The Justice Department!!

[Heath]

With reference to the Tony Martin bit...the reason he shot the guy in the back is because he stuck both barrels through the letterbox and let rip. If you can find the info that says he went up and shot the guy again..do so. The two assholes who tried to rob him came from up the country. they travelled all the way down to Norfolk with the one intention of robbing him. 2 young guys..one old guy (who has a history of being robbed and a slight learning difficulty too. If they had have gotten in and found him unarmed, i am sure he would have been the victim. Brendon Fearon (the scum who lived) made a meal of it when it went to court. Even though he, and his dead mucker had a rap sheet longer than Linfords dick.And, Fearon was up in court again, along with family members for robbing something else !!. Tony Martin was made a scapegoat for the police fuckups that go on. I have done security at Tony Martins house long before any of that happened and found him a very easy going, but careful guy. I wonder what other would have done faced with that very same situation.

Also, i have heard..not sure if it is true. That, if somebody breaks into your house, and you and your family are upstairs...if you go downstairs to confront him you will get in the shit for any trouble caused to him. BUT, if he comes upstairs...thereby cutting you off from safety and the ability to flee (without flying out of the upstairs windows) you can use reasonable force because your personal safety is then compromised. What they class as reasonable force is a very grey area. If you club the fucker with a nightlamp...OK..if you happen to sleep with a nightstick under your side of the mattress (like i do) that could be classed as excesive force. But, if you club him with it..put it back when he is twitching on the floor and twat him with a lampshade..who is to know ((o:

And, having been trained and taught others in restraint and arrest, i would like to think that i could hurt the fooker while we wait for the police.

A story i saw in the newspapers once...a couple came back from a night out, got out of their taxi and saw flashlight moving in their house. The husband went around the backdoor to get in..confronted the guy inside, who jumped out of the front window and landed infront of the wife. Poor guy didnt know both people were something like 3rd Dan in Karate and teachers of it. She kicked him over, picked him up and threw him back into the house for the husband to "restrain"...when the police finally arrived the guy was crying and asking to be taken away. With the added bonus of a broken nose and 4 fractured fingers. ((o: Chuffed to bits

 

[Heath]

Soz for this,,,,,but gotta be read by others

How Fred Barras was killed by his family.
The father of the burglar shot dead by farmer Tony Martin has been jailed for 14 years for armed robbery. Six weeks after watching Martin sent down for life for the murder of his son, Fred Barras Snr tied up a woman security guard and held a gun to her head during a £400,000 raid on a clothing warehouse.

At the trial Barras said he was “devastated” by the death of his son, also call Fred.

Not so devastated, however, to prevent him walking into an industrial estate in Normanton, West Yorkshire, wearing a balaclava and carrying a gun. He forced the terrified lone woman guard to the floor, tied her hands and feet behind her back and pointed the gun at her temple. She was left trussed up like a turkey as Barras and his gang escaped with three lorry- loads of designer clothing. Her wrists and elbows were severely bruised, she suffered damaged tendons and was so traumatised she has now had to give up her job and seek psychiatric counselling.

Barras Snr’s criminal record dates back to 1969, when, as a juvenile, he was convicted of assault causing bodily harm. He has since accumulated an impressive number of convictions, including handling stolen property, theft, battery, assaulting the police, threatening behaviour and a string of driving offences.

In court this week, his barrister claimed that his client’s return to crime – or rather being caught – after an interval of a year, may have been connected with the death of his son.

We might of thought that losing a child in a shooting incident during a burglary would have had the exact opposite effect. Surely any sane, rational decent parent would never want anything to do with firearms again. Not, just six weeks later, menace a woman with a gun in the course of a robbery.

Another member of the Barras clan, Grandmother Elizabeth Barras, was also charged with possessing a firearm and assisting an offender in connection with the clothing warehouse job but was too ill to stand trial.

The family are currently seeking legal aid to sue Tony Martin for criminal compensation over the death of Fred Jnr.

