Football The 2012 / 2013 Season Thread

[gohan]

Strong rumours going round that Theo's resigned, reported in a few places now. Will wait and see but looks promising.

Hyphons are important here!!! I was like resigned?? how can he resign!!! Surely he has a contract to honour!!

 

[DaGaffer]

Hyphons are important here!!! I was like resigned?? how can he resign!!! Surely he has a contract to honour!!

This. I was confused.

 

[Wazzerphuk]

If you got confused then your brain doesn't work very well tbh

 

[gohan]

If you got confused then your brain doesn't work very well tbh

If you can't use the right word then your brain doesn't work all that well either

 

[Wazzerphuk]

It is the right word in the right context.

Or do you get confused by minute and minute as well, even though the context tells you what word it is? Admittedly, this is one of the reasons I love/hate English.

 

[eksdee]

Homonyms like resign and resign, minute and minute or bow and bow are simply to be deciphered by context when written down. At least that's how I understand it. Wazzer's post didn't confuse me at all, but I can see how it could be confusing.

 

[gohan]

Re anything is usually hyphonated, Ms spellchecker hates Recrystallisation, but has no issue with Re-crystallisation. True story, also if you type resign into google the only definition that coems up is the quitting of ones job. Which is ironic that they have opposite meanings...


Karl Darlow: Walsall re-sign Nottingham Forest keeper on loan


Did EPA Chief Lisa Jackson resign because emails she sent from a secret alias account will go public next month?


Defend government policy or resign, Israel's ambassadors are told


http://www.beedictionary.com/common-errors/resign_vs_re_sign

resign vs re-sign : Common Errors in English

About resign vs re-sign

Athletes who renew their contracts re-sign with their teams (note the hyphen). If they were to resign they would do the opposite—leave.

resign Meaning(s)​

• (v) leave (a job, post, or position) voluntarily
• (v) give up or retire from a position
• (v) part with a possession or right
• (v) accept as inevitable

JustSaying.Com

 

[DaGaffer]

If you got confused then your brain doesn't work very well tbh

Your powers of English are weak young padawan; hyphen missing is.

 

[eksdee]

Re anything is usually hyphonated

Not true. A 're' word is hyphonated when it either: a) could be confusing or b) hasn't yet been accepted into the common vernacular (newer words, such as recrystallisation, are a good example). So in the case of resign/re-sign you're probably right, but it's not a hard and fast rule. At least that how I was taught when I was a proof reader.

 

[gohan]

Homonyms like resign and resign, minute and minute or bow and bow are simply to be deciphered by context when written down. At least that's how I understand it. Wazzer's post didn't confuse me at all, but I can see how it could be confusing.

no, bow and bow wouldn't make sense in the same sentance

no one would bow to the the queen, as you can't bow TO some one as it's an object. Bow is an adjective bow is a noun so the sentence structure differs.

whereas Theo Walcott could as easily re-sign as he could resign, they are both adjectives so the sentance remains the same.

 

[eksdee]

Since when did this become about words in the same sentence?

This is getting silly now! Let's talk about football instead.

 

[Wazzerphuk]

Your powers of English are weak young padawan; hyphen missing is.

Your assessment of context is weak

 

[gohan]

Since when did this become about words in the same sentence?

This is getting silly now! Let's talk about football instead.

In that (without background knowledge that wazz would want walcott to stay) either version of resign/re-sign can slot into the sentance perfectly and make sense, if wazz hated walcott then the opposite would still be a perfectly correct sentance. So it can't always be deciphered purely in the context of what's written. (in this case it can because we know wazz but that shouldn't be a prerequisit for reading and understanding a post) yagetme?

 

[gohan]

Also on a side note if I win an argument about English and grammer then the world has got backwards!!!!!!

 

[DaGaffer]

In that (without background knowledge that wazz would want walcott to stay) either version of resign/re-sign can slot into the sentance perfectly and make sense, if wazz hated walcott then the opposite would still be a perfectly correct sentance. So it can't always be deciphered purely in the context of what's written. (in this case it can because we know wazz but that shouldn't be a prerequisit for reading and understanding a post) yagetme?

This. Hence my confusion. I literally read it as resign (quit) and couldn't understand why Wazz would consider this good news, and assumed personal vendetta, which is normal FH practice after all.

 

[eksdee]

In that (without background knowledge that wazz would want walcott to stay) either version of resign/re-sign can slot into the sentance perfectly and make sense, if wazz hated walcott then the opposite would still be a perfectly correct sentance. So it can't always be deciphered purely in the context of what's written. (in this case it can because we know wazz but that shouldn't be a prerequisit for reading and understanding a post) yagetme?

I disagree, but I really don't have the energy to argue my point further than that.

 

[Wazzerphuk]

Er, my opinion has nothing to do with the context.

The context is the ongoing will-he-or-won't he saga regarding the new contract. We all know that context already. If I'd just posted a thread unrelating to the contextual narrative that has existed for some time then by all means be confused, but kicking up such a fuss here is a bit silly.

 

[gohan]

It's only a 'fuss' because you can't accept you're wrong

but saying in general that both words are spelled the same and you have to look at the context is a load of bollocks!

"My brother resigned today, so happy for him"

Which do I mean? He's renewed a contract? Or he's managed to leave a job I know that he absoloutley hated?


Either work perfectly hence re-sign being hyphenated, just accept it.

 

[DaGaffer]

Er, my opinion has nothing to do with the context.

The context is the ongoing will-he-or-won't he saga regarding the new contract. We all know that context already. If I'd just posted a thread unrelating to the contextual narrative that has existed for some time then by all means be confused, but kicking up such a fuss here is a bit silly.

No, because he could have re-signed or resigned (as in, put in for a transfer).

 

[eksdee]

It's only a 'fuss' because you can't accept you're wrong

How can either of you be wrong or right about something that you yourself stated has no definitive rule ("Re anything is usually hyphonated")? Looks to me more a case of you being desperate to be right!

 

[eksdee]

 

[eksdee]

Sorry I'm slightly delirious on bronchial balsam

 

[gohan]

How can either of you be wrong or right about something that you yourself stated has no definitive rule ("Re anything is usually hyphonated")? Looks to me more a case of you being desperate to be right!

No I just like an argument occasionally against people who aren't retards, makes you sharper definitely beats trying to explain to people on fb why 1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1-1+1+1+1+1+1+1x0 isn't 14, at least you lot understand my argument even if you don't agree with it (even though secretly you all do agree)

 

[Wazzerphuk]

No, because he could have re-signed or resigned (as in, put in for a transfer).

He could have, but considering the context of "re-signing" had been established for a considerable period of time, getting confused for "resign" one immediately makes sense. Given that a large portion of this thread recently has been about him "re-signing" and not quitting anything then there's no necessary need to spell it out.

Anyway, can we talk about football here?

 

[Madmaxx]

 

[Raven]

I think this year is the first time since it's launch that I haven't bought the latest Football manager. Been a bit of a tight arse with me Xmas Steam spending and 25% off £30 just doesn't do it for me!

Oh and I hope page 170 doesn't have as much AIDS.

 

[Vladamir]

Sturridge to 'pool done then

 

[soze]

My friends working at/for Arsenal have not heard any rumors of him signing a new contract from within the club. Still hope it is true though.

 

[Calaen]

Sturridge isn't good enough, Liverpool need a finisher sturridge borini and suarez aint it.

 

[eksdee]

I'm petrified any time I see Ross Turnbull in goal. Liability.