bard > sorcerer (can do more for the group than just mezz, instead of crap nukes they can crap-heal and buff: note if you want same radius as bards get for free you gotta get 34mind = you get no uber nuke - soon insta mezz for bard - QC and lower armour + crap pet makes up for this + crap debuffs?.. mkay)
champ > paladin
Hero > armsman
Mentalist > Theurgist (i donno if this is compared with warden..)
Warden > Friar (yes for groups warden is alot more viable)
Scout > Ranger (if buffed and propperly specced scout beats ranger)
Enchanter > cabalist
Druid > Cleric (group purge)
Eldrich = Wizard (id say both are kinda even)
Nightshade < Infiltrator
Blademaster < merc (cool)
?? Minstrel ?? (compare this with bard or with what?, a bad mix of a shade along with ss5 and nothing the bard cant do better exept for soloing)
Ok this is my point of view....
and Nightshades etc..but nothing can beat a paladin, or ice wizard
or an Sorc not useing body template.
Give clerics or friars group purge and ill be happy go ahead keep your stun
take away SoS if you want group purge is way better. Take away sorc dds and give them better hps and armours... Healing is really damage in one kind of way (thats what i think mythic had in mind, they had to have some change between the CCs so they placed an dd instead of heals on sorc, gave it a stupid pet to show the nmy who to kill and then gave him cloth etc so they could kill him easier). Then they had Paladins, these are to be compared with champs/thanes. Yes champs and thanes have both offensive spells so they wanted some change -> give paladin crap damageoutput, rezz, some crap chants.Clerics yeah .... Smite bitches... well Druids/healers are to be compared with these, all three got insta heals blalbal, they placed some "fake CC" on them all. Cleric got insta pbaoe mezz (i rearely see anyone use it exept when soloing), Healers got loads of crap all gay stuff in the game, Druids got root stuff....
All these got buffs and can specc in it, Healers got insta range mezz & stun, cleric got pbaoe ... huhu, Druid got root i think. Now to RAs Cleric gets bunker of faith (+50% melee absorb) should affect whole group currently bugged tho. Healers get something, and Druids can get Group purge - this is really powerfull, this and the instas are the thing i want to see go....
Fact is Hibb tanks are supperior to the alb ones aswell i cant mention many classes that alb beat the hibb classes in.
Bard > sorcerer (can do more for the group than just mezz, instead of crap nukes they can crap-heal and buff: note if you want same radius as bards get for free you gotta get 34mind = you get no uber nuke - soon insta mezz for bard - QC and lower armour + crap pet makes up for this + crap debuffs?.. mkay)
champ > paladin
Hero > armsman
Mentalist > Theurgist (i donno if this is compared with warden..)
Warden > Friar (yes for groups warden is alot more viable)
Scout > Ranger (if buffed and propperly specced scout beats ranger)
Enchanter > cabalist
Druid > Cleric (group purge)
Eldrich = Wizard (id say both are kinda even)
Nightshade < Infiltrator
Blademaster < merc (cool
)?? Minstrel ?? (compare this with bard or with what?, a bad mix of a shade along with ss5 and nothing the bard cant do better exept for soloing)
Ok this is my point of view....
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Hatjitjai
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Kinda ironic, in RvR everything can beat a paladin
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ANYBODY who says mins ae mezz is good is a fuggin newb. there is NO way you can compare a mins 5 second casting sucky ass mezz with a ae insta mezz .
minstrels insta mezz blows big time . i'd be willing to bet NO high lvl minstrel has used it to his benefit in rvr . he may of tried it once but i bet he aint tried it since .
can a hib say he has been mezz'd by it ? by that i mean more than one person . for a minstrel to get into the middle of a grp of hibs/mids he would have to stealth in UNSEEN "not gonna happen" then he has to stand there like a dickhead casting it for 5 seconds hoping all the hibs are asleep and dont f8>stick>interupt his cast . are mids/hibs really so stupid to let a minz use this spell ? i think not , mins stealth sucks so he prolly wouldnt even be able to get into a crowd of enemys let alone ae mezz them . also bards can cast there ae mez/insta ae mezz from DISTANCE hence making it far far more easy to cast . IF minstrals were to have ae insta mezz then im sure the bard/healer instas wouldnt bother alb much . and as stated above casters with 9 second stun and uber nukes imo is overpowered . im sure mids agree with this , and idont blame hibs for trying to defend there chars when they have uber skills , but the fact is there is a lot of spells in the game "mostly hib" that are over powered . its not hibs fault its mythics . plus u can throw into the sum that most hibs grps are full of healers . bards/druids/wardens v v rare you get 3 clerics ina grp and if u do ussually they are smiters . bards/druids/wardens all bring a 2nd usefull grp ability, wardens pbt/heal/tanking bard various mezz spells / healing / speed and lots of other songs . druids ae root / healing . clerics either only offer the grp smiting or healing . friars offer grp tanking or healing . as many people have said in the past albion has to many classes and spells are spread out whereas hib have most the best spells compact ito less classes . hence enabling them to create a more deadly 8man grp ,
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Originally posted by Tranquil-
I am gay
look at that button called "quote" on the page you write the message. you call the skill of reading to be nerdlike? ok, dude
It still neglects the time spent on casting it as of now. dude
And the easier it is to get the faster they will use it. meaning hopefully the time timer is still there so they can't using it on YOU, pick your battles as best you can, dude.