His other Grandmother Mary Dolan said, “It’s not fair that the farmer has got all the money. Fred’s mother’s only got what she gets from benefit and if Fred was still here he would be in a job now and bringing more money into the house”.

She added: “He would not have been a thief forever”.

Yes he would. When he wasn’t in prison. Certainly if his father is anything to go by. It runs in the family. It’s what they do.

Fred Jnr was 16 when he died. When he broke into Martin’s farmhouse he had already appeared in court 18 times and had 29 criminal convictions to his name, including theft, fraud and assaulting the police. He had served two months in a young offenders’ institution. He was on bail at the time of the burglary and there is evidence he had been working as a fence.

Does this sound to you like a young man who would have turned his back on crime qualified as an accountant and joined the Rotary Club?

Fred Barras Jnr had spent his life surrounded by villains and low-life. The two men who took him on the burglary that fateful night both have criminal records as long as the M4 bus lane.

Darren Bark 33, who drove the car, had 52 previous convictions stretched back 20 years, including a large number for theft, burglary and assault. He has been in and out of prison more often than Norman Stanley Fletcher. Brendan Fearon 30, a family friend occasionally described as an “uncle”, is a vicious career criminal, with 33 convictions ranging from burglary to wounding.

Throw in Fred Jnr’s CV and the three men involved in the burglary at Tony Martin’s farmhouse had 114 convictions between them. Yet they were free to roam the countryside at random, thieving and menacing householders.

But it is Tony Martin, a man with a previously unblemished record, who is in jail for life, a political prisoner. Bark and Fearon will very soon be free to resume their criminal careers.

In a sick perversion of what passes for British “justice” these days, the Home Office has even consulted Fearon on when and whether Martin should be released. And the Barras family are able to apply for legal aid to sue Martin as “victims” of crime.

As I think someone once said; we are all going to hell in a handcart.

Fred Barras Jnr has been described as a “loveable rogue”. Fred Barras Snr said after Martin’s trial: “Fred was fun-loving and always happy, with no mean streak”. (Unless you count his 29 criminal convictions, presumably.)

“He was a devoted son and brother”. And he never stood a chance. The devoted son was destined to emulate his father and his scum-of-the-earth friends. That sealed his fate.

In a laughable piece of evidence, Brendan Fearon actually claimed they had only taken Fred Jnr along that night to “keep him out of trouble”.

Tony Martin may have fired the fatal shot but it was Fred Barras Jnr’s “family” who killed him.

Article written by Richard Littlejohn for The Sun Newspaper (June 15th 2001) - used with permission

 

[Heath]

Nerf the 10 minute edit timer..sux

Just read this...was not a side by side barrel..but a single barrel pump action...and he didnt shove it through the letter box

Tony Martin was coming down the stairs when he turned his shotgun on two burglars, the Appeal Court Heard today. Ballistics expert Dr Graham Renshaw, called by Martin's lawyers, said new evidence of minute cartridge discharge particles had been found on the staircase of Martin's remote farmhouse.

Also...Fearon (who was very worried about his friend Barras)...didnt even see if he was alright. Fred Barras crawled into bushes and died of the shotgun injury. Ah well.

 

[Morchaoron]

Hmm most people here go on about how they would kill somebody if they broke into there Home. Read the sentance again. That's Right, Kill somebody for breaking into your house regardless if they have stole anything or not. Then there's people goin on about if they threatened your family, wtf? there breaking into your house to steal your stuff not to wander around until you come down to threaten you or your family. If somebody does break into your house to actually threaten you or your family then I'd be 99% sure it was because you know this person and there's a Reason in which case it has fuck all to do with self defence in your home.

The fact of the matter is most of you people would not kill somebody that broke into your house regardless of what you say on a Forum. Whether you go into a mad rage and just flip out all crazy like and are some mad bull that kill's everything on site .

