The Great Duelling Event.... TGDE.. .-)

[Yussef]

Think of it like this:

Guild A organises a hunt at location Y at the same time as Guild B, but Guild B was there first and doesn't want to share. Now do Guild A have the right yo pull etc at the same time if there is clearly not enough space etc.

Now:

RvR groups who want to duel get ther first or whatever and effectively camp Emain, do the "RvR'rs" get priority? You say duels are silly because it's not realm vs realm. When will you ever get single person from each realm in one spot. People who interrupted might have been "representing" the realm but the people there beforehand might have been "representing" the realm.

Whats funny is that you go to emain where its all about mez, why not attack enemy keeps or something and take the initiative?

I think it's more honourable to duel than it is for me to wait until the enemy is practically crippled by mez, stun, root. Killing defenseless enemies is not honourable.

The people there might have only had 1 hour's of play and couldn't be bothered to sit in a keep wasting their time, instead they went to have fun in their opinion. Also I was at excalibur myself, I wasnt even at the TGDE!

 

[Uncle Sick(tm)]

Oh Nemesis, mighty twister of words...
I wasn't ranting about your English, was I? I asked what was up with that "u suxx0r whatever" BS "I am the god of Uber" talk.
Got me now?
Me no making fun of your English. Me not even had a clue where you come from. Ok?

And now I am 14 years old.. did you juggle with that magical eight ball again? Do tell.

Bite me.

Thank you for posting it again Lakih... Arranged duels are a nono.
Cheap Rp's that's what it is.

 

[old.Jadow]

Lakih - no one has suggested it's "illegal" just that it's RP farming which is shit. Thanks for that post though by the way, it completely vindicates me of any wrongdoing. I appreciate your support.

Jadow
Lvl 45+ Infiltrator
The Order of The Knights Templar

 

[Myshra]

btw can more runemasters and eldrichs turn up to the next one, wand dueling = the kind between casters

besides, its much better dueling that way then with my spells, theres always teh chance i might miss or proc in melee which i dont get throwing about fire

 

[Luuna]

Organized duelling is not honourable. It is realm point farming. It's only just this side of cheating, as it makes the whole realm point system pointless. It's ridiculous for the same people who come on these boards criticising this or that realm for hiding behind their guards etc etc etc, then come here and criticise people for actually attacking them. You want a game where you get to decide when and where you get attacked and by whom ? Go get yourself a single-player game.

NO, events like this allow people to learn more about other races and classes in the other realms and how to make their battle strategies more effective and thus RvR more fun than a simple whoever-gets-off-the-first-mezz-blood-bath! I'm not crazy about duelling either but when done properly (i.e. not fighting to the death) it isn't RP farming. And lets face it, makes a change to the crap that usually goes on in Emain.

Pathetic, absolutely pathetic. I went around killing people because I detest such things. To make it clear, this is the most pointless exercise ever. I know I was killing the recently rez sick, I did so because that way no one could accuse me of RP farming.

Stop making excuses for your poor behaviour. No one forced you to be there. You acted like a bully, plain and simple.

I'll show you weak and it won't be me.

I rest my case. Another example of someone who thinks his ability to press keyboard buttons makes him superior to others.

Now that is utterly brilliant, dueling at it's best is lame RP farming now you want the ONE solitary reason that we all level up to be put on hold because you want to up your point tally.

Puuuurrrllleeeeeeeeeeaaaaasssssssssseeeeeeee!!!! No one held you up. Get on with your life.

The purpose of this game is realm vs realm combat. Not shit little duels between individuals. The whole point of the game is based upon not even being able to communicate with others in different realms. Where suddenly did this become about 'testing ones skill'?

Well, keep that in mind next time you come across a solo even con while in the frontiers. Duelling is a one-on-one practice, and we wouldn't want you to do that and go against your word now would we!? And if RvR isn't about testing your skills then why bother spending training points. Whoops, there's 47 points in Music wasted! Duh!