not compared to mez/stun
another example of a guy reading spellists and thinks this must be uber. You should have tried it, there was a reason cabbies was the class most laughed at for more than half a year
Wrong. Try to level an ice wiz, and you'll see what I mean. dude
Nope, I can't, however I can see a pattern of a smartass which talks without experience. dude
And I won't go start a zerg, I'd rather go play my ice wiz. dude
I wont argue with someone arguing agains himselves,
But Il tell ya MATTER cabalist = uBer......
ok they were a bit gimped b4 they could stack DoTs but now they got instant spells and a pet to powerdump with..... and next patch the DoT dammage will be INCREASED.....
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cept sos = clears speed debuffs, if your stunned u can run but cant attack
woo so you can run around a target /flexing him until the spell wears off as normal
UBER!!
+ if minst is stunned/mes'd etc he cant use sos.
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w00t I read it made u imune to CC would think that meant u could attack.... doh, or is that just for stun?
ok ur fecked then till u leard to use purge---->
ok ur fecked then till u leard to use purge---->
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i use purge = 2 secs later restunned
pointful.
pointful.
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hihihihi, love teh whining 
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its simple if all 3 realms were equal there wouldnt be this much whining, ergo they are unqeual
whines will changed after patch dependong on which realm is over powered.
whines will changed after patch dependong on which realm is over powered.
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Ok let m c crying babes:
First of all, hibs haven´t got aoe insta range mez yet, so bard > sorc is WRONG till that tool comes in play, quickcast is faster than normal cast so sorc can out mez a bard anyday (44 in mind if u wanna a semi gimped uber mezzer 1.12 min mez) quickcaster is on a MUCH LOWER timer compared to any insta and bards RN´T overpowered yet (ok with insta RANGED aoe mez they might be) but remember healers got 3 kind of CC, sorc got 2, bard got ONE. Learn da freaking class be4 u cry. Bards can not do dmg, veeshan creates death spam.
Secondly stun, OHHH OVERPOWERED OHHH (echo) OHHH. As overpowered as ur CLERIC´S BASELINE stun or as ur mincers INSTA stun (highest at 40 so I´d say every single mincer got it) with a freaking mincer /stick on a sorc my NS can´t kill da fecking sorc! That more useful than any shield tank or anything, range´s 700 k but it´s more powerful than pb slam or ranged snare (not that good maybe as a insta mez but again those r skalds and u can mez from 1500 range if any visible enemy try to take ur sorc and he´s busy mezzing/rooting somebody else)
Well not wanna debate about mincer´s ae mez coz it´s pretty useless tbh.
Again to those mincers, u r POWERFUL, u r not OVERPOWERED if not using buff bot, u SHINE in a small grp but in large zerg u might not feel that good. U r quite BALANCED same as skalds (be4 blame tnk about pallis and warriors and then cry u r weak). And again, see hidden´s only powerful when u got a NS looking at u (or SB in mid version) it doesn´t negate ur spec, a rogue hybrid got wot he chooses, a stealth useful against all classes but 2, a mez quite good with good instruments, a INSTA stun freaking useful, wpn spec which can do dmg (not that much), a pet yellow con if u got 2 enemy mezzed and a gorgan camp by ur side and u r not uber buffed, 2 DDs which hurts with low timer and eat end and mana (not that much with stun but stun´s powerful as it´s insta), mr, mach 5, useless ae mez and health regen (more each tic than bard´s hr but still a joke) and chain + evade II. Look at a warden, they can´t heal as good as druids, they can´t fight as good as... any1, they can´t protect since they lack of shield spec but parry spec, they got pbt which makes em unique (as theur or RM) and dissapear if they got mezzed, they r a hybrid, they don´t xpect to do well at any situation but they r useful due to their unique spell and versatility. So stop crying if u feel ur mincer useless and ask Alpha a guide (he´s good w/o buff bot).
Hero > Armsman every 30 min, u can search those post be4 and nobody cried about heros be4 they got moose.
