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Everz

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You obviously hadn't watched him in the first team matches he did play for Arsenal.

He wasn't great. Not shit by any means, but didn't offer a great deal and made a few errors. He's not ready for 1st team action for a team under as much pressure as we are right now.

I dunno, feel he is under less pressure for us? It was clear at least that he was head and shoulders above anyone at the Villa game, hopefully he recovers from his injury soon enough as we need the lad if we are too stand any chance.
 

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Oh and our third signing of window looks to Mancienne on loan. My rage is going overboard now. :(
 

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I dunno, feel he is under less pressure for us? It was clear at least that he was head and shoulders above anyone at the Villa game, hopefully he recovers from his injury soon enough as we need the lad if we are too stand any chance.

Definitely. Every mistake or misplaced pass isn't scrutinised. He also doesn't fit in the 3 man midfield if Song is playing as they play the same role. Frimpong can't play like Ramsey or Arteta and it would be foolish to make him do so.
 

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Definitely. Every mistake or misplaced pass isn't scrutinised. He also doesn't fit in the 3 man midfield if Song is playing as they play the same role. Frimpong can't play like Ramsey or Arteta and it would be foolish to make him do so.

He seems to be (to excuse the use) but a shitkicker, he can do the dirty work much like Parker does for Spurs, He does let his head get to him at times but I can't fault his effort and mentality, goes out to win and a give 100%.

Least do see a big future for him as he has the potential to be in your XI.
 

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No, because there is massive doubt and debate over that, he clipped his head, but you can argue just as easily for an accident as you can for an offence. Ballotelli himself went to see that Parker was ok once he realised he had hit him, not the actions of someone who set out to hurt another player.

Lescott's looked like a clear swing of his arm to strike another player.

Don't want to keep banging on but... just watched it again. Balotelli is falling to his left but uses his right foot to quickly stamp on Parker. Look how fast his foot moves in relation to the motion of the rest of his body. There can be absolutely no doubt it was intentional.

The only thing you could argue is that he wasn't aiming for his head. it was a spur of the moment thing and i suspect he felt bad afterwards.


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Jesus as it stands our first game of the next season could be Stevenage away..
 

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OK. You would have to be an idiot to think it wasn't. Better?

How you can make an assertion that only ONE MAN will know is beyond me, but clearly your brain is so far advanced that it can do shit like that.
 

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"Nedum Onuoha was McCarthy’s main transfer target but Wolves appear to have missed out on the 25-year-old because of his wage demands, although they did speak with his club Manchester City on Friday.
QPR agreed a fee of £3m with City but the move hasn’t yet gone through, with reports of late interest from Everton."

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How you can make an assertion that only ONE MAN will know is beyond me, but clearly your brain is so far advanced that it can do shit like that.

WTF? For the exact reason people have argued Lescott's was intentional. It's fucking obvious.

Are you saying you can never prove intent in an action? :D
 

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So PSG are rated higher because they have money, that seems to be the basis of your argument. The Italian league is better than it's been for years, it's recovered from scandal and money problems and is very competitive again, the French league is puny by comparison. Champions league top 4... what does that even mean?
Nah their team is better imo.. and the french league really isn't to be underestimated.. it's not that far behind Serie A at all and is getting better and better with all this money getting pumped in to it. And by Champions League Top 4 I meant PSG will more than likely get in to the semi finals or at least the quarter finals.. especially with no Man Utd / Man City around this season.

Milan is still full of golden oldies for some reason.... the average age of their team is 29 :D
 

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WTF? For the exact reason people have argued Lescott's was intentional. It's fucking obvious.

Are you saying you can never prove intent in an action? :D

*facepalm*

Shoving your arm out in a place where the arm would never normally go is an INDICATOR of intent. It is not PROOF.

Balotelli's is subjectively indicative of intent. There is no proof, and the action is questionable and has divided many people. It is not considered PROOF.

You would fucking fail so hard at any kind of logic or law exam.
 

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Neither Willian nor Hazard are central midfielders really, especially not Hazard. I guess Willian is more of a trequirista/false 9 type of player and Hazard is more of a winger.
 

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Chelsea have so many good central midfielders :( but yeah it would be awesome of Hazard came to the Prem.. think he will move this summer for sure.
 

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Well, we have a lot of industrious midfielders, but we still desperately lack someone who can play the killer pass. Mata can do it when he comes inside, but he can't carry the offense for the whole game every game.
 

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AVB said we won't sign anyone cup tied in the CL, which is silly since we might not be in it for much longer :p
 

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*facepalm*

Shoving your arm out in a place where the arm would never normally go is an INDICATOR of intent. It is not PROOF.

Balotelli's is subjectively indicative of intent. There is no proof, and the action is questionable and has divided many people. It is not considered PROOF.

You would fucking fail so hard at any kind of logic or law exam.

Don't be so pedantic. It's a football thread. Oh and I do just exceptionally well in "logic" exams thanks. Are you a lawyer?
 

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AVB said we won't sign anyone cup tied in the CL, which is silly since we might not be in it for much longer :p

Indeed. If he really does stick with that, then I can't see us signing anyone 'til the summer to be honest or it would be a waste of money.
 

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Don't be so pedantic. It's a football thread. Oh and I do just exceptionally well in "logic" exams thanks. Are you a lawyer?

Pedantry :D You're asserting you know exactly what went through a man's head at a specific moment in time and you think me highlighting the fact you're talking UTTER BULLSHIT is pedantry? Fucking lol.
 

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Don't be so pedantic. It's a football thread. Oh and I do just exceptionally well in "logic" exams thanks. Are you a lawyer?
No he works for Sports Interactive to help make Football Manager.. explains a lot. :D
 

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Pedantry :D You're asserting you know exactly what went through a man's head at a specific moment in time and you think me highlighting the fact you're talking UTTER BULLSHIT is pedantry? Fucking lol.

Bloody hell. Read my post. I gave reasons for my thinking it was intentional. He moves his foot quickly to an unnatural position.

Saying "no doubt" is a bit like saying "literally" when you don't mean something is 100% literal. It's just used to emphasise a point. You don't need to get a boner over it.
 

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how come everyone talks about Ballotelli and nobody talks about Lescott?
 

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You didn't say you thought it was intentional, you said there was "no doubt."

If you use "literally" and "no doubt" when you don't actually mean them then you:

a) should not be surprised when someone puts you to task on it,
b) are a stupid cunt that has to use hyperbole to make a point and therefore actually have nothing valuable to say at all
 

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Megadave; everytime we talk about lescott someone pops up telling us we are all blind idiots for questioning ballotellis guilt.
 

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