You test your skill PvE as you level up, and then exercise that skill against the invading hordes.

RvR and PvE are two completely different tactics. I behave completely differently in RvR than I do in PvE as do most other players.

Well, you pretty much said it. Arranged duels are rp-farming events.. nothing else...

No, they aren't and no, they are not meant to be.

And, duels for like 8h at mmg in emain without _any_mids_screwing it up....that is ........amazing

Funny that, because you didn't mind trying to take out players who were sitting down, getting healed or AFK. Luckily enough there were some players there who had some form of integrity and ganked you everytime you tried to do so, including me who mezzed you 4 times and made you sit in the corner and think about what you had done!

[End of jerk-off's pathetic attempt to get me 'gut' by using a different language. Mr. 26 years-old-god of bad grammar-I-need-to-insult-people-in-my-native-language-because-they-might-not-happen-to-understand-a-frikken-word...well, some do.]

Or perhaps the point Spice was trying to make was that his English is not as perfect as yours because it's not his first language. Oh but no, you're too narrowminded to consider that option. You need to be put down. Someone call the vet.

 

[lakih]

To Jadow:

Lakih - no one has suggested it's "illegal" just that it's RP farming which is shit.

Who said its illegal.... hmm... you? (that was sarcasm not flaming)

Quote of Jadow:

As a point of idealism I didn't actually gank any hibs there, just about 10 or so mids. Still it was ridiculous, not an 'event' simple RP farming, pure and simple, which I may remind you, is against GOA rules. Pratts.

Quote of Aethelstan:

Organized duelling is not honourable. It is realm point farming. It's only just this side of cheating, as it makes the whole realm point system pointless.

So you are saying that duels are rpfarming... wich is illegal... but duals isnt illegal... i dont get it...

by illegal i mean agains GOA rules...

(i hate quotes... but sometimes they work out fine)

 

[Myshra]

i was rooting those who were revenge ganking in the end, if someone killed your mate, then so be it but dont go and get revenge, youll just be laughed at.

btw, for those who were confused about all the actions

/flex & /beckon - challenging
/flex back or point beckon etc... to accept the challenge,

then bow to each other (this is the easiest way i found) then let the battle commence!

 

[Luuna]

Now ...

Many thanks to Jaas who showed me two extremely enjoyable duels. My respect for Albion greatly increased because of his honourable behaviour (even if he did whoop my ass).

Pity Mitsu had to act like such a punk. Grow up.

Also, since I don't specialise in any form of weaponry I realise that any even battles for me would be with mages. So, I challenged what I thought was a theurgist. Turned out to be a Friar. Youch! Won't make that mistake again.

Apologies to the Saracen who got my DD spell at the end of our duel. Genuinely didn't mean to kill you, but was tapping away at the key waiting on the timer resetting. Sorry.

 

[old.Gad]

I was there last night and I thought it was great fun. I have to say though, I only died twice, and I didnt kill anyone at all. That doesn't mean I didnt lose more than 2 fights, or that I won none. It means only 2 people killed me. Most of the fights I had, and tbh most of the fights I witnessed, were not taken to the death. Rather until a clear victor had been established. If it was any different it would have been over pretty quickly, because the Mids only seem to have about 4 rezzers in their whole realm

Duelling like we did last night is fun. It is a break from the XP grind, and a chance to test yourself against enemy characters outside of the hectic adrenaline pumped RvR, where you barely get time to heal before the fight is over. Of course players can come in and start killing indescriminately, and of course they are within their rights to do so. Just as others are within their rights to kill, or not kill an opponent.

It was apparent that a number of Middies were running about killing rezzers and healers as soon as the blue bubbles appeared. This is fine too, and perfectly within the game. It is also perfectly acceptable for those same Mids to get beaten on by a bunch of Albs and Hibs. (You know who I mean Jon ) There is no room for whining here, just do what you wanna do, and accept the consequences. So long as you are not breaking the CoC, Its all good!