U can´t compare most classes, but try compare grp purge (debateble only useful and POWERFUL uniq RA in hib) vs arsman´s SB, pally´s FH, cleric´s BoF, and mincer´s SoS (it´s useful, maybe not as much offensively as defensively still debateble though) and mid´s perfect recovery´s nice too, with 2 healers in grp they will be tuff ^_^
And at last hibs got best casters (eldritch´s debateble but other 2 sure rulez), mids got more melees (I´m not saying they r best), and albs got best rogues (glad to argue with any1 about this).
/Flame on, try to beat me down
P.S.: Nova´s right, it´s balanced realm vs realm (u own and u got owned, key is that remember WHEN u OWN be4 crying u being owned!) but not balanced at all if u look at certain classes (sorry but I can´t c how a blademaster´s balanced)
First of all, hibs haven´t got aoe insta range mez yet, so bard > sorc is WRONG till that tool comes in play, quickcast is faster than normal cast so sorc can out mez a bard anyday (44 in mind if u wanna a semi gimped uber mezzer 1.12 min mez) quickcaster is on a MUCH LOWER timer compared to any insta and bards RN´T overpowered yet (ok with insta RANGED aoe mez they might be) but remember healers got 3 kind of CC, sorc got 2, bard got ONE. Learn da freaking class be4 u cry. Bards can not do dmg, veeshan creates death spam.
Secondly stun, OHHH OVERPOWERED OHHH (echo) OHHH. As overpowered as ur CLERIC´S BASELINE stun or as ur mincers INSTA stun (highest at 40 so I´d say every single mincer got it) with a freaking mincer /stick on a sorc my NS can´t kill da fecking sorc! That more useful than any shield tank or anything, range´s 700 k but it´s more powerful than pb slam or ranged snare (not that good maybe as a insta mez but again those r skalds and u can mez from 1500 range if any visible enemy try to take ur sorc and he´s busy mezzing/rooting somebody else)
Well not wanna debate about mincer´s ae mez coz it´s pretty useless tbh.
Again to those mincers, u r POWERFUL, u r not OVERPOWERED if not using buff bot, u SHINE in a small grp but in large zerg u might not feel that good. U r quite BALANCED same as skalds (be4 blame tnk about pallis and warriors and then cry u r weak). And again, see hidden´s only powerful when u got a NS looking at u (or SB in mid version) it doesn´t negate ur spec, a rogue hybrid got wot he chooses, a stealth useful against all classes but 2, a mez quite good with good instruments, a INSTA stun freaking useful, wpn spec which can do dmg (not that much), a pet yellow con if u got 2 enemy mezzed and a gorgan camp by ur side and u r not uber buffed, 2 DDs which hurts with low timer and eat end and mana (not that much with stun but stun´s powerful as it´s insta), mr, mach 5, useless ae mez and health regen (more each tic than bard´s hr but still a joke) and chain + evade II. Look at a warden, they can´t heal as good as druids, they can´t fight as good as... any1, they can´t protect since they lack of shield spec but parry spec, they got pbt which makes em unique (as theur or RM) and dissapear if they got mezzed, they r a hybrid, they don´t xpect to do well at any situation but they r useful due to their unique spell and versatility. So stop crying if u feel ur mincer useless and ask Alpha a guide (he´s good w/o buff bot).
Hero > Armsman every 30 min, u can search those post be4 and nobody cried about heros be4 they got moose.
U can´t compare most classes, but try compare grp purge (debateble only useful and POWERFUL uniq RA in hib) vs arsman´s SB, pally´s FH, cleric´s BoF, and mincer´s SoS (it´s useful, maybe not as much offensively as defensively still debateble though) and mid´s perfect recovery´s nice too, with 2 healers in grp they will be tuff ^_^
And at last hibs got best casters (eldritch´s debateble but other 2 sure rulez), mids got more melees (I´m not saying they r best
), and albs got best rogues (glad to argue with any1 about this). /Flame on, try to beat me down
P.S.: Nova´s right, it´s balanced realm vs realm (u own and u got owned, key is that remember WHEN u OWN be4 crying u being owned!) but not balanced at all if u look at certain classes (sorry but I can´t c how a blademaster´s balanced)
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mincer stun = 5 sec odd and minst gets what 1 hit in for that ? yea uber ..
caster stun = long enuf to solo 3 yellow cons
thats why ppl say their overpowered.
will change when purge actually gives some immunity and whines will change then to.
and if u get a pet u cant ae mes as pet will break while u casting and then attack you
so fun
caster stun = long enuf to solo 3 yellow cons
thats why ppl say their overpowered.
will change when purge actually gives some immunity and whines will change then to.
and if u get a pet u cant ae mes as pet will break while u casting and then attack you
so fun
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Erm u kinda forgot to mention that Ice Wiz pbaoe is 0.5 second longer cast time. A fkin huge amount on such a powerful spell.
