The nerfbat swings... and hits.... the theurgists

Discussion in 'RvR Discussions' started by Enli, Jul 20, 2007.

  1. Enli

    Enli Fledgling Freddie

    Theurgist
    - Theurgists have had a cap placed on the total number of pets they can have out at a time. A theurgist is now only allowed 16 active pets, of any type, at a time.

    doesnt change much in fg fights i guess but ridiculous spam on gates and in pve are nerfed a bit now
     
  2. Raven

    Raven Brrrrr!

    About bloody time :)

    though as you say it wont make a huge difference in 8v8
     
  3. Tesla Monkor

    Tesla Monkor Fledgling Freddie

    I'd say the Theurgists succesfully evaded that nerfbat. It's a glancing hit at best - 16 pet limit is not exactly easy to hit (that's more than a full bar of mana worth of pets), and the new spells are pure love.

    Nerf, lol. ;P
     
  4. Carss

    Carss Guest

    i think you will find it swung and missed, this is a bullshit nerf that should of been equal to the animist nerf or reduced how long the pets last. Albion bias devs for you, they gave them love instead of a nerf now with new spec single target and area of effect nuke.

    Thing is if you dont include the pets at all the usual thuerg spec is fucking powerful enough as it is

    Speed
    AoE Mezz
    AoE Root
    RR5
    Spec Nuke
    Haste
    Damage Add

    Good job all the thuergs playing atm are shit insta rr5 bots, hasnt been a good thuerg since Pbuck quit.
     
  5. Enli

    Enli Fledgling Freddie

    true, never seen a decent one myself in ages
    rr5 and leeching is the most i see em do
     
  6. saitoh

    saitoh Loyal Freddie

    mamba was pretty good aswell !
     
  7. Himse

    Himse Part of the furniture

    lies.
     
  8. noaim

    noaim Fledgling Freddie

    At giving rp´s!
     
  9. Clueless as always.
     
  10. The carebear crying of the yanks on the VN Boards payed off.
     
  11. saitoh

    saitoh Loyal Freddie

    better than being pretty good at whining... like u are

    oh wait ! he was good at that too ! damn !!
     
  12. Inso

    Inso One of Freddy's beloved

    Yeah, a matter damage nuke sounds terrible, poor theurgs. :( Why is it always the underpowered classes that gets nerfed!? :(
     
  13. Solari

    Solari Can't get enough of FH

    And me who prayed for 1500 delve range on pets :(
     
  14. Littles

    Littles Loyal Freddie

    I was praying for the same also, why the range on pets is 2200 is beyond me. I really dont think mythic actually think about this class.
     
  15. Cromcruaich

    Cromcruaich Can't get enough of FH

    It looks pretty convincing to me. Care to explain why clueless? Or you doing your usual responding to the poster rather than the post?
     
  16. CorNokZ

    CorNokZ Currently a stay at home dad

    Ehm m8.. Theurgs are pretty OP

    Needed in most alb grps, so care to explain why Brite is being 'clueless'? :D
     
  17. Roo Stercogburn

    Roo Stercogburn Resident Freddy

    Not played one beyond low 20s so not sure how this so-called nerf affects them but on the outside looking in it doesn't seem like much.
     
  18. Muylaetrix

    Muylaetrix Can't get enough of FH

    seems like a good set of new stuff to me tbh.

    a cap on 16 pets... fair enough after they capped shrooms

    nukes in earth line ... good, imho, now all 3 theurg specs are valid choices imho.

    i would have thought that they would just copy the ice snare nuke to earth spec, just like they did with wizards, but hey, this looks good.
     
  19. Cromcruaich

    Cromcruaich Can't get enough of FH

    Aye bolt range at least. Or the range at which someone can send a pet to engage an enemy.

    One of the worst things is that they can be untargetable for seconds as they spam pets out, that is never acceptable - give last attacker key an option to pick the pet or the pet master.
     
  20. Carss

    Carss Guest

    I think i read somthing about making them smaller which is a step in the right direction, although the so called "nerf" is a joke
     
  21. Muylaetrix

    Muylaetrix Can't get enough of FH

    the nerf will probably have a bigger impact on pve and gates than on openfield, true.
     