Special thanks to Masq and Araudry for some tense fights and to Glyph for teaching me humility (none of these people took our fights to the death btw)

<Bites Sickofit>

 

[Uncle Sick(tm)]

/Sickofit bites back

Now watch it, buddy boy... here comes the rabies...

Thanks for biting me

 

[old.Det]

GJ to the albs and middies who didn't participate in the duals.

You can duel all night as far as I care, but dont come here afterwards and whine because a few ppl decided to play the game like it is supposed to be played.

uke: uke: uke:

 

[old.Andro]

Jadow - so we got a policeman from Albion making sure noone does "realm point farming"! I am sorry to say but what a pathetic attitude you have.

If people wants to duel LET THEM. It seems that your opinion on it is that they ONLY do it for the realm points. Did you ever stop to consider that some (mabye even most) find it FUN?

To me the object of this game is to have FUN! In my opinion you were spoiling that for a quite few people. If you find events like thise lame or whatever your attitude towards them is then just stay away.

Anyway - wasn't there since I opinion on realm point farming leans towards yours. But I would certainly not go ruin it for people that just wanted a few duels. I can imagine that I one day would like to duel someone from another realm one on one - just for FUN!

I once read a short novel (don't remember who wrote it and what it was called). It was about German troups and English troups during World War 1 or 2 (don't remember that either) that stopped fighting for Christmas Evening and instead celebrated it together. They had a FUN nice evening together. The following day they were at war again.

See my point, Jadow?

 

[old.Egar]

Originally posted by Aethelstan
Organized duelling is not honourable. It is realm point farming. It's only just this side of cheating, as it makes the whole realm point system pointless. It's ridiculous for the same people who come on these boards criticising this or that realm for hiding behind their guards etc etc etc, then come here and criticise people for actually attacking them. You want a game where you get to decide when and where you get attacked and by whom ? Go get yourself a single-player game.

What Jadow and any others did was far more honourable and in the spirit of the game than this pre-arranged duelling, which undoubtedly also involved many of the same people who trade accounts, have multiple characters on different Prydwen realms and chat together on IRC (thereby leaking details of raids of one sort or another). This is very clear cut - all those activities listed above go against the spirit and intention of the game. Having an infiltrator kill any enemy he sees is entirely withing the spirit of the game.

If I'd have known there was a large-scale duelling event on, I would have brought the whole guild up there and done everything possible to kill as many unsuspecting Mids and Hibs as we could. Their own stupid fault for expecting anything different.

lol you make me laugh,
no there weren't any dual accounts used here. Our 8 people hibby group were just hunting the amg and mmg and didnt see a single one. Then suddenly 4 mids show up on the other side of the gate.
What happened there was a bit more then just stupid rush in and kill em all cos we would certainly have won. No the idea of chalenging em was much more interesting and i wanted to see how my char does against a single mid.
I can believe you rather use the simple rush in and dont think tactic. We on our side wanted a new experience, no dual accounts here, we just walked slowly in front of them one by one, trying not to agro them. The first contact was a lot of fun, none knew if we would attack them or they would us.


and lol at rpfarming if a lvl 50 killed 1 other lvl 50 i got about 80 rps from it. Wow, thats a lot compared to the fact that everyone in that group had 20000+ realpoints. I would rather call "rushing in and kill 20+ unprepaired mids/albs with good intentions" realpoint farming.

i personally want to have different experiences. The rush and kill tactic is fun but meeting someone and not fighting him knowing they can damn well kill you all is also loads of fun.

But after a while more people came and what started as a normal and fair battle became a buff fest and if you chalenged a tank to battle you had 99% chance of him being full buffed.

Many salutes to the brave mids we dueled there.


Btw, normal duelling isnt much rpfarming, and i dont have a problem with people wanting to interfere, but hell, some alb did this once in a mid-hib battle and got entire mid/hib on his neck and didnt got any help from albs

And if you still dont get it:
let me compair this to something else, when playing football the teams facing each other allways try to win. But there is allways a time when 2 teams get together and play a training match. Same here, we are still killing mids and albs but this time we had somekind of training.