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And where´s cleric´s baseline stun? Where´s scout´s shield stun (no other rogues got it and it´s from a stealth, my main got slammed by a scout times and got 2 shooted, with 1 hit with a fast wpn to clean BT of course)? Where´s insta > cast there?
A hib caster can hardly kill any1 but casters or rogues unbuffed 1vs1 be4 stun wear off, best way is assist tank and just nuke away (slam), u know that no caster will aim a pally rvr, last time a lvl 50 eldritch void tried it, was 280 (-150) on a tank, can´t c how u can kill one be4 stun wear off. Resist ownz, I got hit 314 x 3 by Elegidos (50+ in ice theurgist) when my NS´s (rogue with WORST HP) BLUE con to him and didn´t die to those 3 nukes (he must cried a lot tbh... it´s sad hehe) and he shares SAME dmg type than and void eldritch (supposely nuker of hib as opposite as wizzy, which results in a laugh) and voiders got only BASELINE DD. Do urself a favour and find some good resistance itamz, hibs do mostly heat and cold dmg which is EASILY offset by resistance items.
Clean the mind about ohh ubah 1 v 1 (which again isn´t true!), rvr isn´t 1v1 (but 4 Alpha of course, in his term it´s 1 v 3 and he wins) Grps, use grps to earn rps, mincers shine in a grp due to that. Insta > cast u know it, I can´t count the times I had running sprint after some invaders, /face and qc mez and find he´s out of range.
With determination and resistance hib stun sux, it´s more likely 2 cast from it and unless they r pb they do SHIT dmg! No caster does 1000+ from 1850 everysingle cast (Ignea did 1400+ to me with a bolt, lvl 50 eld in epic armor and 1 hit but that´s crit), remember, cap dmg of best DD´s 660 vs GREY, it´s 400+ if u got 0 resistance and more likely 300ish with ok resist (lower that to 250+ with best resist or some pally chant)
To conclude, use stun to help in grp, a cleric can do that as good as a caster and he´s got much more hps while a mincer got stealth (run toward a caster, when u c he´s casting, stealth, de stealth and keep running that caster can only run or wait death, stun+mez or stealth+mez) Being able to cast stuffs while moving´s a BIG advantage, learn to use it.
Play a hib caster and sure u can kill 3210423 yellows (of course lvl 46 with racial resistance negative) with a single target stun. I can only c the stun being powerful with pbaoe, but again pb requires u to be in 0 range and only perfectly doable with a mezzed enemy which is dead be4 hand already. Resistance nerfed us casters A LOT and determination (in 1.53 uber cheap to heavy tanks) crashed CC in the same way.
A hib caster can hardly kill any1 but casters or rogues unbuffed 1vs1 be4 stun wear off, best way is assist tank and just nuke away (slam), u know that no caster will aim a pally rvr, last time a lvl 50 eldritch void tried it, was 280 (-150) on a tank, can´t c how u can kill one be4 stun wear off. Resist ownz, I got hit 314 x 3 by Elegidos (50+ in ice theurgist) when my NS´s (rogue with WORST HP) BLUE con to him and didn´t die to those 3 nukes (he must cried a lot tbh... it´s sad hehe) and he shares SAME dmg type than and void eldritch (supposely nuker of hib as opposite as wizzy, which results in a laugh) and voiders got only BASELINE DD. Do urself a favour and find some good resistance itamz, hibs do mostly heat and cold dmg which is EASILY offset by resistance items.
Clean the mind about ohh ubah 1 v 1 (which again isn´t true!), rvr isn´t 1v1 (but 4 Alpha of course, in his term it´s 1 v 3 and he wins) Grps, use grps to earn rps, mincers shine in a grp due to that. Insta > cast u know it, I can´t count the times I had running sprint after some invaders, /face and qc mez and find he´s out of range.
With determination and resistance hib stun sux, it´s more likely 2 cast from it and unless they r pb they do SHIT dmg! No caster does 1000+ from 1850 everysingle cast (Ignea did 1400+ to me with a bolt, lvl 50 eld in epic armor and 1 hit but that´s crit), remember, cap dmg of best DD´s 660 vs GREY, it´s 400+ if u got 0 resistance and more likely 300ish with ok resist (lower that to 250+ with best resist or some pally chant)
To conclude, use stun to help in grp, a cleric can do that as good as a caster and he´s got much more hps while a mincer got stealth (run toward a caster, when u c he´s casting, stealth, de stealth and keep running that caster can only run or wait death, stun+mez or stealth+mez) Being able to cast stuffs while moving´s a BIG advantage, learn to use it.
