Football The 2013 / 2014 Season Thread

[caLLous]

concede*

 

[Embattle]

Irritating because they are a club with a bit of history upsetting the money boys who would have been championship at best without a billionaire owner?

Technically we were well placed before our billionaire arrived to remain in the PL, also they've got there own billionaire now as well.

Ah, facepalm! Soild argument; I conceed to your superiority!!!

Indeed you should.

 

[Scouse]

He has managed to adapt but what will happen next year, who have you got who can replace him?

Same again thanks Stevie. He's still got plenty of legs for a few years in that position.


BTW - @gohan's right - nothing's changed. We still need to Win 3, Draw 1 to guarantee it.

Shitty have a better goal difference and a game in hand. If we lose to Chelski it means we'll have to absolutely batter the other teams to beat City - and City are more than capable of doing that if they get a whiff of the title again.

So yep. No change. Need to not lose any of the games and win at least 3 of them.

 

[gohan]

concede*

Die!

 

[Embattle]

Same again thanks Stevie. He's still got plenty of legs for a few years in that position.


BTW - @gohan's right - nothing's changed. We still need to Win 3, Draw 1 to guarantee it.

Shitty have a better goal difference and a game in hand. If we lose to Chelski it means we'll have to absolutely batter the other teams to beat City - and City are more than capable of doing that if they get a whiff of the title again.

So yep. No change. Need to not lose any of the games and win at least 3 of them.

If you were just playing the domestic competitions then yes but with the European ones as well?

My issue isn't about what Liverpool need to win and I'm perfectly willing to accept Chelsea have chance to beat Liverpool and that if we do it helps Man City but the idea Liverpool are some how the underdogs in our encounter is utterly preposterous.

I also feel we are in for a rough end of season, besides Liverpool and our European games we play two teams fighting for there PL survival and I can feel something similar to today happening again.

 

[gohan]

If you were just playing the domestic competitions then yes but with the European ones as well?

My issue isn't about what Liverpool need to win and I'm perfectly willing to accept Chelsea have chance to beat Liverpool and that if we do it helps Man City but the idea Liverpool are some how the underdogs in our encounter is utterly preposterous.

Yet no one has used that word. At all. Ever. In the history of mankind. infact I'm fairly sure you've just made this word up.

 

[Scouse]

If you were just playing the domestic competitions then yes but with the European ones as well?

...the idea Liverpool are some how the underdogs...

I don't give a monkeys about the European competitions - Liverpool aren't in them. I'm talking about the Premier League - and Gohan's analysis was correct - we need to Win 3 Draw 1 to guarantee a win - so Chelski's loss today hasn't changed that one bit.

I'm also not saying Liverpool are underdogs - and I don't think anyone has. We're favourites for the title - and rightly so. But I think the match against Chelski will be a draw and I'm worried about Norwich tomorrow tbh.

And why not? Chelski just lost their massive unbeaten run to the bottom of the table team, City drew with them. Norwich are fighting for survival too...

 

[Embattle]

I don't give a monkeys about the European competitions - Liverpool aren't in them. I'm talking about the Premier League - and Gohan's analysis was correct - we need to Win 3 Draw 1 to guarantee a win - so Chelski's loss today hasn't changed that one bit.

Think you've got the wrong end of my question, my comment was about SGs ability to play in all competitions next year including European ones and utterly nothing to do with this years remaining games.

 

[Scouse]

Think you've got the wrong end of my question, my comment was about SGs ability to play in all competitions next year including European ones and utterly nothing to do with this years remaining games.

We've not got the squads of Chelski or City so yep, we lack strength in depth and will need to buy to rotate.

However, Chelsea don't look the same without Hazard, City without Yaya, Aguero and Silva (but they've got an even bigger embarrasment of riches than Abramovich's boys).

As long as LFC focus on the League then anything else is a bonus for now tbh. We were nearly out of business 3 years ago and are still recovering from that remember...

 

[soze]

...and struggle to keep hold of who exactly? Sturridge will stay without a doubt, Sterling will stay without a doubt and to get Suarez away after his recent contract extention will probably cost 100mil. That's 100mil to buy a replacement plus shore up the defence, which is Liverpools only real weakness, and not that much of a weakness to be honest.

Outside of the PL Suarez will cost less after his contract extension. Before the wording on his release clause meant they could reject it as they did with us. Now it is iron clad at £60?m if Real or PSG ect want him. I love the way they are playing but Liverpool will be as bad as Arsenal as they have less money. If the big boys want the players they will go. The owner is there to make money.

 

[Embattle]

We've not got the squads of Chelski or City so yep, we lack strength in depth and will need to buy to rotate.

However, Chelsea don't look the same without Hazard, City without Yaya, Aguero and Silva (but they've got an even bigger embarrasment of riches than Abramovich's boys).

As long as LFC focus on the League then anything else is a bonus for now tbh. We were nearly out of business 3 years ago and are still recovering from that remember...

Hazard has had too much to do to make up for striker shortfall and it is surprising he has lasted this long without injury considering the chunks that get taken out of his ankles during games. I think we will get at least a striker this summer and not loan out a couple of our players again.

Man City are bound to spend another bucket load but I'm waiting to see what happens to them and PSG over the FFP, this is the first real acid test for UEFA.

Ironic that doing so badly one year and thus avoiding the UEFA cup competition has probably helped you this year, makes me wonder if other teams will try and avoid it which could get interesting

 

[soze]

If I could have any of the players on the player of the year list for next season it would be Suarez so he is my pick, simple fact is you put Suarez in any other team in the top 4 and they would be 10 or 15 points clear and Liverpool would be behind Spuds.