Just because somebody is stealing your stuff doesnt give you the right to kill them, there a Living Person. Oh and to the people who think " well there only scum and there life isnt worth anything anyway" who the gives you the right to decide that ? Nobody, you have no right to take a life from somebody for simply stealing from you. That said if somebody broke into my house I would confront them < Armed if possible> I would tell them to leave the house now as the police have been called, which everybody should do once your sure somebody is there. If he brands a weapon and goes for me I will defend my self so as to avoid injury and put him out of commission non-leathally if possible. If he continue's trying to severely injury me and I take him down by killing then so be it BUT it will be in self defence and there's nothing I could have done. If you go about with the intent to kill the bastard who breaks into your house then my friend you deserve to get put away because your a fucking physco who kills people without much cause, no breaking into somebody's house is not fucking cause.

Think about the people you would be 'killing'. There a person just like you and me, you have no idea what drove them to stealing. You have no idea what that person when through in there life and how it's effected them from actually either growthing up normally so they just dont understand its wrong or that they have no choice its either steal or Die. Survival as so many of you Self Confessed Gun Totting, knife wiedling, bat bashing red knuckled physco's have already admitted. Let the Police handly a situtation like that, you pay for it and that's there job to do it for you. I'm sure somebody will point out that the police dont do shit and are useless etc, your a whiner if you think this, there undermaned under-paided fighting against a problem which grow's faster than they can cope and isnt ther only area of concern either. If I need to list them im surprised you can read.

Killing is wrong no matter the Reason. War's may be neccessity of human nature but ever death is a tragic waste of human life whether it be friend or Foe. I would Fight for my country if I had to but I would realise that if I killed somebody I would hate my self for doing it but there's a bigger Cause or Goal to the conflict. To kill somebody simply because they steal your 'itamz' is bullshit. The American law's are insane and you should be glad there not the same, not only would the death toll rise dramatically but it would be just like Buff bot's, everybody would feel the need to get 1 just to 'feel' safe and that leads to lots of death's in your school's , neighbourhoods, your work even on your door step.

Most importantly Ask your self. Could you live with the Death of another human being over a Playstation 2 ? If you could, congradulation's. You just proved your an emtionally detacted Physcopath who's probaly under watch by scotland yard right now .



Yet your stat's are false. The Google 1's ?

US population estimate according to the US Census Bureau is 294,603,438.

pwnd tbh :'(

time for you to understand one very important thing, i could type a long bullcrap story like yours but ill just make one easy sentence to tell the whole thing:

ALL humans view the world differently and have a different set of morals.

infact, to make it even more clear: everyone has his own unique reality

 

[Vindicator]

time for you to understand one very important thing, i could type a long bullcrap story like yours but ill just make one easy sentence to tell the whole thing:

ALL humans view the world differently and have a different set of morals.

infact, to make it even more clear: everyone has his own unique reality

ye you could but that would require some thought then again.

Your statement is an oxymoron so to speak in it's self. Telling me how humans view things differently when I my self portray my own opinion as is understood without having to be explained because this is a forum where opinion's are expressed shared. Then again I could just write a 3 line nothing reply with at the end xD.

It's just funny how some of the 'morals' I mention or describe are whats called The Law. You can try to have a different 'unique reality' all you like but I dont think the judge will listen to that in your Defence

Defendant " I only stabbed him 11 times because he broke into my house, it's my special place and none shall enter without my permission punishable by death when I see fit, your honor"

Judge " Hmm are you sure the doctors didnt diagnoise him clinically insane? "

 

[Mairghead]

In response to the people who think that if your stuff is insured, then you shouldn't care about it, should just replace it and think no more of it, I want to know how many times they've paid insurance premiums or seen the consequences (financial and emotional) of theft.

My ex-fiance's car was once trashed after a wannabe thief couldn't quite manage to get the steering lock off. Instead, he hacked off the entire steering wheel and vandalised what he could - the police think he threw a fit when he couldn't sort the lock out. The car, which we both used to get to work (I was partially disabled), was undrivable but not a write off.

Until the insurance replacement car was approved for the duration of repair work, we saw our commuting time rise by an average of an hour a day, reducing the already meagre "quality time" which we got to spend with each other and creating severe stress for me (it ain't easy riding crowded buses when you are on crutches and desperate to avoid having your feet trodden on). In addition, the insurance excess charges were over a hundred quid - not much to some, but too much for us at the time. All in all it was not a happy experience. If we'd caught the little feckers who caused the mess, you can bet your life we'd not have been saying "never mind, the car is insured, let's just let him go and get on with it".