Play a hib caster and sure u can kill 3210423 yellows (of course lvl 46 with racial resistance negative) with a single target stun. I can only c the stun being powerful with pbaoe, but again pb requires u to be in 0 range and only perfectly doable with a mezzed enemy which is dead be4 hand already. Resistance nerfed us casters A LOT and determination (in 1.53 uber cheap to heavy tanks) crashed CC in the same way.
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U mean pb as long cast time as mana eld´s?
/Runs off and cries (no offense look at my main)
And our mana chanter´s one as fast as SM´s one with less dmg?
/Keeps crying
/Runs off and cries (no offense look at my main)
And our mana chanter´s one as fast as SM´s one with less dmg?
/Keeps crying
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Hm, arguing with my self? Where?
Matter cabbie? I know it's good. Instant spells = debuffs. Matter cabbie means insta dex debuff. Next patch intelligence will be a modifier in damage calc, yep, so? This wasn't about the cabbie was it? dude
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Sigh
I wanna say so many things i dont know where to begin:
Atm are quite unbalanced, mostly Hibernia has the upper hand, and i dont know what will happen next patch:
-Baseline stun in a nuker is overpowered no matter what u say, i can nuke for 500 -resists, mostly about 350 and i dont have any relic, in 9 secs i can cast 4 nukes = kill any class. Plz dont tell me im a wizard coz light eldritches get my same DD + AE mezz + nearsight (wonderful class, why u dont have more of those?), and chanter or menta light-speced can do a little less damage than me... very little. Void Eldritches r broken and i feel sorry for them and for RC runeys. This will prolly change when resists affects CC but atm is very very overpowered, (stun is heat, high resists, so stun will be nerfed big time) period.
-Plz dont compare ice wiz PBAOE with mana eld PBAOE (btw is energy resist vs cold so is better), but with mana chanter PBAOE > is faster, and chanter has stun/snaring pet/debuffs/speed
-Matter cabalist is not bad, but u cant stack any DOT over the AE DOT, and that AE will break any mezz ur fellows maybe have landed (tho in Exc/Alb most ppl dont give a shit about mezzes, feckin lamers). He can debuff resists on his own damage type, but ur DOT will be healed be4 it does full damage... btw the other char who can debuff his own damage type is the overpowered Chanter, who can debuff his Heat nukes (insta debuff soon) that have 209 base damage (mine is 220 and sure it hurts as hell)
-Group Purge, im inclined to think thats just too much, but i can stand that as a Purged char can be remezzed by another kind of mezz spell (and thats not a bug and it not solved next patch btw), but point is Hibs r the only realm that can Purge twice in the same fight. It gives a slight edge. Personally i would like to see all purges removed from game, and only resists and cure mezz able to affect CC.
-U got more PBAOE parties, u level faster, tho thats Albs fault in fact, and i think the 45-50 range is far more difficult in Hibernia than here.
-IP in moose mode is an aberration (IP is an aberration by itself), but well is on a dual 30 minute timer (IP + moose) so i can stand that too
-Bard more appealing in RvR than sorcs, coz they dont die so fast (tho i nuke every bard i see, usually there are like 4-5 bards and i cant nuke all) and get more RPs and more useful goodies
Now Midguard:
-Aoe Stun is another aberration, u get AOE Stunned, then u get AOE nuked by lots of Thanes/RMS and Shamans DOTing u.
-Next patch Mid will get best PBAOE damage on all DaoC, even when Mythic stated Mid didnt have PBAOE coz they had already AOE stun (get a Healer and 2 SMs and own emain, any of u?)
General:
-All insta-CC sux, u cant beat an insta, is a WIN button u cant do nothing to prevent if ur enemy is not retarded.
-Castable Stun sux too, if u cant play u dont get fun, and is frustating to get killed without being able to do a single things (apply this to insta-CCs too)
-Nearsight, a spell with NO TIMER, NO HEALING, and stackable (i mean if they recast on u, the 2 mins duration kick in again) that removes any caster/healer from the fight for 2 entire minutes.
-Remove those 3 things, remove Purge and keep resists affecting CC and heal mezz as well as determination, and i think this game would be much funnier.
