Football The 2011/2012 Season Thread

[Scouse]

Proably pasted on there...

Edit: Lol cal

 

[Everz]

Lampard to United doing the rounds on the boards. Lol.

 

[soze]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16428754.stm

Hate to agree with the cunt but he's spot on. It's one rule for the big boys and one rule for the rest.

If that was the case why did Gervinhos ban not get over turned when Barton admitted there was fa contact? Barton going nose to nose is as bad as stroking a face.

 

[soze]

If you are passionate about your team you'll go to some matches. If you're not a fanatic you're not a fan. Definite plastic ness about your post I'm afraid.

So a guy in Asia who loves a club but cant afford International travel is less of a fan because of where he was born? I just do not buy that you can be just as passionate with out going to games people who are house bound or just cant afford it are examples. And i have my season ticket stubs thanks.

 

[Aoami]

cant we have a thread without this coming up just one year?

 

[Keitanz]

The Darren Bent to Liverpool reports are getting stronger and stronger.

I'd love it to be honest, but I'm really not sure where he'd fit in.. guaranteed goals.

 

[Ch3tan]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16428754.stm

Hate to agree with the cunt but he's spot on. It's one rule for the big boys and one rule for the rest.

This has been made a farce by the FA as they are desperate to stand by their refs; it's stupid in the face of such obvious fuck up's though.

 

[Wazzerphuk]

He'd fit in at left back, obviously.

 

[Keitanz]

Seems it's actually a load of shit.. could just be a smoke screen though maybe..

 

[Ch3tan]

It's shit, Villa won't let him leave.

 

[megadave]

The Darren Bent to Liverpool reports are getting stronger and stronger.

I'd love it to be honest, but I'm really not sure where he'd fit in.. guaranteed goals.

Has there been a single decent source that has reported it?

 

[Ch3tan]

Wrong thread I know, but people here may actually care... the Amir Khan thing, dodgy as fuck the activity at ringside!

 

[Scouse]

The Darren Bent to Liverpool reports are getting stronger and stronger..

I fucking hope not

 

[Raven]

Wrong thread I know, but people here may actually care... the Amir Khan thing, dodgy as fuck the activity at ringside!

Heard about it, can't find any of the pictures.

 

[Ch3tan]

Sky showed a video, basically a 4th guy who isn't a judge or an official sits at the judges desk, moves when told, and comes back in the 6th round and stays for a few rounds, comparing scorecards and talking to the judges about them.

 

[Wazzerphuk]

That's almost as shocking as Howard getting less fantasy points than Krul. He fucking scored you tight cunts!

 

[caLLous]

Well maybe if he had done his job and kept a clean sheet he would've scored more points.

 

[Wazzerphuk]

GKs scoring is a lot rarer than keeping a clean sheet

 

[Everz]

Seems everyone has just about the same impression on what a plastic is then.

The one thing I'm inclined to disagree with though, is what Everz says about visiting the grounds. I've never been to a match in my life despite having been a Newcastle fan for as long as I can remember. When I was younger, I/my parents simply couldn't afford to take me, I stopped following for a few years around my teens but have recently gotten back into it. My excuse now though is that none of my mates (or at least ones I'd want to spend a considerable amount of time with) could give much of a toss about football, and the ones that do are dang blasted Sunderland supporters! I'll get to a match one day though, would absolutely love to go.

Spose I'm viewed that at if you bother to pay to go to the ground then you do truly support the team.

 

[Everz]

This has been made a farce by the FA as they are desperate to stand by their refs; it's stupid in the face of such obvious fuck up's though.

Agreeable the standard of refs currently is a joke. Any sniff of consistency seemed to get frowned upon.

 

[Everz]

Since Mourinho left all our managers have either been weak (Ancelotti, Villas Boas, Grant), deferential (Hiddink) or tried to blast it open and been done away with in quick time (Scolari). Therefore the players effectively run the club.

Since Mourinho built them all up with his 'untouchables' shit, there have effectively been two camps, one led by Terry and Lampard and the other led by Drogba. All sorts of subterfuge goes on, most notably the sacking of Scolari (engineered by the Drogba, Cech, Ballack trio). Terry's influence has been on the wane for a while now, hastened by the Wayne Bridge thing. You can see the results of the whole war coming into the open now, with Lampard all but publicly attacking Villas Boas and agitating for a move away, while the foreign contingent run over to celebrate goals with him. The foreign lot are largely allied to Abramovich and therefore ever strong, while Terry and Lampard maintained their control for a long time owing to simply being the best players, but as that has become less the case (added to the departures of Joe Cole and Ray Wilkins) they've lost control and this season is the end of it. They aren't helped by the massive personality of Drogba giving his own impromptu team talks and (at times last year) almost managing the side while warming up as a sub.

All of this comes from the awful management structure of the club, which is (since Mourinho left) a very strong playing staff, a weak coaching staff, Abramovich himself intervening when he feels like it, a fat idiot of a chief exec, and all sorts of shadowy figures in the void between Roman and the manager.

It should also be pointed out that while Villas Boas (foreign choice) may be a bit of an idiot, the Terry/Lampard choice was supposedly Mark Hughes.

So to answer your question, it's office politics with a multi million pound spin. The single figure looming over the whole thing is Mourinho, who in uniting this set of bell ends for three years with those results and with effects that are still being felt, has to go down as little less than a genius.

Someone posted this on another board I visit.. Is there some substance?

 

[eksdee]

Over-dramatised but probably not too far from the truth.

 

[Scouse]

Or it could just be that your great players are no longer great, and you've bought a load of chod recently?

 

[eksdee]

Other than Torres, how have any of our other signings been 'chod'? Ramires - one of the best midfielders in the prem; Sturridge - probably the best value striker in the league; Mata - easily one of the best players in the league this season. Merieles is solid, nothing really to write home about sometimes, but most certainly not 'chod'. Luiz, well, still a lot to learn but he is certainly a gifted footballer.

Compare that with Jordan Henderson, Andy Carroll, Stewart Downing...?!

 

[Raven]

I think they are more collectively called, "Carlos Kickabouts"

 

[Scouse]

Oooh! Get all pissy and defensive!

I'm not disputing Liverpools poor buys (Carroll=chod, henderson + downing = ok but way overpriced, but improvements over what we had). I'm saying that, apart from Mata, maybe Ramires (maybe - 8 goals and 1 assist in 63?), you've bought players that account for your league position, and the others are now old.

 

[Vladamir]

Ramires didn't have masses to write home about in his first season but this year he's stepped it up well, taken in context of this season he's on a ratio of ~1 goal per 3.5 games (6 in 21).

 

[megadave]

Ramires' game isn't just about goals and assists though, the amount of work he puts in is awesome.


Talking of stats; Stewart Downing.... 0 goals and 0 assists.

 

[Scouse]

So, my analysis of chelski is bearing out then


Oh, and megadave - I already conceded that. You need a hug or something?

 

[megadave]

no I just read that recently and found it amazing, it's not as if he's terrible or liverpool are terrible, how has he done nothing?