Politics The General Election 2015

[Scouse]

Now a senior serving General has said.if Corbyn got in power and tried to downgrade the armed forces or scrap Trident they would probably start a military coup and oust him.
Holy living fuck, I can't believe I'm hearing this stuff.

Military in "if the country democratically decides to vote him in and he decides to make us less powerful then we'll ignore the will of the country" shocker...

 

[DaGaffer]

Now a senior serving General has said.if Corbyn got in power and tried to downgrade the armed forces or scrap Trident they would probably start a military coup and oust him.
Holy living fuck, I can't believe I'm hearing this stuff.

“There would be mass resignations at all levels and you would face the very real prospect of an event which would effectively be mutiny.”

A. Its an opinion
B. Mutiny isn't a coup, its effectively a strike

 

[Job]

Well take it a read it was an opinion, not a policy, but to hear such talk from a serving General is beyond comprehension.
WTF is going on.
If Corbyn is pushed out, that will be pretty well much it for the hard left, their last bullet fired and it may be rather ugly.

 

[Bodhi]

Military in "if the country democratically decides to vote him in and he decides to make us less powerful then we'll ignore the will of the country" shocker...

Aye. Bit like the Unions threatening action to topple the democratically elected current government as they did just after JC was elected, completely ignoring the will of the country at the last election.

Must admit I do like how Corbyn is his own man and tries to stick to his principles, it's just his principles are fucking barking. I half expect one day he'll start wittering on about the harvest and how to optimise tractor production.

A new approach is welcome, policies from 1973, not so much.

 

[Job]

All his convictions and loyalties will be put to test as he starts to contradict himself over and over again, strong personal beliefs are easy when no one asks you to act on them, will you do this? No...but you said in 1996....is he a friend? ..no..here you are hugging with him in 2003

 

[Gwadien]

Aye. Bit like the Unions threatening action to topple the democratically elected current government as they did just after JC was elected, completely ignoring the will of the country at the last election.

Must admit I do like how Corbyn is his own man and tries to stick to his principles, it's just his principles are fucking barking. I half expect one day he'll start wittering on about the harvest and how to optimise tractor production.

A new approach is welcome, policies from 1973, not so much.

I agree too.

It's his focus on wealth inequality which is getting the voters. I don't think a vast majority of people are bothered about renationalising stuff.

Frankly. The best party would be one that is left wing, focuses on wealth inequality and doesn't cut the vital front line services not just police, schools and NHS but stuff like child protection in many aspects, it saves the police so much work anyway.

At the same time this party would see the middle management problem which is ridiculous and I'm unsure why there hasn't been a party to attempt to address this, even in the slightest.

 

[Raven]

Haha, Labour http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...etary-kerry-10515299.html?cmpid=facebook-post Haha.

I do wonder what this stupid bitch thinks would happen to cows, sheep, pigs, chickens etc if everyone turned vegan. They would only exist in a fucking zoo.

 

[DaGaffer]

Haha, Labour http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...etary-kerry-10515299.html?cmpid=facebook-post Haha.

I do wonder what this stupid bitch thinks would happen to cows, sheep, pigs, chickens etc if everyone turned vegan. They would only exist in a fucking zoo.

Soon as I saw her appointment it was blatantly obvious that Labour are in this entirely for the lulz

 

[ECA]

Can I point out that was for an interview months ago for a Vegan life magazine when she was just a backbench mp with no shot of advancement

It's not her policy as shadow cabinet member.

 

[DaGaffer]

Can I point out that was for an interview months ago for a Vegan life magazine when she was just a backbench mp with no shot of advancement

It's not her policy as shadow cabinet member.

I don't care about the article, I care about the fact that a militant vegan got that particular gig; it's absolutely doolally. Its like giving Defence Secretary to a Quaker or Foreign Secretary to an avowed Xenophobe.

 

[Gwadien]

Bit like our Secretary of State of Work and Pensions?


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eHzg7IRLgY

 

[Ormorof]

I don't care about the article, I care about the fact that a militant vegan got that particular gig; it's absolutely doolally. Its like giving Defence Secretary to a Quaker or Foreign Secretary to an avowed Xenophobe.

In Finland the previous government had a nutjob christian as minister of state who stated the law of the bible overrules the law of the land

Now se have a foreign secretary whos party believes that a war is coming between whiteys and colonials

 

[Gumbo]

From the latest Ipsos Mori report.

