Old and short, no wonder I'm grumpy!
- Dec 14, 2003
I don't think you can in this case @Jupitus. It's not a 'football' issue.
I am not saying I disagree with that, but I think this should remain as a football thread, and those kind of comments end up spinning off viciously into multiple long-winded chains of unrelated materials. By all means, bring up the football situation as an angle in a politics thread, or indeed create a new thread about the politics of football and its implications as a possible influence on many generations over the years.... thanks!I don't think you can in this case @Jupitus. It's not a 'football' issue.
The football problem is just a manifestation of a wider problem. If people want to focus on football alone then they're making a mistake. The politics issue is relevant to the football thread - because it's the only route to really actually fix the football issue properly.
No man is an island etc. etc. etc.
I mean that posts which are directly about football clubs, people governors and actions taken or comments made then this is definitely the place. Posts which talk about parallels outside of football may tend to tangent, so I would prefer they are avoided. I hope that explains and closes this particular line of discussion. Thanks all.....This'll be my last post on it @Jupitus, promise - but what you're saying there is if you want to discuss why football is in such dire straights and understand football's ills and the methods to fix football then you have to talk about it in a "not football" thread because it's upsetting people who actively want to pointlessly shout at the wind.
First of all, ouch.He's got experience working at a small team now, so he might do OK at Roma, as they look a bit of a shambles atm.
Surely then the ESL is the prem?So with an all English Champions League Final and the potential of an all English Europa League final, where's the good money on who plays in the Super Cup. An all Manchester game, All London Game or what ?
Madrid were bang average tonight, not taking anything from Chelsea, good age for a squad that and a great mix of youth and experience.
Trouble is, the reason it came about in the first place is Perez and others worrying about falling behind the English teams because of the money in English football. This just proves the point, and fans of "the big 6" will just carrying on acting like everything is OK, whilst clamour for a super league grows in Europe.Obviously as a fan of one of the top clubs in European football, I can't agree with the second bit.
It's a joke. VAR could be so good, but the level of incompetence of referees has hamstrung it completely.Also, it looks like you were right about Vestergaard's red. If only there was some way they could make a correct decision during the match. Some sort of review system with the assistance of video perhaps.
Nah, the fact that RM and Barca used to leech all the money out of Spanish football through their own independent TV deals and now they can't; the fact that the Madrid Council used to regularly write off their taxes and now they can't, the fact that the sports players tax exemption has been stamped out by the EU, are all reasons why RM profitability has been hit; its not the English teams having more, its RM and Barca being forced to behave that's fucked them up. Pères and pals would like to return to the good old days of lack of accountability.Trouble is, the reason it came about in the first place is Perez and others worrying about falling behind the English teams because of the money in English football. This just proves the point, and fans of "the big 6" will just carrying on acting like everything is OK, whilst clamour for a super league grows in Europe.
Balbuena got a straight red for this - a follow-through which caught Chilwell. The ref was told he needed to go and look at the monitor:It's a joke. VAR could be so good, but the level of incompetence of referees has hamstrung it completely.