How much worse is it when someone actually enters your house, invades your privacy and denies you your entirely acceptable right to feel secure in your own home? And if they steal stuff, what then? It doesn't matter if you're insured, you'll probably have to pay excess charges anyway and you could well see your premiums rise afterwards as a result of your claim. Insurers aren't some mystical band of angels who exist just to reimburse people for losses - they run a business and that involves risk analysis and making profit.

You also might not be able to replace a stolen item, even if an insurance company is prepared to foot the bill - things don't have to have "sentimental value" to be irreplaceable. Antiques may be unique. Handcrafted work might have taken literally hundreds of hours to produce. Books may be out of print. There may be other consequences from loss of an item, like the use of my ex's car.

Killing someone simply for attempting to burgle you would certainly be "overkill" and rightly punishable in the courts. Defending yourself with reasonable force if you are in doubt over possible threat to your life, well that's a different thing entirely. Would anyone argue otherwise? Wanting to smash the living daylights out of someone you catch in the act of robbing you, that's human nature. I couldn't do it, I'd be up against the wall in fright because I am a gimp, but I know my partner would have to have his fist surgically removed from a burglar's face if he ever caught one at it. Doesn't mean it's right, but it is a natural response and one which I would understand if not condone.

To be honest, as long as burglars think that they can take from other people, at our physical, emotional and financial expense, the things which they couldn't be arsed to work to achieve for themselves, then they shouldn't really be surprised if they encounter folk who think they need a good kicking.

 

[Marc]

Tony Martin should of been knighted, not banged up

 

[Morchaoron]

ye you could but that would require some thought then again.

Your statement is an oxymoron so to speak in it's self. Telling me how humans view things differently when I my self portray my own opinion as is understood without having to be explained because this is a forum where opinion's are expressed shared. Then again I could just write a 3 line nothing reply with at the end xD.

It's just funny how some of the 'morals' I mention or describe are whats called The Law. You can try to have a different 'unique reality' all you like but I dont think the judge will listen to that in your Defence

Defendant " I only stabbed him 11 times because he broke into my house, it's my special place and none shall enter without my permission punishable by death when I see fit, your honor"

Judge " Hmm are you sure the doctors didnt diagnoise him clinically insane? "

look at what time i posted that, maybe you like typing long stories during the night but i dont...

what you said were mostly your views, expect people to think differently, also expect the 'laws' to be differently in each country

like i said when someone enters my home i dont give a shit about the law anymore, no one can get in here easily anyway unless they use brute force and if someone does i wont hesitate to put him out of comission, like i said i am not gonna take the risk, someone wont smash the frontdoor with alot of noise to take a PS2, enough people have been killed here already by 'burglars' (cant really call that burglars btw) who got spotted by their victims (or making them talk with a knife on their throat find out where they keep valuables)

to me my life is worth more then the risk of ending up in jail for not saying "hi m8 could you leave plz or i call the cops" first, i wont regret anything i do for protecting my life, i never did and ive been through enough violence...
when i hear someone in my house i accept the fact that i can die and no one will be able to help me, maybe he only came for your playstation 2 like you said... well what if he's not, what if he draws and gun and bang you're dead? you wont live to regret it then...

If it had a gun i would point it at him and tell him to fuck off NOW, but unfortunately you cant have a gun here, only criminals can, and thats what makes you so vulnerable when you have to confront a burglar...

and here we are, with different views on extreme situations (with the difference that im not telling what people can or shouldnt do because its right or wrong), in your reality they come for your beloved game console, in my reality they come for me...

 

[Marc]

because where we live 9 times out of 10 they are comming for your games console to sell for drug money. I dont have any statistics but i would hazard a guess that a very small percentage of deaths occur from people being robbed, houses that is, not street muggings and in the UK of course. Because 9 times out of 10 its a little shit who needs smack money and couldnt fight his way out of a paper bag anyway, so hes hardly likely to put up a fight, if you found him in your house. He would just try and run away as fast as possible.