"Jeremy Corbyn’s first satisfaction rating is minus 3 (33% are satisfied with him as leader, 36% dissatisfied). At first glance that isn’t bad – it’s a better net rating than Cameron or the government! In a historical context though it’s not good. New leaders normally get a polling honeymoon, the public give them the benefit of the doubt to begin with and Corbyn’s net rating is the worst MORI have recorded for a new leader of one of the big two parties (the initial ratings for past party leaders were Miliband +19, Brown +16, Cameron +14, Howard +9, IDS 0, Hague -1, Blair +18, Smith +18, Major +15, Kinnock +20, Foot +2)
Looking at the more detailed questions on perceptions of Jeremy Corbyn his strengths and weaknesses compared to David Cameron are very similar to the ones we got used to in Cameron v Miliband match ups: Cameron scores better on things like being a capable leader, good in a crisis, sound judgement; Corbyn scores better on being in touch with ordinary people, having more substance than style and being more honest than most politicians. Asked overall who would make the most capable Prime Minister Cameron wins by 53% to 27%.
Of course, all of Jeremy Corbyn’s ratings need to be seen in the context that he is very new to the job and the public don’t know a whole lot about him beyond the initial negative press. Early perceptions of him may yet change. His figures may get better… or worse.
MORI also asked about perceptions of the Labour and Conservative parties, and here the impact of Corbyn’s victory on how the Labour party itself is seen was very evident. The proportion of people seeing the party as divided is up 33 points to 75%, extreme is up 22 points to 36% and out of date is up 19 points to 55%."

 

[Scouse]

Haha, Labour http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...etary-kerry-10515299.html?cmpid=facebook-post Haha.

I do wonder what this stupid bitch thinks would happen to cows, sheep, pigs, chickens etc if everyone turned vegan. They would only exist in a fucking zoo.

Click on the question on the bottom of the article m8. You'll be surprised.

 

[DaGaffer]

Click on the question on the bottom of the article m8. You'll be surprised.

Not really, its idiotic Indo readers. Raven is right; arable farmers are the worst when it comes to biodiversity.

 

[Talivar]

So the election has come and gone and a few months have passed with various policies and budgets ect announced and explained. Has any of this made anyone here's life better or worse so far?

 

[Raven]

Better, business is booming still (industrial construction industry)

 

[Talivar]

No change since elections for me for better or worse, we had email saying local council cuts are coming but no indication what services it will involve yet so maybe it wont involve me this time

 

[Raven]

We have increased our workforce by about 5-10% in the last year.

Which was the aim of the Tories, get people into the private sector and getting the economy going.

 

[Talivar]

We have recruited a couple more people in last few months as we are overwhelmed by demand so hopefully that is a good sign they dont intend to cut us again

 

[Wij]

Fine for now but fuck those Dividend taxes next year

 

[Gumbo]

People seem to have a bit more spare money and the confidence to spend it on boats and boating. We're not overrun, but we have seen an upswing. I'm definitely in the "It's going in the right direction, please don't lets fuck it up" camp.

 

[Scouse]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESIJ_C9mUBI

 

[Talivar]

Whats everyone's predictions on the fallout or lack of it from the tax credit cuts and the letters families will soon be receiving to explain it?

 

[Raven]

It's going to suck for a lot of people and it won't actually save all that much really.

 

[Job]

90% of the people I know are broke are simply living beyond there means, FFS I worked with a room full of guys who earned 35K and were broke, they used to borrow money out of the teaclub half way through the month.
Everyone does it from the bottom to the top and handing out money simply get's them better things, tax credits, two cars, two holidays a year, eat like kings.
No ones going to starve, they'll just have to cut back on non essentials.
If you have fuck all left after paying the mortgage/rent, bills, travel and food, then you live in too big a house or expensive area.

 

[Talivar]

The bit that really annoys me and this goes for all parties is the way they promised in the build up to voting day that tax credits would not be cut at all. There really should be some form of punishment for what was really false advertising to sway votes

 

[Raven]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34439965

At first I thought it must be some sort of satirical piece...

 

[Scouse]

At first I thought it must be some sort of satirical piece...

Tories being themselves now they can. And you're surprised?

Labour are a bunch of cunts. We both agree on this. But the Tories are monsters.

 

[Raven]

It was the taxpayers alliance, not the Tories that said it

But yeah, still least shit though.