 

[old.Velo]

Its sad to see ppl turn this in to hate/flame thingie..

I actualy had a great time, i couldnt care less about rps (many times we didnt even kill eachother), the ones killing everyone is prob more interested in them...

Anyways, it was a great opertunity to see what the difrent classes could do.

Great event!

it realy felt like the old beta days again.



As for the ppl calling the 100-120 ppl from all the realms dueling and having a great time at mmg lastnight idiots...

It was a nice change from normal rvr, thats all.

 

[old.Tbird]

Originally posted by Noita
Tbird: You wanna play with Drakulvs all day long then you go ahead...turn off alliance chat...there is an option to do this...PM me in game and Ill show you how if you want its really quite simple and if you are in Malmo all day then Alliance chat is basically useless to you anyway cos the information should only pertain to RvR and is of no value at all if you are xping so far away from the frontier. You dont wanna come to RvR and help with taking keeps or reclaiming relics then dont is the answer thats quite simple too. However, when DF is upon us I suspect you and all the other xp farmers will be amongst the first to want to explore this new area and if you aint the dominant keep holder you dont get access to DF. I dont however expect this fact to change anyones mind about RvR, sad as it is some people will always be willing and eager to reap the benefit of others hard work, and by the way...if you feel guilty dont point a finger at alliance and whine that they are making you feel that way, if you feel guilty about something it usually means you have something to feel guilty about. Personally, I reckon your guilt trip says more about you than it does about the Alliance.

Why should I turn off /AS, i've suicided out of a number of locations to defend the realm, capture keeps, etc in fact the reason i'm still in Malm now is because i've rvr'd all the way up from mid 30's and finally at 47 i've decided to make the big push. And as a point turning off AS doesn't work, 2 days ago my entire 16 strong group were pm'd by an alliance leader to suicide out and help defend, are you saying I now have to go Anon just to exp some?

Hey i'm reaping the benefits am I? Glad you told me, the last relic defence I went on cost me and exp death leaving Malm, an exp death in the frontier and 100g/7% exp getting back in the following day, damn i'm so lucky. And no I dont feel any guilt at all no matter how the leaders try to push it on us. But back to the point, on AS last night someone shouted 'hibs at mmg' (no location you note) a leader then responded with 'dont come to emain we are duelling' , fine if you want a private duel that's your right I have no problems but if the alliance is now going to dictate who we can and cannot kill well it wont last very long.

Actually I see a very good analagy here, the duellers are just like the people who buy a single player game and unlock GOD mode as soon as it gets a bit tough, it's too much effort to play the game as intended so just take the easy way out.

Puuuurrrllleeeeeeeeeeaaaaasssssssssseeeeeeee!!!! No one held you up. Get on with your life.

Nothing wrong with my life, whats up with yours? Read the post, then re-read and try to comprehend, one of the Farmers was suggesting that we stop raids during your duels.

 

[j000 d000d]

This is going nowhere.

 

[- Pathfinder -]

RP farming... Funnily enough, most of my duels to the death resulted in either no RP (due to them being recently rezzed) or very poor RP (Oh ye, a lv 20 might find 80 RP incredible, but soloing a yellow in "normal" RvR typically yields over 920). Rather than RP farming, I found it amusing to face off versus the different classes of Mid/Hib, and did duel most of them (Tho some Hib mage beckoned me, and I couldn't find him afterwards ).

Tactically sound to know what to expect from your foes, even thoguh alot of people cheated using PBT etc from their group mates On the whole a nice "event", only had one duel interupted. Special bravery award goes to Death for duelling a cleric

 

[Kerram Darktyde]

If dueling is not against CoC then no problem...

and also if someone or group wants to kill you while you are dueling then they are not griefing or spoiling your fun .. you are on the frontier and are therefore a target....

If you do not want to be attacked do not come to frontier or hold your duel in an out of the way place...

Simple as that no ifs no buts no nothing..