Next patches:
-Best PBAOE + AOE stun is gonna hurt LOTs
-The fabled insta-mezz from bards will be really annoying even with low duration, coz u have lot of bards so they can cast normal mezzes, and if interrupted, just use insta. I think Mythic and all of u didnt noticed Bard gets 1.5xlevel, the only primary CCer getting that, so he can get last insta without sacrificing a single thing (Healer has to sacrifice healing/buffs for full CC, Sorc has to sacrifice any damage output to get a nice AE mezz)
Btw i agree Albion gets the best stealthers, but is all Albion gets, and stealthers dont win mass fights. I agree too Albion/Exc has a lot of players, so we have too lot of lamers and no organization, and everybody breaks every class of CC they see, so thats a BIG part of our problem: TANKS PLZ ATTACK CASTERS/HEALERS AND LEAVE ENEMY TANKS ALONE, WE CAN HANDLE WITH QUICKCAST CC AND U CANT KILL THEM BE4 THEY KILL US.
Im sure i forgot sumthing, but this post is long enough to bore all of u, i hope i see most flamers of BW in PVP on a more friendly mood if we dont wanna get zerged by lots of german beer-drinkers.
Urs sincerely,
I wanna say so many things i dont know where to begin:
Atm are quite unbalanced, mostly Hibernia has the upper hand, and i dont know what will happen next patch:
-Baseline stun in a nuker is overpowered no matter what u say, i can nuke for 500 -resists, mostly about 350 and i dont have any relic, in 9 secs i can cast 4 nukes = kill any class. Plz dont tell me im a wizard coz light eldritches get my same DD + AE mezz + nearsight (wonderful class, why u dont have more of those?), and chanter or menta light-speced can do a little less damage than me... very little. Void Eldritches r broken and i feel sorry for them and for RC runeys. This will prolly change when resists affects CC but atm is very very overpowered, (stun is heat, high resists, so stun will be nerfed big time) period.
-Plz dont compare ice wiz PBAOE with mana eld PBAOE (btw is energy resist vs cold so is better), but with mana chanter PBAOE > is faster, and chanter has stun/snaring pet/debuffs/speed
-Matter cabalist is not bad, but u cant stack any DOT over the AE DOT, and that AE will break any mezz ur fellows maybe have landed (tho in Exc/Alb most ppl dont give a shit about mezzes, feckin lamers). He can debuff resists on his own damage type, but ur DOT will be healed be4 it does full damage... btw the other char who can debuff his own damage type is the overpowered Chanter, who can debuff his Heat nukes (insta debuff soon) that have 209 base damage (mine is 220 and sure it hurts as hell)
-Group Purge, im inclined to think thats just too much, but i can stand that as a Purged char can be remezzed by another kind of mezz spell (and thats not a bug and it not solved next patch btw), but point is Hibs r the only realm that can Purge twice in the same fight. It gives a slight edge. Personally i would like to see all purges removed from game, and only resists and cure mezz able to affect CC.
-U got more PBAOE parties, u level faster, tho thats Albs fault in fact, and i think the 45-50 range is far more difficult in Hibernia than here.
-IP in moose mode is an aberration (IP is an aberration by itself), but well is on a dual 30 minute timer (IP + moose) so i can stand that too
-Bard more appealing in RvR than sorcs, coz they dont die so fast (tho i nuke every bard i see, usually there are like 4-5 bards and i cant nuke all) and get more RPs and more useful goodies
Now Midguard:
-Aoe Stun is another aberration, u get AOE Stunned, then u get AOE nuked by lots of Thanes/RMS and Shamans DOTing u.
-Next patch Mid will get best PBAOE damage on all DaoC, even when Mythic stated Mid didnt have PBAOE coz they had already AOE stun (get a Healer and 2 SMs and own emain, any of u?)
General:
-All insta-CC sux, u cant beat an insta, is a WIN button u cant do nothing to prevent if ur enemy is not retarded.
-Castable Stun sux too, if u cant play u dont get fun, and is frustating to get killed without being able to do a single things (apply this to insta-CCs too)
-Nearsight, a spell with NO TIMER, NO HEALING, and stackable (i mean if they recast on u, the 2 mins duration kick in again) that removes any caster/healer from the fight for 2 entire minutes.
-Remove those 3 things, remove Purge and keep resists affecting CC and heal mezz as well as determination, and i think this game would be much funnier.
Next patches:
-Best PBAOE + AOE stun is gonna hurt LOTs
-The fabled insta-mezz from bards will be really annoying even with low duration, coz u have lot of bards so they can cast normal mezzes, and if interrupted, just use insta. I think Mythic and all of u didnt noticed Bard gets 1.5xlevel, the only primary CCer getting that, so he can get last insta without sacrificing a single thing (Healer has to sacrifice healing/buffs for full CC, Sorc has to sacrifice any damage output to get a nice AE mezz)
Btw i agree Albion gets the best stealthers, but is all Albion gets, and stealthers dont win mass fights. I agree too Albion/Exc has a lot of players, so we have too lot of lamers and no organization, and everybody breaks every class of CC they see, so thats a BIG part of our problem: TANKS PLZ ATTACK CASTERS/HEALERS AND LEAVE ENEMY TANKS ALONE, WE CAN HANDLE WITH QUICKCAST CC AND U CANT KILL THEM BE4 THEY KILL US.
