Politics The General Election 2015

Who will you vote for?!

  • Green Party

    Votes: 7 11.1%
  • Monster Raving Loony Party

    Votes: 3 4.8%
  • Conservative Party

    Votes: 21 33.3%
  • Labour Party

    Votes: 6 9.5%
  • United Kingdom Independence Party

    Votes: 4 6.3%
  • British National Party

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Liberal Democrats Party

    Votes: 4 6.3%
  • Other

    Votes: 3 4.8%
  • None

    Votes: 10 15.9%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 5 7.9%

  • Total voters
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Talivar

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Well as i explained before for me i work in the public sector so it feels like every year i am worse off as i fight for my job and when i dont lose it i end up with a new job that's 2 or more previous jobs combined, for less money. We are soon reaching breaking point with Childrens Services, NHS, ect ect. I just cant stand this crap im spoon fed about being in it all together as that is obviously not true
 

Raven

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It is an awkward truth that there are genetic differences between races. Though I like to think humans will only achieve perfection when we are completely mixed.
 

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It is an awkward truth that there are genetic differences between races. Though I like to think humans will only achieve perfection when we are completely mixed.
I'm not sticking up for the guy at all who is obviously a nasty prick but Islam isn't a race.
 

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I'm not sticking up for the guy at all who is obviously a nasty prick but Islam isn't a race.
Neither is having brown skin; we're all part of the human race.

Trouble is, defining racism on the word "race" is a bit silly. The word means far more than discrimination based on human features. Despite the fact that they're visually identical, an Englishman slagging off an Irishman is clearly racist.
 

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Yes, but we need to invent another word, because racism is far, far more dangerous thing than calling someone a paki and using at such dilutes it's true potential.
 

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It is an awkward truth that there are genetic differences between races. Though I like to think humans will only achieve perfection when we are completely mixed.
There's an amazingly small difference between all of us genetically. Download and listen to the Infinite monkey cage episode podcast on race from a few weeks ago. It's enlightening.
 

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Agree but you only need a slight change in DNA to be quite different.
 

Job

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Look up races, it's not based on any actual science...they still have negroid.
 

DaGaffer

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No such thing as "race"; genetics has completely discredited racial theory; in practical terms all of us who aren't Africans are remarkably genetically homogeneous. All that matters is culture.
 

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Regardless of how meaningless the concept is a race is definately not something you can convert to.
 

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He has refused to state how he might benefit from it too

I wonder whos name its in nowadays
 

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Funny, but to be fair - does anyone here really expect anything other from the vast majority of high-level tories?

I mean, there'll be a smattering of the same in the other parties, but this is the conservative thing. And the voters knew that when they voted them in and either didn't care or, worse, lied to themselves.
 

Raven

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Or, that despite their huge faults, they are far less dangerous than letting Labour in?
 

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Or, that despite their huge faults, they are far less dangerous than letting Labour in?
Not really the point - but if Corbyn got do you reckon he'd shonk the protectorates? I mean, if he managed to boost UK income by the projected £7bn a year that'd be a nice start.

Tories'll never do that. It'd be like punching themselves in the face. And as much as I don't like Corbyn, I really dislike being ruled by people who are fucking us over and laughing about it, whilst blaming us, rather than themselves.
 

Raven

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Yes he probably would but then he would ruin everything else in the process.
 

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Alright I may be wrong about this but here's what I think about this. If David Cameron's father set up a tax fund for international investors in a tax haven, that seems perfectly reasonable to me. After all, if you're a US resident, you pay tax on the profits you receive from that fund the instant they enter the US, right? Same with the UK (I presume). And the same for most people in most countries in the world.

So if you set up that investment fund in the UK, as an investor, you'd pay tax on the profit derived while in the UK, and then more tax once those profits land in whatever country you reside. So you'd be paying two lots of tax. So it makes perfect sense to me to set these funds up in jurisdictions that have very low or no taxes at all - because unless you reside in one of these jurisdictions, at some point, the money you've made from that fund will be taxed.

So if I've got that right, what's the big deal with people doing things like that? Obviously if they're sneaking money out of the country in a mattress in the back of an old XJ400, that's well dodgy. But if they're just availing themselves of a means to not be taxed twice, I don't see the issue - as long as when the money finally arrives at their home, they pay the correct amount of tax there.
 

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Corbyn doing Galastonbury, he really has been in a trotsky bubble if he thinks that festival is anything but a tory, yellow welly fest.
 

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Alright I may be wrong about this but here's what I think about this. If David Cameron's father set up a tax fund for international investors in a tax haven, that seems perfectly reasonable to me. After all, if you're a US resident, you pay tax on the profits you receive from that fund the instant they enter the US, right? Same with the UK (I presume). And the same for most people in most countries in the world.

So if you set up that investment fund in the UK, as an investor, you'd pay tax on the profit derived while in the UK, and then more tax once those profits land in whatever country you reside. So you'd be paying two lots of tax. So it makes perfect sense to me to set these funds up in jurisdictions that have very low or no taxes at all - because unless you reside in one of these jurisdictions, at some point, the money you've made from that fund will be taxed.

So if I've got that right, what's the big deal with people doing things like that? Obviously if they're sneaking money out of the country in a mattress in the back of an old XJ400, that's well dodgy. But if they're just availing themselves of a means to not be taxed twice, I don't see the issue - as long as when the money finally arrives at their home, they pay the correct amount of tax there.
Because rich people.
 

Gwadien

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Alright I may be wrong about this but here's what I think about this. If David Cameron's father set up a tax fund for international investors in a tax haven, that seems perfectly reasonable to me. After all, if you're a US resident, you pay tax on the profits you receive from that fund the instant they enter the US, right? Same with the UK (I presume). And the same for most people in most countries in the world.

So if you set up that investment fund in the UK, as an investor, you'd pay tax on the profit derived while in the UK, and then more tax once those profits land in whatever country you reside. So you'd be paying two lots of tax. So it makes perfect sense to me to set these funds up in jurisdictions that have very low or no taxes at all - because unless you reside in one of these jurisdictions, at some point, the money you've made from that fund will be taxed.

So if I've got that right, what's the big deal with people doing things like that? Obviously if they're sneaking money out of the country in a mattress in the back of an old XJ400, that's well dodgy. But if they're just availing themselves of a means to not be taxed twice, I don't see the issue - as long as when the money finally arrives at their home, they pay the correct amount of tax there.
Because it is a problem, we do lose lots of money out of it; it doesn't matter if it's the big businesses or a small business owner doing it to save a little bit of tax, it's still wrong.

Especially so since the Government acknowledges this, and says they need to do something about it, for David Camerons inheritance being tax free.

Or Immigrants.
 

Tom

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Because it is a problem, we do lose lots of money out of it; it doesn't matter if it's the big businesses or a small business owner doing it to save a little bit of tax, it's still wrong.
It's wrong not to want to be taxed on the same money twice? That's like me paying income tax on my annual profit, and then being taxed at the same rate on my drawings.
 

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There are double tax agreements in place to prevent double taxation.

You would receive a rebate or not be taxed in another country.

So thats not the reason for these havens. The reason is to avoid tax altogether.
 

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