 

[Morchaoron]

it isnt easy to get in my house, more like practically impossible without making alot of noise, a kiddie coming for money to buy weed wouldnt do that...

 

[Jeeves]

I've met and spoken to Tony Martin twice, and when I asked him did he ever fire a warning shot or shout at the burglars to leave, he didn't reply.
Now I'm not saying Tony Martin was wrong, on the contrary, I think he was right for shooting those gypsy peons. However, none of you can say "If someone broke into my house I'd flip out and go into a psycho rage and wtfpwn him" purely because human instinct, something you're all using as your reasoning, is something you cannot know until you feel it.
Also when you consider the majority of burglars aren't your average "internet-game playing roleplayer" and grow up in violent childhoods and know very well how to "look after themselves", to be fair, they stand a better chance of kicking your arse.

 

[Marc]

it isnt easy to get in my house, more like practically impossible without making alot of noise, a kiddie coming for money to buy weed wouldnt do that...

yeah youve told us 20 times, we know, its hard to get into your house, and im not talking about weed, im talking about heroin and if one of these smackheads did fight instead of flight id take him over you anyday. Its all very well saying ive got a sword ive got a baseball bat etc, but as jeeves said, until you are in that situation, you dont know how you would react.

 

[oblimov]

sometimes i wish i lived in china

if this was china the guy would have got a medal and be honoured

These little chav fucks dont respect anyone or anything, they are complete and utter scum and their parents and grand parents and great great great grand parents (who are probably on in their 30s coz these ***** breed like rabbits) are fuckin scum

if i had my way i would go out with a high powered sniper rifle and take out these ***** all day,

BAM ----benefit sponge dead
BAM ----mugger dead
BAM ----doped up fucker who robs houses

If i could get away with it ide run an IQ test against expectant mothers and if they showed any sign of chav fuckerness ide kill them there and then and their unborn crackerspawn fetus

the only problem with this is the majority of these fucks are what the govt aim for, hence all their shite about benefits and tax credits and shit for these fuckin sponges on society

Once b4 in a borders bookshop a **** tried to take my jacket, i kneed him in the nads and kicked utter fuck out him there and then in the shop till the wee **** was crying for help....and then the security guards saw me and told me to stop and they would have a shot of the wee prick downstairs

man i get so fuckin annoyed with the state of this world, i sometimes think a nuclear war to wipe out like 99% of the race and start again would be the best thing

HOwever given that these cracker fucks are everywhere it would probably only be them left

/rant off

 

[Job]

Thanks Ob, damn good rant.
Watched that street crime programme, yes I know it's all edited together, but really some of the things you see make you realise that something seriously amiss is going on here.

Did you see the shop-cam of a black guy who walks into a shop speaks to the young girl assistant, instantly loses his rag like some kinda angel-dusted pyscho, has a lump of concrete in his hand about the size of a Big Mac and throws it at her head from 3 ft away with full force knocking her out cold, he calmly walks out, and another black guy watching just pinches his shopping.
Most people in the shop just walk out without helping it was 8 minutes!!!! before she was helped.
And this was the UK!!!! not the Bronx.

On another note check out this bleedin heart who is complaining about life in Americas toughest prison , he only got 9 1/2 years for drug dealing and is sending crying letters home to his dad in England, as usual the lefty hand wringers from the BBC are giving the little shit some air time.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/3735826.stm

Now that's my idea of a prison, they should vote prison chiefs in over here.

