Politics The General Election 2015

[Raven]

I don't like her but I'd love to see the context of that quote...

It was a tweet regarding people in power. The context is irrelevant.

 

[caLLous]

Umunna has gone too. Corbyn's running out of known names in his shadow cabinet.

 

[Gwadien]

Umunna has gone too. Corbyn's running out of known names in his shadow cabinet.

Isn't that kind of a good thing in some respects?

I mean, many of the people that were in the shadow cabinet were associated to Blair and to Miliband.

Although they have given Diane Abbot a position in the shadow cabinet..... :/

 

[Scouse]

The context is irrelevant.

I doubt that very much.

 

[Gwadien]

I kind of like the fact that he's clearly making his own cabinet, as opposed to the party making it for him.

You must give x a job! etc, although he hasn't got much choice.

 

[Gwadien]

I'm not naive, I do understand that the likelyhood of Labour winning the next election is next to nil, but it will be interesting to see if they manage to take any votes of the Tories, because people are abandoning the idea that Labour ruined everything, that immigrants are to blame, and that the way forward is to cut all the front line services.

Hopefully, it'll cause the next Labour lot to become slightly more left wing than they were under Milliband, rather than going for the tory-lite route.

I guess it's the only way they'd get back into power, since the reason the Scots don't like Labour is because of their Tory-lite approach.

 

[caLLous]

...people are abandoning the idea that Labour ruined everything

They are?

Milliband standing up on Question Time and refusing to acknowledge that the Labour government had overspent was bordering on criminal.

 

[throdgrain]

It's a disaster, we might end up with 10 years of Tory rule, which even I think can only lead to John Major-style complacency and nepotism. On the plus side, I'm sure UKIP will get some votes from that lefty retard Corbyn.

 

[Scouse]

They are?

Milliband standing up on Question Time and refusing to acknowledge that the Labour government had overspent was bordering on criminal.

Not really. Labours spending was nothing to do with the crash.

 

[caLLous]

Labour's overspending didn't cause the crash but it had the country as a whole in a far worse position to deal with it.

 

[Scouse]

Labour's overspending didn't cause the crash but it had the country as a whole in a far worse position to deal with it.

Not really. I don't think it affected much either way.

 

[Gwadien]

Labour's overspending didn't cause the crash but it had the country as a whole in a far worse position to deal with it.

Frankly, I think it's been amazing blown out of the water.

If they didn't spend like they did, then they wouldn't have been re-elected like they were, and have the 'golden era' under Blair.

Equally, if the Tories absolutely fuck the country up doing 'what they have to do' - in 10 years time, the question will be 'Did the Tories need to fuck up the Country THAT much?'

It's a change of culture in politics what we need, not blaming the last thing every time.

 

[DaGaffer]

Not really. I don't think it affected much either way.

Of course it did. It meant that when the crash happened the deficit was much worse. Problem was Brown wanted an EU state structure with American levels of tax. You can't square that circle. Labour was running an increasing deficit during a boom, when other countries that have a greater degree of economic common sense specifically have legislation that bans that (Sweden for example, who weathered the crash far more effectively than the UK).

 

[Zarjazz]

He pulled out of Andrew Marr on Sunday, and the Today program today. I can't believe anyone can be taken seriously who is running scared after 2 days in the job.

He didn't pull out, he never accepted them in the first place. That's not exactly running scared. It's obvious he's going to manage the media very differently to, well, everyone else before. The first (and afaik only) interview he gave after winning was to Newsbeat to thank all the youth voters. Very, very different.

 

[Gumbo]

He was on the schedules for the Andrew Marr show. He had accepted.

 

[Job]

His economic minister has openly said he would like to see the end of capitalism.

People say the Tories should softly, softly their response...but holy fuck, there is so much fantastic material...who could resist.

 

[ECA]

What is it about Australia where their parties are happy stabbing their leaders in the back?

They just deposed and replaced their PM of 2 years, after the previous government switched PM twice in one term before that election.

 

[DaGaffer]

What is it about Australia where their parties are happy stabbing their leaders in the back?

They just deposed and replaced their PM of 2 years, after the previous government switched PM twice in one term before that election.

A very nasty political climate in Australia; been like that for a long time. Mind you, Tony Abbott seemed like an absolute moron to me, so maybe its for the best.

 

[old.user4556]

Who?

 

[Job]

This Conservative scare video is basically bollocks...but never understimate the idiocy of the electorate.
Surely this out of context claptrap should blow up in their faces...but probably not.

Labour: a threat to our national security:
View: http://youtu.be/_hgJokgNJHo


Just noticed it's allready had 2K dislikes against 350 likes.

 

[old.user4556]

Jeez.

Good luck with all this you guys.

:THUMBSUP:

 

[Gumbo]

Hehe, Corbyn has appointed a Vegan as shadow Defra minister. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...n-to-deal-with-britains-farmers-10500157.html

He might be a different kind of politician, but politics is still politics. It hasn't changed much since it was invented, so I don't think Corbyn can change it overnight.

He has no idea, no idea at all. It's like we're in the middle of some weird Channel 4 re imagining of our country.

 

[throdgrain]

A vegan in charge of Defra? Looks great ..

 

[caLLous]

The ending is quality.

 

[Scouse]

A vegan in charge of Defra? Looks great ..

Do eating habits mean that much?

 

[throdgrain]

Yes when you're in charge of farming , which obviously includes livestock and pest control, things that a vegan is obviously vehemently opposed to.


(Don't bother answering, or accepting that I'm right, just type something else )

 

[Wij]

Probably into 'organic' farming or some such nobrot?

 

[Raven]

Gluten free tofu cows.

 

[Gwadien]

The ending is quality.

I love him.

 

[Zarjazz]

Do eating habits mean that much?

Well I hear cannibals aren't welcome, even at a farmers market.