 

[Jaas Mallai]

My 2 pennies worth,

To me me the whole thing felt a bit weird, you know. But I got used to it and I certainly did learn alot about other realms and their classes.

I can also understand people who don't like this sort of thing, and just as it is my right to play how I like, it is their right to play how they like.

Luuna:

I enjoyed our duels, and thank you for being so honourable yourself

Unfortunately the mids came for a relic raid so off I went to defend the realm.

Although as a mage, these duels can be pretty pointless, if I miss my mez its all over for me and if I land it its by no means a certain win.

Spice, thanks for the great duel too, even if you did own me big time.

Froler (I think) thanks for the duel, sorry my pet killed you just before I clicked passive.

I did get a few rps, and I'm sure I gave some up too.

Also to the middie healer (forget name), damn you owned me in such style, well played.

If I didn't know already, I know now that I work better in a group!

For those that found the whole thing to be wrong, get over it, its not the end of the world now is it?

/em salutes all that beat me (most ppl I duelled with )

 

[old.Aethelstan]

Let me be clear about this, as I recognise many contributors to these boards have only a loose grasp of logic and reason. I did not at any point say duelling was illegal. I said it was against the spirit of the game. Killing the enemy on sight is entirely within the spirit of the game. Jadow was entirely within his rights to do what he did, and I and the whole Guild will always back a Guild member who is abused for doing his job.

Realm points matter. They matter because they can be used to claim keeps which give additional abilities after the next patch, and they matter because in the patch after that they will be used to obtain personal skills and abilities. Everyone will want these abilities. The idea is to encourage people to take part in RvR in order to obtain the points. The idea is not that two members of opposing realms can sit in the frontier taking it in turns to kill, rez, kill rez, rinse and repeat until they have the realm points for their abilities having participated in no serious RvR at all.

And as for this cobblers about "improving skills". Improving skills for what ? The only skills which duelling can improve are ...err... duelling skills. Because most RvR takes place in groups and armies, either at keeps or milegates or whatever, and you simply do not come across encounters with just two relatively equal foes of similar class, unbuffed and unsupported. So your duelling is great practice for more duelling, and sod all else.

I personally have no objection to a group or individual coming across another group or individual from a different realm in the frontier and interacting if that's what they wish to do. Christ, it could even be good roleplay to do so. But to arrange a big event either on these boards or over IRC, for the sole purpose of duelling, is lame, in my view. You want to do it, fine, enjoy yourselves, play the game your way. But do not come on these boards, or anywhere else, whining and bitching about someone else who plays the game his way.

My preferred way of playing is taking keeps and hopefully relics. If I launched a relic raid at a time agreed with some Mids, but then other Mids came out and stopped me, I'd look bloody stupid coming on here complaining that people won't let me play the game my way, wouldn't I ? Well all you duellers moaning about being interrupted, take a look in the mirror - that's you.

 

[Nemesis Warlock]

Quote Sickofit:
Oh Nemesis, mighty twister of words...
I wasn't ranting about your English, was I? I asked what was up with that "u suxx0r whatever" BS "I am the god of Uber" talk.
Got me now?
Me no making fun of your English. Me not even had a clue where you come from. Ok?

And now I am 14 years old.. did you juggle with that magical eight ball again? Do tell.

Bite me.

Thank you for posting it again Lakih... Arranged duels are a nono.
Cheap Rp's that's what it is.

--> i didnt duel to death so no Rp ... whats the prob? u think insta mezzing cuz u got luck ur realm got it is any more honorable? This is no real life this is a game made by hands of man and there are always balancing probs and else in it. So if i take ur opinion it would be also cheap RP playing a middie and killing hibs 2 month knowing they r weaker .. ?


Well that was what u said :
Bahahahahahaha... please... send me a decoder sheet before you spew off in dewd next time. Please.

---> I dont know dood thats the way i learned talking and typing by people / magazines ect.

Tell me... all you illiterate kids... what is your problem with putting in some commas etc.?