  22. insie\

    insie\ Banned

    this is a pure example of the bad community-dev relationship, theurgs needed a nerf since day one really, insane for solo, perfect for group.

    if the nerf bat was to hit theurgs it should come in the form of 1500 or less pet range, and maybe a higher power cost for pets, considering with a greater power myth theurgs can just pet spam and nuke til their hearts are content :)

    Guess Tag will pet spam forever because I can't see this being solved prior to DAoC's downfall.
     
  23. insie\

    insie\ Banned


    can i resist this?! gah I cant!

    how in gods name are most of the tower humping albs gonna cope?!? :O
     
  24. kirennia

    kirennia Part of the furniture


    Since day 1? :p
    1.68 and below they were below par as a class. Before that time, no mids really had a right to whine anyway what with savages/zerks/healers etc how they were in turn ;)

    After this time, they started to rise up the ranks a bit. Currently, yes, they're too powerful, should really be limited down to 10 pets in my opinion.
    Just thought I'd be pedantic for a change :D
     
  25. Just read his garbage again. Seen plenty decent Theurgs on Dyvet.

    By the definition of the whiners everything that is being whined on is OP.

    Plenty of tools to shut a Theurg and the pets down in both enemy realms. Why should one listen to gimped whining Yanks that think that Thanes and Valks are still shit for FG RvR?

    Any caster casting freely for a longer time is devastating.
     
  26. Usual responding? Not my fault you are getting convinced so easily.

    "you, they gave them love instead of a nerf now with new spec single target and area of effect nuke."

    So what? Matter is becoming more common through all realms. 49 Earth for 179 spec nuke means no proper Ice/Air pets, no proper Ice snare nuke, no better delved Spirit nuke. It's more of a PvE bonus for all the Earth Therugs to offset the pet count nerf, which is again mostly PVE related.

    But if you want to have Earth Theurgs nerfed so badly, 16 pets in PvE and no DD, oh well, keep crying for it. Kinda pointless.

    "Thing is if you dont include the pets at all the usual thuerg spec is fucking powerful enough as it is

    Speed
    AoE Mezz
    AoE Root
    RR5
    Spec Nuke
    Haste
    Damage Add"

    Ah, now the Theurg is also overpowered without the pets. Fear the hasted/damage added aoe mezzing and rooting Theurgs staffing down their opponents.

    AoE mezz and AoE root are both in different spec lines, the mezz has a short duration. Anyway, each opted group has same form of CC/haste/DA, why should a Theurg spam mezz and root anyway if he can use pets? The mezz gives basicly free immunityy and the root gives immunity to snare which is much more important than rooting.

    You mezz or root when the Sorc is afk or if many enemies are stacked together, that shouldn't happen.

    "Good job all the thuergs playing atm are shit insta rr5 bots, hasnt been a good thuerg since Pbuck quit."

    Can you say troll?

    The nerfbat is pointless, why make ToA and stuff all easier, just to make it harder again?

    The range of the pets that has been mentioned - there is Amnesia and Nearsight to counter it.

    Still funny to see that someone playing a Caster with chain snaring pets complaings about Theurgs.
     
  27. Eleasias

    Eleasias Can't get enough of FH

    Manisch you are a moron.
     
  28. Carss

    Carss Guest

    Bonedancers have been nerfed down to baseline nuke, baseline root, a low level ae snare, low level lifetap plus pets......

    It isnt hard to take out those pets at the start of the fight and you must have a really shit group if you cant take down 1 pet, taking out thuerg pets is a whole different story due to the fact that each pet can be targetted at a specific player to interupt them, cant be mezzed and are melee and ranged aswell as being able to chain snare and stun without giving immunity whereas bd pets are completely random with regards to who they attack or which spell they use.

    The fact that with animists and bonedancers they took the route of NERF IT TO HELL because of albion whines then give it some minor love a few patches later. With an albion class its the softly softly bullshit approach to stop all the easymoder kids canceling thier subs (the same ones that whined heavily on bds and animists)

    I dont value you opinion at all because you talk all this bullshit about knowing how to play on FH, i dont think anyone falls for it because your an utter shit player that has only played albion so you have no experience playing against it so you cant comment.
     
  29. Cromcruaich

    Cromcruaich Can't get enough of FH

    Aye, just saw Ess's post of the direct text. Thats good news at least.
     
  30. Appollo

    Appollo Part of the furniture

    Turn was special therg :fluffle:
     

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