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That's OK. I'd definitely say you were simplistic and prejudiced, so I guess we're even.I'd definitely say you were an apologist, the biggest one I know, frankly.
That's OK. I'd definitely say you were simplistic and prejudiced, so I guess we're even.I'd definitely say you were an apologist, the biggest one I know, frankly.
That's OK. I'd definitely say you were simplistic and prejudiced, so I guess we're even.
From your article:That's nice dear. You're also wrong - http://order-order.com/2016/01/06/mcfadden-sacked-for-saying-west-not-to-blame-for-paris-attacks/
So, according to McFadden at least,
Labour are saying it was serial offending.It was a veiled criticism of Stop The War and thereby Jeremy Corbyn who won't distance himself from STWC when even long-time pacifists and lefties like Peter Tatchell say they are wrong.
As if by magic:It's worth juxtaposing these two things a few times though:
Ken Livingstone.
Defence Review.
Ken Livingstone.
Defence Review.
Ken Livingstone.
Defence Review.
Yeah. But I like this:
I do find it cute that labour are debating such things in full knowledge that it makes no difference, they will never be in power in their current set up.
I'm surprised the Student's Union at Oxford hasn't tried to ban it all as potentially distressing to their students' precious feelings and a violation of their safe-spaces
The IRA methods are not good but is their initial intention really that bad? To be free of what they perceived to be their oppressors
Well its the 100 year anniversary of the 1916 rising so expect a big party in dublin this easter
Does it excuse the ANC's methods?I only mean the original and as you say it still doesn't excuse the methods used
Does it excuse the ANC's methods?
*devilsadvocate*
You could easily argue that without it then apartheid would probably still be in force.No. Terrorist scumbags. Nobody should ever wage a war against the public.
Let's cast out the Normans!Doesnt excuse anyone's methods but the reality is, if people didnt take other peoples land then there would be a much smaller chance of those people doing extreme things to you in retaliation (said very small instead of none as there is always a small minority with an axe to grind, real or imagined)
Its all Cause and Effect
You could easily argue that without it then apartheid would probably still be in force.
Terrorism works. Without the atrocities in SA I don't think the eyes of the world would have been focussed there quite so hard.
I remember reading an article in New Scientist (which I can't find) where some bloke had done the work and found that only when there was a threat of violence do governments really take notice and that peaceful protest rarely works.
I'd agree with you but it's the violence against the public that creates the most terror...Violence against the state or military can be justified in certain situations but not against people trying to buy a newspaper and a tin of cat food.
Yeah. But I like this:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-35242876
Oh, and @Raven:
Beendun, I know. But you've gotta be saying that stuff like, eight times a day, or something...
Violence against the state or military can be justified in certain situations but not against people trying to buy a newspaper and a tin of cat food.
And sitting on my cock will help her?Alanis Morisette wants a word, she's working on lyrics for a new song and wants some inspiration.