--> Isnt that exactly making fun of my english ?

"You" instead of "u"... what's the matter with that gibberish crap?
Do you need to drink bong water in order to come up with that craphead alphabet?

-> and that ?

Now go ahead- giv me ur best in kewl doodspeak, r0xx0r man from outer space.

-> provokation from u i never intended to do "dood" or what u call it

Bite me.

--> /em bites sickofit


Well things are easy to see :

I dont know uber talk oder dood talk or what u call it ... i cant even spell one single word in dood and i dont like that speech either so accusing me of using is not right.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oki now lets stop flaming each other, it starts getting out of hand
so declare this issue unrelevant for myself ---> didnt want to hurt anyone. Just got annoyed cuz ur only response was making fun of my english... so lets make peace again now

Ur answer ? ]

 

[old.Tbird]

Originally posted by Pathfinder
RP farming... Funnily enough, most of my duels to the death resulted in either no RP (due to them being recently rezzed) or very poor RP

ROFL I genuinely smiled at that line.

Realm mate: What did you find out about other classes Pathfinder?
Pathfinder: I found out I can kill the newly rezzed 1-on-1.

 

[Brannor McThife]

Originally posted by Det
GJ to the albs and middies who didn't participate in the duals.

You can duel all night as far as I care, but dont come here afterwards and whine because a few ppl decided to play the game like it is supposed to be played.

uke: uke: uke:

Perfectly said Detrim.

As for people chosing not to leave Malm. Well. They have the right to stay there. Simple. Merely spamming ME, who isn't there, with constant "Can you lamers in Malm FFS come help us?!?". Many of them waited a LONG time to get into the "kill zone", and many of them don't play as much as some of us. So, STFU and leave them be.

I spent 3 days doing F-all XP trying to do some RvR? And what did I get? A measly 300 rps and about 20 deaths. Do you think I'd want to go back to RvR instead of getting to L50?

Regardless, had I been playing Glauthrong at said time, and found myself in Emain, I may very well taken the chance to slaughter whomever I could lay my axe on. And should I die? I'd release and come back, over and over. If an enemy, whom my realm is at WAR with, is going to be stupid enough to just sit there, all the more easier it is for me to hit my damage cap and get crits.

Go ahead, duel all you want, but if I find it, it all depends on my mood as to how many I'll kill. Hats off to the Albs, Hibs and Mids that crashed it. You did your realms proud, the honour is yours. To the others, were this an army, I'd have you court martialled for colluding with the enemy.

-G

 

[Luuna]

quote:
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Puuuurrrllleeeeeeeeeeaaaaasssssssssseeeeeeee!!!! No one held you up. Get on with your life.
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Nothing wrong with my life, whats up with yours? Read the post, then re-read and try to comprehend, one of the Farmers was suggesting that we stop raids during your duels.

And you didn't, did you? My point still stands.

As someone correctly pointed out further up this thread, it's impossible to RP farm in duelling, since 95% of the people that are duelling "have died recently and are worth no experience".

I can garauntee that most people there didn't stay for longer than an hour. I certainly didn't. The only reason the duelling went on for so long was because new duellers turned up to have a try themselves. Jeez, if you can't break from the norm of camping and ganking the MG's and playing "the way were supposed to play the game" we'd all go crazy. Judging by this thread some of you already have.

As for those talking about how the duels gave Mids a chance to take Alb keeps. : The duelling didn't give Mids anymore of a chance then they already had. Such distractions have never prevented realms from not taking keeps or defending them and never will. There was a maximum of 20 Albs there, less Midgard and even less Hibs, 85% of all were lvl 45+. before you start pointing fingers at everyone else as to why keeps were taken I suggest you turn to those "responsible" high levels within your own realm first.

 

[Uncle Sick(tm)]

Nemesis

/sigh
Ok, yes- peace now.