Based on the whole season I would rate Yaya over Gerrard. Yaya is a rock and Stevie G has had a few dodgey games adapting to this role. If he stays there next season he will be epic and I doubt he will have any trouble playing every game as long as he avoids injury. His fitness seems to be top notch and sitting back means he is not running 20 miles a match.

 

[soze]

Ironic that doing so badly one year and thus avoiding the UEFA cup competition has probably helped you this year, makes me wonder if other teams will try and avoid it which could get interesting

I still maintain that competition killed Spuds again this year. So I agree if you miss the Champions League you are better off avoiding Europe.

 

[Raven]

If you were just playing the domestic competitions then yes but with the European ones as well?

My issue isn't about what Liverpool need to win and I'm perfectly willing to accept Chelsea have chance to beat Liverpool and that if we do it helps Man City but the idea Liverpool are some how the underdogs in our encounter is utterly preposterous.

I also feel we are in for a rough end of season, besides Liverpool and our European games we play two teams fighting for there PL survival and I can feel something similar to today happening again.

Nobody has said they are underdogs, they aren't. They are a far better side than Chelsea. The difference is they didn't cost 250mil to put together.

Chelsea speant 40 million on a midfielder that they didn't really need this season, just to piss off Spurs, it will be interesting how they try and justify that when the fair play rules really kick in.

 

[Embattle]

There defence is worse, our midfields are about same but there attack is a lot better.

Willian is actually a very promising player, to me he is probably only behind Hazard in our midfield.

Regarding FFP - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...er-City-and-Premier-League-clubs-compare.html

 

[caLLous]

I don't usually agree with Redknapp but he's spot on here...

 

[Raven]

Yep massive cunt but spot on there.

 

[Raven]

There defence is worse, our midfields are about same but there attack is a lot better.

Willian is actually a very promising player, to me he is probably only behind Hazard in our midfield.

Regarding FFP - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...er-City-and-Premier-League-clubs-compare.html

How much of that "profit" was down to cash injections from the sugardaddy though? Didn't he write off a couple of hundred million a couple of seasons ago?

 

[Embattle]

I generally agree, I sometimes think he does it just to deflect any criticism away from the players but I don't think it helps a great deal.

I would like to see some team pruning this summer, I defiantly want to unload Torres, Mikel and Cole and wouldn't mind unloading Ramires. I would also be interested in offers for some of our higher value players such as Oscar/Luiz and would even consider players like Cech depending on what happens with Courtois.

It would be nice if this summer we can get some more traction on future stadium plans.

 

[Billargh]

One thing I can agree with you on, Willian is an absolutely fantastic player. The ball sticks to him like glue, whenever he has it I don't think he's ever going to get tackled and lose possession.

 

[megadave]

every one of our losses this season has become before a CL match, better make it count and get to the final.

is it true mike riley cant ref liverpool gamea vecause hes a scouser?

 

[Vladamir]

Wonder if Jose will throw the Liverpool game in favour of being properly prepared for the home leg of the Athletico game? Pending Pool's game today and the first leg on Tues this week obviously.

Mugged himself off a bit in the post-match interview unfortunately, wonder if Mike Dean shagged Rui Faria's wife after his reaction yesterday too.

 

[Embattle]

It'll partly depend on Liverpool's result today.

 

[caLLous]

is it true mike riley cant ref liverpool gamea vecause hes a scouser?

Mike Dean? I don't know if he's actually not allowed to ref a Liverpool game but:

Dean was originally appointed to referee the 2006 FA Cup final at the Millennium Stadium on 13 May 2006 but the Football Association later replaced him with Alan Wiley after concerns were raised about Dean's ability to be impartial towards Liverpool, who are based near his hometown in Wirral.

 

[Vladamir]

Liverpool would need to drop at least 4 points in the 4 remaining games whilst Chelsea take 9 from 9, can't see it happening myself.

 

[caLLous]

I can't either to be fair. I mean Sunderland have beaten Chelsea and drawn with City in the space of a week, those are two teams that should not be dropping points to a 20th placed team. I think 'pool will beat Chelsea but they may slip up against one of the others but only to the point of a draw, not a loss.

We beat Sunderland 5-1, in case you forgot. Just sayin'.

 

[Embattle]

I can't either to be fair. I mean Sunderland have beaten Chelsea and drawn with City in the space of a week, those are two teams that should not be dropping points to a 20th placed team. I think 'pool will beat Chelsea but they may slip up against one of the others but only to the point of a draw, not a loss.

We beat Sunderland 5-1, in case you forgot. Just sayin'.

They like many bottom teams are the traditional banana skins for the top teams as they need the win more and the drag of Europe takes effect, which is more likely to make Chelsea's finish even more painful.

We beat Spurs 4-0 so by default we should of beat them but as we all know past performance is no guarantee of future wins something which at times escapes the players.

 

[caLLous]

To be honest we've both struggled against teams we should, on paper, breeze past. Our major downfall this season has been against the top 4 teams. Results that really fucking stick with me this season are losing 3-0 to West Ham, the 1-0 loss to Hull, drawing a couple of weeks ago with Norwich etc but I think we took one point out of 24 against the top 4 teams (with a GD of -25) so yeah, that's where we fucked it up.

 

[soze]

Mike Dean? I don't know if he's actually not allowed to ref a Liverpool game but:

They said yesterday that he got to ref his first Merseyside derby after recently moving to Wales. He was never a Scouse fan just lived within the set distance which means no reffing local teams.

 

[Raven]

Sturridge not starting today due to injury.