Im sure i forgot sumthing, but this post is long enough to bore all of u, i hope i see most flamers of BW in PVP on a more friendly mood if we dont wanna get zerged by lots of german beer-drinkers.
Urs sincerely,
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old.BJ|Bored
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i dunno what game you play but a hib can nuke my tank to death in 4 nukes, sometimes 3, and as soon as im stunned im dead, ive never survived long enough to even move before im dead by nukes.
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The realm with best CC also gets Group purge
can't be more unfair.
can't be more unfair.
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Well Aussie.. it seems u must be "teh ub0r l33t" then.. I mean christ how have you got so many RP's from such a shit char against such a formidable realm ?
Jeez I swear you albs are stupid..
Hibs have 1 RR7 and 4 RR6.
Albs have 2 RR7 and 4 RR6.
Mids have 0 RR7 and 11 RR6.
(not inc. unguilded)
Hib has 82 Million RP
Alb has 101 Million RP
Mid has 96 Million RP
I think that shows that Mids and Albs either :
1. Have a class advantage
2). Hibs just suck
3). All realms are equal and Hibs still suck
Just stop whinging, its clear Albs can win in numbers, and atm are by far the "best" RVR realm to be in (I say that because of the sheer numbers of you, not skill)
Lets all play nice and get on with the game :sleeping:
Jeez I swear you albs are stupid..
Hibs have 1 RR7 and 4 RR6.
Albs have 2 RR7 and 4 RR6.
Mids have 0 RR7 and 11 RR6.
(not inc. unguilded)
Hib has 82 Million RP
Alb has 101 Million RP
Mid has 96 Million RP
I think that shows that Mids and Albs either :
1. Have a class advantage
2). Hibs just suck
3). All realms are equal and Hibs still suck
Just stop whinging, its clear Albs can win in numbers, and atm are by far the "best" RVR realm to be in (I say that because of the sheer numbers of you, not skill)
Lets all play nice and get on with the game :sleeping:
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lmao xanth that posts just so deluded you gotta be on drugs, share em out m8.
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Ask any pally how the feck they r killed in 4 nukes in grp and if they r not in grp ask em how the feck r they running alone.
Any tanks r hard to kill with nukes I don´t tnk casters will nuke anything be4 a tank.
Read wot I wrote, BE4 the stun wear off, how many classes die with stun not being casters and rogues?
Btw Hib´s supposed to be the magic realm, just IMO mid´s warriors should be more powerful, atm they r a laugh tbh.
Ignea´s right, just that elds r broken /cry but ignea DD 4 times in a stun´s not possible, just after stun (3 DD u can´t cast 4) hit IP and it´s null. But hey, chanter light spec got no stackable 3 atk spd debuff, 2 of em aoe, that´s a roflmao hehehe (well they got as an answer load of mana luri-chanters running all around and pbing... resemble to annoying lucradans hehe)
Dot´s soon stackable 4 all dotters. Group purge is hib´s only powerful RA, while in alb in a standard grp (which should have a pally soon due to their end regen) mincer, arms, pally, cleric those 4 r present and all 4 got great 30 min RA (which should well offset group purge coz u can rarely find 2 druids in a hib´s grp)
45-50 sux in all realm u r right. IP mooose = only once 30 min, me can too stand it The problem with sorc is that albs still got clerics to pb mez and mincers to single mez, but a hib grp SUX without a bard, period, therefor any good grp has got a bard while not all grp can have a sorc due to their rarity, not that they r not useful, u know ur grp´s too great and keep u alive well, same applies to veeshan who can qc+mez even 3 times in a battle if all RA´s up and that sure wins the battle. IMO it´s quite crazy if an alb grp got 0 sorc and u know it
Totally agree with mid part. Insta sux, remove stun from all parts and c who cries more (remember to upper our dmg with that and give a root), prolly mids hehe. Nearsight sux, should be a cure nearsight spell (btw wizzys suffer it the most, u know Mythic won´t give u a nearsight hehe) We need collision detection but u know Mythic isn´t good enough to program it
Next patch when mids got 2 pb SMs and 2 healers 1 skald 1 RM in a grp they will own. Bards got 1.5 that´s higher doubtless ^_^
And Aussie dear, Hib best CC? U mean as good as insta (& cast) ae (& single) stun, insta (& cast) ae (& single) mez, insta atk spd debff, long duration root, power regen, amnesia ae & single all in ONE line (sorc got root in body and mez in mind while bards got only mez in music)?