But let me tell you one thing (or rather: a few things):
a) I had no idea that you were German, ok? Do you have any idea how many English kids clutter the boards with bad grammar and silly acronyms? "thx" "soz" "u, ur" etc. etc. etc.
I DESPISE THAT KINDA TALK... commonly referred to as: d00d.
I LIKE IT AS MUCH AS A VAMPIRE LIKING TO TAKE A BATH IN HOLY WATER... excuse my 'yelling'. Just trying to hammer my point across.
b) I didn't accuse you of talking 1337 (if you had started.. well...)
c) If you talk like that because you learned it from people in IRC etc. ... So sorry. I ain't Jesus. No weed growing where I walk.
Can't lick my screen and instantly know that you are not a native speaker.
d) May I quote you? Your very first post?
XXXX U ALL!
... you do not call that provocation? Well, I raised a brow and started typing. If you sit in a glass house- don't start throwing rocks at the MENSA troll...

My point is: Take my hand, give a manly man hug and sing feelings together. In other words- yeah, peace, bro'.
See? I can be talked to.

/turns troll mode back on

And now...

bite me

 

[old.Tbird]

Originally posted by Luuna Star
And you didn't, did you? My point still stands.

Spot on, but I was replying to a call from Gombur for a halt on keep takes while you farmed. My point still stands.

Your Quote

There was a maximum of 20 Albs there, less Midgard and even less Hibs, 85% of all were lvl 45+. before you start pointing fingers at everyone else as to why keeps were taken I suggest you turn to those "responsible" high levels within your own realm first.

Velo's Quote

As for the ppl calling the 100-120 ppl from all the realms dueling and having a great time at mmg lastnight idiots

So 20+15?+10? = 45ish maybe? Bit of a difference from 100-120, which one of you needs to visit the optician?

 

[froler]

Originally posted by Luuna Star



And, duels for like 8h at mmg in emain without _any_mids_screwing it up....that is ........amazing

Funny that, because you didn't mind trying to take out players who were sitting down, getting healed or AFK. Luckily enough there were some players there who had some form of integrity and ganked you everytime you tried to do so, including me who mezzed you 4 times and made you sit in the corner and think about what you had done!

erm, i was fighting Luona, and used my mjolnir with ae...u stood to close, thats about it.

In fact i think it was only u who reacted and showed your stupidity by mezz me in a middle of a duel.


nm that, i still had a blast yesterday. i had pretty much enough when i got staff killed thou......

 

[old.HiredGoon]

*browsing past the heated discussion*

I see no real problem in a duel. I see no real problem in someone taking advantage of it, and killing both duelists. i see no problem in anyone taking advantage and keep raiding while it happens.

it all makes RvR interesting. I kind of saw the middies plan, and had /realm on/off every 2 minutes, and the minute it got hot, i told everyone around me, what was happening, and suicided on a enchanter pet (not too difficult )


I never tried dueling before, so i had to give it a go. Was fun, but not something i would spend another evening doing. I find it more fun to surprise attack people.

That said, i can understand why some people like it, be it against the CoC or not.

And middies, i cant stress it enough, nice try on excalibur

 

[Starkill]

Originally posted by Jadow
The purpose of this game is realm vs realm combat.

Where suddenly did this become about 'testing ones skill'?

You test your skill PvE as you level up, and then exercise that skill against the invading hordes. That is the entire purpose of the game.

Beating one another up in some ludicrous attempt to increase your measly realm rank is -not- the purpose of the game.

Jadow
Lvl 45+ Infiltrator
The Order of The Knights Templar

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Some interesting statements but as with any MMORPG, first and foremost it is about roleplay which the devlopers have tried to make as realistic as possible given the constraints of present software. RvR is a part of the game which some players may wish to ignore, it certainly isn't the entire purpose of the game as it states in the manual.

