Football The 2020/2021 Season Thread

[Aoami]

He may "win something" at every club he goes to, but he also leaves behind massive wreckage behind when it all goes titsup (as it always does by season 3), and he usually spends a ton of money doing it, which rather flies in the face of any idea that Levy had about his just picking up Pochettino's team; the seeds of disaster are there from day 1 if Mourinho can't bring in the usual Mou formula players (tall and bulky basically).

Now Levy will have to get rid, pay him off AND still have an even bigger rebuild thanks to all the players Mourinho has made worse. This is the danger with hiring Mourinho, you get one or maybe two good seasons for 3-5 years of damage.

Chelsea won the league the season after Mourinho left, United second in the league 2 seasons after Mourinho left, Real won 3 champions leagues in the 4 years after Mourinho left. Where do people get these opinions from?

 

[Aoami]

Uefa furious at clubs' breakaway plan

Senior Uefa figures are furious after discovering that 11 major European clubs, including five from England, have signed up to a breakaway European Super League.

www.bbc.co.uk

Colour me shocked. Good riddance I say. Feel sorry for the local fans but unfortunately the clubs want to have their cake and eat it too.

 

[Raven]

Uefa furious at clubs' breakaway plan

Senior Uefa figures are furious after discovering that 11 major European clubs, including five from England, have signed up to a breakaway European Super League.

www.bbc.co.uk

Colour me shocked. Good riddance I say. Feel sorry for the local fans but unfortunately the clubs want to have their cake and eat it too.

'However, world governing body Fifa has already said it would not recognise such a competition and any players involved in it would be denied the chance to play at a World Cup.'

It could get very messy, depending on FIFA and whether they capitulate. I imagine brown paper bags stuffed with 50s will change hands like it does on the delivery of world cups.

 

[Embattle]

I don't like it but then I'm not a fan of FIFA and UEFA either, I would tell those clubs who take part to never fucking moan about fixture congestion again and also I wouldn't make any accommodation for them at the domestic level as well....if it goes ahead.

 

[Gwadien]

I don't like it but then I'm not a fan of FIFA and UEFA either, I would tell those clubs who take part to never fucking moan about fixture congestion again and also I wouldn't make any accommodation for them at the domestic level as well....if it goes ahead.

Meh, I can see a future of football where there will be massive super teams with multiple squads playing a match near enough every day.

 

[Raven]

Gary Neville putting the boot in. Great stuff.

 

[Aoami]

It could get very messy, depending on FIFA and whether they capitulate. I imagine brown paper bags stuffed with 50s will change hands like it does on the delivery of world cups.

As if FIFA will ban all the biggest name players from it's show peice competition

 

[Aoami]

Genuinely can't wait for all the money clubs to fuck off so we can finally draw the line between sports and American style corporate franchise bullshit

 

[Embattle]

As if FIFA will ban all the biggest name players from it's show peice competition

I reckon there is a good chance they will.

 

[Aoami]

I reckon there is a good chance they will.

Fine. They're already seen as a joke anyway. Ban players cos their clubs have done something without their say, but world cups in Qatar and Russia = fine.

 

[Aoami]

View: https://streamable.com/n3zqnz


Glad big names are waking up to it, but he is complicit.

He works for the company who fostered the breakaway of football clubs from the football league for nothing other than greed.

 

[Embattle]

View: https://streamable.com/n3zqnz


Glad big names are waking up to it, but he is complicit.

He works for the company who fostered the breakaway of football clubs from the football league for nothing other than greed.

That isn't the same, you can still get into the PL and be relegated from it as well.

 

[Aoami]

That isn't the same, you can still get into the PL and be relegated from it as well.

Obviously it's not the same, but it's what set European football on this slippery slope.

 

[caLLous]

There was apparently supposed to be a joint announcement from the 6 English clubs at 10:30 but they've bottled it so far. I can't imagine that they didn't see this reaction coming.

 

[Aoami]

View: https://mobile.twitter.com/bglendenning/status/1383819267062132744?s=20

 

[Aoami]

Leading European football clubs announce new Super League competition

Liverpool Football Club can confirm that we have joined Europe's leading clubs in agreeing to form a new competition, the European Super League.

www.liverpoolfc.com

No longer just a rumour

 

[caLLous]

Fucking hell this is a dark day.

