Football The 2011/2012 Season Thread

[Everz]

Stan James has seemingly stopped bets on him.

Announcement on whether its true or not should be done tommorow.

 

[ileks]

The press are ensuring ballotelli gets fucked, whilst it could have been a red you cant proove intent and i think he was kicking out a modric grabbing his shirt not parker. They guys got a bad rep and its largely undeserved.

The press here seem to love wanting to drive the most talented players out of the league through persecution.

Spuds you threw that game, if you want to blame a bad tackle, blame ledleys

He doesn't have a bad rep. People over here (including the press) love him.

Today he tried to fucking stamp on Parker's head.

You can't prove intent? You could say that about any tackle.

 

[Ch3tan]

The press love to hate him, I've listened to 606 and the talksport phone in today, he was getting ruined by journalists and fans. They all kept going on about him having form for this.

He's going to get a massive ban, and whilst I won't shed a tear for city, it's not good for a young player who gets a LOT of shit.

 

[Embattle]

The action is enough, if it had been seen he would of got a red card.

 

[soze]

Ref appeared to be looking right at it so I do not think thats true.

 

[soze]

This makes me think City must still be paying Tevez http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4076001/Tevez-snubs-Paris-switch.html

 

[ileks]

The press love to hate him, I've listened to 606 and the talksport phone in today, he was getting ruined by journalists and fans. They all kept going on about him having form for this.

He's going to get a massive ban, and whilst I won't shed a tear for city, it's not good for a young player who gets a LOT of shit.

Have you seen it? If you have and think that then fair enough. Personally I really like Balotelli but thought it was out of order and he deserves a three match ban.

 

[Ch3tan]

Yes, several times, at full speed and in slow mo. I don't think he intentionally stamps on Parkers head, and if it's not intentional it cannot be a red.

 

[Ch3tan]

This makes me think City must still be paying Tevez http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4076001/Tevez-snubs-Paris-switch.html

That makes me think he doesn't want to move to a smaller club in a weak league.

 

[Litmus]

This makes me think City must still be paying Tevez http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4076001/Tevez-snubs-Paris-switch.html

Of course they are still paying him. he is under contract still... They never sacked him... So until the day they either sack him or sell him he will still be payed

 

[soze]

That makes me think he doesn't want to move to a smaller club in a weak league.

Guy is meant to be a merc who will not play for Manchester as its a shit city though so 10 million quid a year in a city like Paris should tick his boxes. I know parts of Paris are shit holes but its compared to manchester

 

[soze]

Of course they are still paying him. he is under contract still... They never sacked him... So until the day they either sack him or sell him he will still be payed

Employee refused to show up to work for me he would not get paid.

 

[Ch3tan]

He's a cunt aye, but he's still a talented cunt who is holding out for Milan.

And he will still be getting paid Soze, he will have got fined for the period he was in argentina, but he's back in manchester now and as long as he turns up to training they cannot refuse to pay him. Constructive dismissal and all that.

 

[Calaen]

F

With out the stutter he could well have been off side though??

He was never in danger of being offside watch it back. He though about running then stopped then went agsin then slowed then actually went for it, that's what cost him. Can't blame bale at all a slow pass would have had Joe hart diving out and stopping it.

 

[Calaen]

I also really like ballotelli, but his foot did not need to come down like that at all, Definate intent for me.

 

[Ch3tan]

One thing I have to concede after today, Man Shitty and Spuds are currently the two most complete teams in the prem and they play some utterly gorgeous football. Very jealous.

 

[Lethul]

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He was never in danger of being offside watch it back. He though about running then stopped then went agsin then slowed then actually went for it, that's what cost him. Can't blame bale at all a slow pass would have had Joe hart diving out and stopping it.

Could've hit the pass earlier tho

 

[soze]

One thing I have to concede after today, Man Shitty and Spuds are currently the two most complete teams in the prem and they play some utterly gorgeous football. Very jealous.

Yeah first time in my life as a fan where Spuds can claim to be the best in London. Will have to see how long it lasts. I still don't like the way City are buying it though.

 

[Calaen]

Could've hit the pass earlier tho

Bale plated it perfectly, he forced the centre back to fully commit to him.

Personally I thought spurs were toothless until Savic gave them the gift. With adabayor up top I do agree though. They could improve on Lennon who was non existent for 90 minutes!

 

[Everz]

Lols. Wolves boards make me laugh, people with 'concrete' evidence that Rafa may well be on his way to us.

To be fair, I'd have a sexwee if that was true.

 

[Corran]

Cant be bothered to read back, i dont visit here often now.
Balotelli was a red card offense. There is no way that his leg can naturally move back in the direction it did. Therefore it was an intentional stamp/kick motion. Now he may not have known he was kicking a player in the head but it doesnt matter. It is a red card offense and the ref fucked up by not giving it.