Any tanks r hard to kill with nukes I don´t tnk casters will nuke anything be4 a tank.
Read wot I wrote, BE4 the stun wear off, how many classes die with stun not being casters and rogues?
Btw Hib´s supposed to be the magic realm, just IMO mid´s warriors should be more powerful, atm they r a laugh tbh.
Ignea´s right, just that elds r broken /cry
but ignea DD 4 times in a stun´s not possible, just after stun (3 DD u can´t cast 4) hit IP and it´s null. But hey, chanter light spec got no stackable 3 atk spd debuff, 2 of em aoe, that´s a roflmao hehehe (well they got as an answer load of mana luri-chanters running all around and pbing... resemble to annoying lucradans hehe)Dot´s soon stackable 4 all dotters. Group purge is hib´s only powerful RA, while in alb in a standard grp (which should have a pally soon due to their end regen) mincer, arms, pally, cleric those 4 r present and all 4 got great 30 min RA (which should well offset group purge coz u can rarely find 2 druids in a hib´s grp)
45-50 sux in all realm u r right. IP mooose = only once 30 min, me can too stand it
The problem with sorc is that albs still got clerics to pb mez and mincers to single mez, but a hib grp SUX without a bard, period, therefor any good grp has got a bard while not all grp can have a sorc due to their rarity, not that they r not useful, u know ur grp´s too great and keep u alive well, same applies to veeshan who can qc+mez even 3 times in a battle if all RA´s up and that sure wins the battle. IMO it´s quite crazy if an alb grp got 0 sorc and u know it Totally agree with mid part. Insta sux, remove stun from all parts and c who cries more (remember to upper our dmg with that and give a root), prolly mids hehe. Nearsight sux, should be a cure nearsight spell (btw wizzys suffer it the most, u know Mythic won´t give u a nearsight hehe) We need collision detection but u know Mythic isn´t good enough to program it
Next patch when mids got 2 pb SMs and 2 healers 1 skald 1 RM in a grp they will own. Bards got 1.5 that´s higher doubtless ^_^
And Aussie dear, Hib best CC? U mean as good as insta (& cast) ae (& single) stun, insta (& cast) ae (& single) mez, insta atk spd debff, long duration root, power regen, amnesia ae & single all in ONE line (sorc got root in body and mez in mind while bards got only mez in music)?
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Xan who´s alb´s second aleron (sp?) knight?
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no offence mate,but i got nuked for 2 x 600+ by gobarnachta yesterday in emain..i was buffed,and thank god we have uber clerics ,if a 3rd nuke landed i was dead
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Can we please stop with all the "dude" talking?
Oh and get Determination ffs if you complain about being stunned, i know im getting it to reduce the damn time on mezz/root.
Just so ya know, its also not nice to get rooted for +1min.
Oh and get Determination ffs if you complain about being stunned, i know im getting it to reduce the damn time on mezz/root.
Just so ya know, its also not nice to get rooted for +1min.
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whats wrong with "dude" ?
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old.Takahome
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Hatj, plz read, I said only PB can do that dmg!
600+ is with pbaoe! Nuke != PB!
Oh and second alerion knight´s veeshan, gratz mate
I know my post´s usually long, but plz read it be4 post wrong facts about my answer. Gobar no way can NUKE u 600 TWICE (even with 50% debuff he´s got low light spec, TWICE = 2 uber crit nuke which´s as rare as a healer meleeing down a pally) remember pb != nuke.
Now ask again any single caster in game who dare to nuke u (n#1 pally hehe nice) down 1v1 (u mezzed and he opens with a dd and follow it with stun), that´s suicide nonetheless.
Edit: want to put that "nuke" in red and failed
600+ is with pbaoe! Nuke != PB!
Oh and second alerion knight´s veeshan, gratz mate
I know my post´s usually long, but plz read it be4 post wrong facts about my answer. Gobar no way can NUKE u 600 TWICE (even with 50% debuff he´s got low light spec, TWICE = 2 uber crit nuke which´s as rare as a healer meleeing down a pally) remember pb != nuke.
Now ask again any single caster in game who dare to nuke u (n#1 pally hehe nice) down 1v1 (u mezzed and he opens with a dd and follow it with stun), that´s suicide nonetheless.
Edit: want to put that "nuke" in red and failed
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lvl 50 arms was hit for 900 + recently by a spell
i dont care what it is nuke/pb or what
thats overpowered.
even with relics.
i dont care what it is nuke/pb or what
thats overpowered.
even with relics.