 

[DaGaffer]

Leading European football clubs announce new Super League competition

Liverpool Football Club can confirm that we have joined Europe's leading clubs in agreeing to form a new competition, the European Super League.

www.liverpoolfc.com

No longer just a rumour

That doesn't read like a US style franchise model; it still assumes teams play in their existing leagues and there's a promotion model. It looks mainly like a direct threat to the CL:

• 20 participating clubs with 15 Founding Clubs and a qualifying mechanism for a further five teams to qualify annually based on achievements in the prior season.
• Midweek fixtures with all participating clubs continuing to compete in their respective national leagues, preserving the traditional domestic match calendar which remains at the heart of the club game.
• An August start with clubs participating in two groups of ten, playing home and away fixtures, with the top three in each group automatically qualifying for the quarter finals. Teams finishing fourth and fifth will then compete in a two-legged play-off for the remaining quarter-final positions. A two-leg knockout format will be used to reach the final at the end of May, which will be staged as a single fixture at a neutral venue.

 

[Aoami]

It's been coming for a long time. As I said earlier in the thread, fuck the money clubs, they don't give a fuck about you. Non\Lower-League all the way.

 

[Aoami]

That doesn't read like a US style franchise model; it still assumes teams play in their existing leagues and there's a promotion model. It looks mainly like a direct threat to the CL:

• 20 participating clubs with 15 Founding Clubs and a qualifying mechanism for a further five teams to qualify annually based on achievements in the prior season.
• Midweek fixtures with all participating clubs continuing to compete in their respective national leagues, preserving the traditional domestic match calendar which remains at the heart of the club game.
• An August start with clubs participating in two groups of ten, playing home and away fixtures, with the top three in each group automatically qualifying for the quarter finals. Teams finishing fourth and fifth will then compete in a two-legged play-off for the remaining quarter-final positions. A two-leg knockout format will be used to reach the final at the end of May, which will be staged as a single fixture at a neutral venue.

It's ring-fencing the CL for the elite few, essentially. That's how I read it anyway.

 

[caLLous]

That doesn't read like a US style franchise model; it still assumes teams play in their existing leagues and there's a promotion model. It looks mainly like a direct threat to the CL:

• 20 participating clubs with 15 Founding Clubs and a qualifying mechanism for a further five teams to qualify annually based on achievements in the prior season.
• Midweek fixtures with all participating clubs continuing to compete in their respective national leagues, preserving the traditional domestic match calendar which remains at the heart of the club game.
• An August start with clubs participating in two groups of ten, playing home and away fixtures, with the top three in each group automatically qualifying for the quarter finals. Teams finishing fourth and fifth will then compete in a two-legged play-off for the remaining quarter-final positions. A two-leg knockout format will be used to reach the final at the end of May, which will be staged as a single fixture at a neutral venue.

They're assuming that there won't be repercussions - expulsion from those domestic leagues, bans on players from those teams playing in international fixtures etc.

 

[Aoami]

Expulsion from domestic leagues is probably what they want so they try and play the victim. Can't put anything past these cunts.

 

[caLLous]

I don't like it.

 

[Gray]

I remember this being talked about for the past what, 15-20 years? I remember even trying to model a game of Championship Manager around it but what a mess it was...

I always thought their idea was to remove themselves entirely from the domestic leagues/cups and European competitions and play completely in their independent league. But it sounds like they're trying to bake their cake and eat it wholly without any consequences to their league standings.

I can't see it happen - If by some wayward miracle it does happen then any player(s) who play for the team(s) should be blacklisted from being able to be transferred to any conventional league. How will the "Super League" clubs survive if they're like Chelsea who loan out every youth player. It may well cause backlash with the teams players as well knowing this would risk their chances of playing internationally.

 

[Gray]

View: https://imgur.com/1A6PbhB

 

[Ormorof]

They're assuming that there won't be repercussions - expulsion from those domestic leagues, bans on players from those teams playing in international fixtures etc.

With world cup cheapened by handing it to whoever bribes best and in danger of boycott with latest it may lead to WC not being valued as much anymore, already seen in other sports. Ice Hockey for example players opt out of playing internationally if their team is in NHL playoffs which usually clash with World Championship

 

[Gwadien]

I'm with @Aoami on this one.

Sure it's greed but when the existing organisations are corrupt old boys clubs, I have very little sympathy.

Even Boris weighed in, probs because he doesn't have any mates involved in it, but I'm sure if they decided to cut the old boys in then they'd all change their tune.

 

[DaGaffer]

It's ring-fencing the CL for the elite few, essentially. That's how I read it anyway.

That's how I read it as well, but the narrative in the media was they were all fucking off from their domestic leagues. This is somewhat different. Still greed, but they're not wrecking domestic football.

UEFA are the ones who are most threatened by this; its taking away the crown jewels.

 

[Raven]

To play devils advocate a little.

If the big 6 did all get chucked out of the prem (not going to happen) then it would result in a league that is much more competitive for the not so well off clubs, but it would likely result in Everton or Leicester winning the prem year in year out instead of City/Chelsea etc and really, nothing massive would change that much for supporters of lower league teams.

 

[Gray]

We'd still get beat by the newly promoted teams so hovering around mid-to-upper.