Now seeing as one whole realm is based around the Legend of Arthur and Camelot, a major part of that legend is the role of the knights and it is well documented that tournaments were held frequently. Due to the foresight of Mythic to dispel the "ganking" of lower level characters by the higher levels this is not permitted, which is a good thing. So really to make it a realisitic experience then Mythic should introduce an area in each realm where PvP is permitted. However at the rate patches are being brought into action within europe I think we can count this option out for a long time. The other alternative is to have some moderators overseeing a contest of this sort. Yet again it is such a rare occurence that they are even present again we can count this out. Farnis (a member of my guild by the way) tried to arrange something that many actually view as entertainment, and in my view good on him. Although GOA should be doing more to relieve the tedium which Europe is suffering from at the moment.

You have every right to attend and slaughter a lot of people just trying to have fun as you have stated a few times they are the enemy realm. As for RP farming well lets be honest we all know of or have seen people committing much worse examples.

The game has so much potential to be enjoyable to a broad spectrum of people looking for different things from it. I really dont see what all the outrage is about this. Maybe if Mythic/GOA put a bit more effort into making this the enjoyable experience it should be this discussion would not even be taking place.

Many people seem to be getting increasingly frustrated with the game, frequently venting these frustrations on these forums. Maybe it is about time it was channeled in the direction of GOA or even ultimately Mythic. After lvl 35 ish the game goes very flat leaving people with no alternative but to get involved in RvR which should only be one alternative for those who wish to get involved (personally for the record I enjoy it, when it is organised). After putting so much time into building a character it is dissapointing to find that your only choices are to hit the same couple of hunting grounds repetatively pulling the same mobs or to travel to the frontier and spend half the night running about chasing down reports of enemies spotted. To get around this many people create alternative characters and again with only 4 slots this gets to be difficult, also the tedium of killing Wiley for his boots (a Middy quest) for the seventh or eigth time looses it charm too.

I just think it is a shame that because a group of people actually try to take the lead and organise something that they find entertaining they get flamed. Don't forget everyone is paying good hard earned money for this game and in Europe I feel we are getting a very bad deal. At the end of the day it is about enjoyment and if your idea is ruining other peoples then so be it.

So much has been mentioned by Mythic of forthcoming features but with the present conversion most of us wont see it in our playing lifetime on Camelot. I think Mythic need to step in to get GOA working faster and showing a bit more commitment to events otherwise the migration to SWG and other MMORPG's wil be huge. It would be nice to see people putting as much effort into putting pressure on them to do it as they do into complaining.

 

[Solid]

ROFL @ FlameFest 2002

I was one of the brave Midies that participates in the relic Raid on Excalibur, we had no more than 26 Mids, some well below level 40, and we had a blast, made loads of RP (few thousand which for a tank without speed like me, is damn good).

thast 26 Mids that took 3 alb keeps, last of which got some defenders, not many mind, then we moved to Excalibur and survived for a good 40 mins even tho albs had 30+ defenders and 3 Uber relic guards were popping regularly.

THAT my friends is an achievment
THAT my friends is RvR
THAT is what this game was designed around and I thoroughly enjoyed every second of last nite.

To the duelers, as we have no official stance from GOA or Mythic saying its illegal or against CoC or that you will get banned, we cant tell you not to do it.

I have had 1 arranged duel so far in 4 months play, and it was to the death, just after the Str relics swapped hands, I wanted to see ho much of a diff they make ti my ability to kill, I saw, I learned and i never had a duel since.

Now I would love to have come chucked around a few Mjollnirs at y'all and "farm" my own rp, in legitamate combat vs the enemies of my realm, alas I was busy (read above relic raid )

To Sickofit and Nemesis_Warlock, maybe take your private slagging matches offline next time instead of flooding this thread with offtopic flames?

Jadow Solid /salutes you, If I was you I woulda prolly done the same thing.

Lets get this straight, if you duel, please DO expect some peeps to come mess up your fun, its RvR and seeing as you can only duel in the frontier, and anyone has the right to kill anyone else in the frontier, its a risk you take.

Gombur I assume you comment about no Raids was a joke?, well i hope it was

Next tiem if I aint too busy with a raid I may come along and have some fun of my own (Jadow maybe we can team up eh?, oops is that against the CoC? - bugger )