 

[Jeeves]

sometimes i wish i lived in china

if this was china the guy would have got a medal and be honoured

These little chav fucks dont respect anyone or anything, they are complete and utter scum and their parents and grand parents and great great great grand parents (who are probably on in their 30s coz these ***** breed like rabbits) are fuckin scum

if i had my way i would go out with a high powered sniper rifle and take out these ***** all day,

BAM ----benefit sponge dead
BAM ----mugger dead
BAM ----doped up fucker who robs houses

If i could get away with it ide run an IQ test against expectant mothers and if they showed any sign of chav fuckerness ide kill them there and then and their unborn crackerspawn fetus

the only problem with this is the majority of these fucks are what the govt aim for, hence all their shite about benefits and tax credits and shit for these fuckin sponges on society

Once b4 in a borders bookshop a **** tried to take my jacket, i kneed him in the nads and kicked utter fuck out him there and then in the shop till the wee **** was crying for help....and then the security guards saw me and told me to stop and they would have a shot of the wee prick downstairs

man i get so fuckin annoyed with the state of this world, i sometimes think a nuclear war to wipe out like 99% of the race and start again would be the best thing

HOwever given that these cracker fucks are everywhere it would probably only be them left

/rant off

I'd write a long calculated post, but
1) the ads are off soon and my show is back on
2) the three words "you are a twat" pretty much some it all up anyway

 

[oblimov]

I'd write a long calculated post, but
1) the ads are off soon and my show is back on

must be nice to watch trisha sitting on your arse m8

the only people who are against a strictly ran govt like china are usually the ***** who are up to something

 

[Job]

Whats so wrong with Ob's thought Mr Jeeves, God did it in the Bible..you know Noah and the Ark, exactly the same setup, everyone was turning into twats so he picked an elite few and killed the rest.

Bring it on I say, we'll never get anything done, cos you come up with a good idea and half the world chin strokes over it till it won't work anymore.

Religion kept most people in check, now we have thrown in it the bin, all those with no built in moral compass (99% of Chavs) are running amok.

 

[Jeeves]

must be nice to watch trisha sitting on your arse m8

the only people who are against a strictly ran govt like china are usually the ***** who are up to something

So anyone who doesn't agree with violently killing pregnant women that don't pass above a certain IQ are "upto something"? Would that something be "having sense"?

 

[Morchaoron]

yeah youve told us 20 times, we know, its hard to get into your house, and im not talking about weed, im talking about heroin and if one of these smackheads did fight instead of flight id take him over you anyday. Its all very well saying ive got a sword ive got a baseball bat etc, but as jeeves said, until you are in that situation, you dont know how you would react.

haha ive had enough of this crap...
ive been in a situation like that and ive had my share of violence in life and i dont live in a fluffy neighbourhood either. and the 'heroin smackheads' here (of which we have an awful lot) are no match for any trained person, infact most are just utter wrecks but can be dangerous when they come with many...
but i dont mind what people think, if they ever get in a situation like that they will find out tho i hope for them it will never have to come to that...

its pointless talking with people about this when you dont know their background or what they have been through.

 

[oblimov]

An interesting view is also (dont start flaming me lol) that the bible mentions that the "yellow man" will rule the world

Perhaps this is due to the fact that far eastern countries have the strongest sense of honor/discipline/moral code etc left ?

think about it, i read an article before about japanese school children and how many people were worried about their kids as they werent decided over their career in school!!

Whereas this country is currently discussing dropping certain subjects in school because their not popular, maths was not popular at my school but you still need to know how to count ffs lol

 

[oblimov]

So anyone who doesn't agree with violently killing pregnant women that don't pass above a certain IQ are "upto something"? Would that something be "having sense"?

ofc the iq wont be set at a ridiculous ly high level i basically mean that pregnant women should be checked for common sense and decency towards others

The kids learn from their parents and as a result bad parents = bad kids who become worse parents = worse kids rinse repeat rinse repeat

Sterilisation for the less committed people in the country would solve a lot of problems

Think about the amount of money spent in keeping these cracker spawn when we know straight away b4 their out of diapers that they wont be doing anything constructive towards society when their older

OUt of curiosity do you know how much money the Uk benefit system spends on powdered milk?

I read a report from last year and it was around about £50 mill now if you think what that money could have been put towards to aid society as a whole instead of paying for some slapper to feed her crackerspawns she had at 12.