 

[georgie]

Lols. Wolves boards make me laugh, people with 'concrete' evidence that Rafa may well be on his way to us.

To be fair, I'd have a sexwee if that was true.

I'm sure Dave Jones is still free.

 

[soze]

Speaking to my uncle and today is the first day he has ever said he thinks Wenger needs to go. The substitution today was wrong he went by the numbers and took of Chambo just because he had played 75 minutes, he did not look fatigued to me or anyone else. The way he sticks with passengers with no heart is frustrating. We have a player like Frimpong who absolutely loves our club and will give 100% every game and he gets sent out on loan while players like
Arshavin, Rosicky and Benayoun get games. I would rather have some passion than the potential good game that could come from one of these 3. And then for a guy that gives youth a chance why did Yennaris not start the game? The difference when he came on was noticeable Nani was much less of a threat in the second half. I understand not wanting to buy when you have 4 win backs injured but when you have a kid with quality why play a crap player out of position?

And as much as I love Henry he is truly a living Legend anyone who does not see his loan move as a PR stunt to stop people worrying about signings is blind. We are pinning our hopes on Chamakh and Park should RVP get injured and that is just not the actions of a team with championship ambitions. As for our midfield the current plan seems to be wait for Jack. But I am sorry Jack can not be expected to have a massive impact. He will be like a player coming back from a leg break it will take time for him to get back to full speed. Same goes for Sagna and it would for Gibbs too but he will be injured twice more before the season ends.

At the moment we are in a mess with our squad. Too many players like Denilson, Roisky and Vela have been here getting pay rises for too long. We have having problems selling them on as no one will match the wages. Diaby is different his leg is fucked because of an injury he got playing for us for that reason I would offer him a 8 year contract for 15k a week let him finish his career helping kids come through. He should not however be on nearly 40k playing 5 games a season. Its not good to say but I think we have 5 or 6 players that would not get into 10 squads in this league.

It really is time now to force some of these players out lets pay off contacts a git rid. Then go out and buy some players with passion we have too much flair and no bollocks (apart from Frimpong). We get beat too often by teams we should be better than but they out play us because they want it more. I have no doubt we would be in a better position if we got Parker or Barton during the summer.

Now the problem with all of this is none of it will change under Wenger he is too proud to admit that some of these players are no good and to cut them. I never want to say he should be sacked but it might be better for the club if he steps aside and move upstairs.

 

[Cadelin]

Employee refused to show up to work for me he would not get paid.

If someone breaks a contract, if the other party breaks it as well you can argue that the contract is voided as neither party is sticking to it. In this case if Man City stopped paying Tevez he could walk out on a free. Tevez may be costing £10 million a year in wages or whatever but he can still be sold for more and Man City won't want him playing for a competitor either.

 

[Wazzerphuk]

Ah the reactionary opinions are in again. A narrow defeat to a Man Utd team and Wenger must go! I like the way you include two players we've loaned out (so are OFF the wage bill) as an example of why he should go. It's really turned me round!

 

[Aoami]

Do any arse fans on here think Wenger will walk if you finish outside the top 4 this year?

 

[Keitanz]

That makes me think he doesn't want to move to a smaller club in a weak league.

I'd rate PSG higher than Milan right now to be honest, far better future as well... with a top top manager, they will more than likely challenge for the Champions League top 4 if they keep singing these amazing players.

But OFC Milan is a better place to live

 

[Turamber]

Whoever follows Wenger will have a tough act to follow. Winning will not be enough, they'll have to play brilliant football too. Football fans are very demanding, they won't settle for less in any department, ever.

Oh and that Ballotelli 'incident'... I've only seen it once and I wouldn't have thought anything of it if Chairman Neville hadn't been making a meal of it. Looks like a player off balance falling awkwardly, nothing more.

 

[soze]

Ah the reactionary opinions are in again. A narrow defeat to a Man Utd team and Wenger must go! I like the way you include two players we've loaned out (so are OFF the wage bill) as an example of why he should go. It's really turned me round!

Actually both players are on our wage bill as they are payed more than anyone else would offer them, we could not even let Denilson go for a free in the summer. And a lot of the problems are far from reactionary they have been building for years.

Do any arse fans on here think Wenger will walk if you finish outside the top 4 this year?

He pretty much said he will need to be fired this week so nope I do not see him stepping down I doubt the board would let him unless he moved into a different position.

 

[Embattle]

Ref appeared to be looking right at it so I do not think thats true.

Personally seeing it last night the ref was only looking at the start of the clash, he appeared to follow the ball and thus didn't see the end.

I liked Wenger's answer about standing by his sub descision...yes perhaps you do but why did you sub Ox.

The Arsenal board like Wenger because he doesn't cost them much in transfers and doesn't make waves, if they were to replace him they would need to create an actual transfer pot.