People are no longer ashamed of things anymore

the amount of lassies you see under 18 blatently showing of their pregnant swollen tummies while strutting about going to the pub etc wearing it like a badge of pride is sickening

these are the people i would test prior to neuturing

edit: and when you listen to them on the bus moaning about their benefits forcing them to steal and cheat and lie, when theres people living with disabilities in this country and they get practically fuck all in teh way of help whereas these stupid ***** get rewarded for their stupidity

 

[Jeeves]

I guess there's atleast one difference between you and me then.
I wouldn't test you before I had you neutered and shot.

 

[oblimov]

rofl why? because im one of the people who pays their taxes, has never broken the law, respects other people who show respect to others?

yeah the world doesnt need people like me it needs lefties like you to pamper and caress these poor underpriveleged people who turn on society in reaction to their bad lives

if i have to live in a world where people think like u m8 ide happily load the gun

 

[Jeeves]

respects other people who show respect to others?

So you have to have a high IQ and be extremely educated and intelligent just to respect other people?
When you realise being the next Einstein and having a comprehension of morals are not the same thing, I'll debate with you. :|

if i have to live in a world where people think

Don't worry, you're ok.
You live in Scotland.

 

[Marc]

haha ive had enough of this crap...
ive been in a situation like that and ive had my share of violence in life and i dont live in a fluffy neighbourhood either. and the 'heroin smackheads' here (of which we have an awful lot) are no match for any trained person, infact most are just utter wrecks but can be dangerous when they come with many...
but i dont mind what people think, if they ever get in a situation like that they will find out tho i hope for them it will never have to come to that...

its pointless talking with people about this when you dont know their background or what they have been through.

Its got nothing at all to do with a persons background. What i was saying is that its all very well saying "id stab the cnut if he tried to rob me" after all, its an internet forum but if you were actually in that scenerio could you actually do it? I can look after myself but I know for a fact, I wouldnt be able to kill someone robbing my house. Id probably just say "I dont want any trouble, just take what you have come for and please leave". Why? Cos im not stupid enough to risk the chance that this smackhead is one of the crazy ones who would slit my throat, or come back at me and my family with 20 other smackheads for any beating that I may of given him. You also mention being "trained". Armed services? Self defense? The vast majority of us havent been in the army or do a martial art so dont have that to fall back on and even if you were some sort of Steven Seagal, would you tackle a smackhead brandishing a hypodermic needle? I for one wouldnt.

 

[oblimov]

So you have to have a high IQ and be extremely educated and intelligent just to respect other people?

When did I mention high IQ or extremely educated? I mentioned decency and common sense something I would hope parents/adults would have

Don't worry, you're ok.
You live in Scotland.

Thats right the country that invented the telephone, penicillin, television, the decimal point, microwaves, the steam engine, paraffin, radar and economics to name but a few, aye were stupid

fuckin numpty lol

 

[Marc]

Yeah, lets kill all people on benefits. Cos all people on benefits are lazy good for nothing scroungers yeah?

Get a clue

 

[Jeeves]

Thats right the country that invented the telephone, penicillin, television, the decimal point, microwaves, the steam engine, paraffin, radar and economics to name but a few, aye were stupid

fuckin numpty lol

The inventor of the microwave was born in America.
Arabs and the Chinese were using decimal points long before the western world.
Oh and I obviously must be stupid, as I thought the individual inventors were attributed for those devices you listed, not Scotland.
Oh and btw paraffin wasn't invented, it was discovered. :|

 

[oblimov]

Yeah, lets kill all people on benefits. Cos all people on benefits are lazy good for nothing scroungers yeah?

Get a clue

didn’t say that either rofl

But sadly the majority of people on benefit in this country aren’t on it because of some disability they are on it because they don’t want to work.

benefits have destroyed this country by installing a "take culture" where people expect everything but give nothing

 

[Morchaoron]

Its got nothing at all to do with a persons background. What i was saying is that its all very well saying "id stab the cnut if he tried to rob me" after all, its an internet forum but if you were actually in that scenerio could you actually do it?

do i have to repeat myself AGAIN?