Football The 2010/2011 Season Thread

[leviathane]

apparently you have like £95.9m or so, and they wanna take out £95m of it sounds like such good buisness sense. Who wouldn't want these ppl owning their club?

 

[Ch3tan]

Again, they can exercise an option to take up to 95m, no where has any one said thye will.

Absolute fluff, nothing has really changed, everyone knows they are on shakey ground financially. They need to sell up but lower their ridiculous asking price. At least, and this is the only good thing, they aren't fucknuts like Hicks and Gillet, the club has been left to run itself and they have not commented on or got involved in football matters.

 

[soze]

People need to read the story of the finances better tbh, it's not man utd's debt, it's the glazers personal debt, not the debt of the club or red football holdings. The worry is that they will exercise a right to dip into the clubs cash pool of £95million to help service their own interest payments, that will hurt our flexibility in the transfer market.

Isn't it actually Man U's parent company's debt? And unless I am mistaken if your parent company goes into administration you get docked 10 points. I'm sure that happened in the last couple of years.

 

[Marc]

People need to read the story of the finances better tbh, it's not man utd's debt, it's the glazers personal debt, not the debt of the club or red football holdings. The worry is that they will exercise a right to dip into the clubs cash pool of £95million to help service their own interest payments, that will hurt our flexibility in the transfer market.

edit:// Vidic has now signed the new contract he verbally committed to over the summer. Signed on till 2014

Its not the Glazers personal debt. The article even states this. The holding company has the loans, not the Glazers. WHere do you think the money comes from to service the debt held by Red Football Holdings? Manchester United FC of course.

 

[Ch3tan]

Yeah I mis-read that, still I know where the money comes from to service the debt, which is why I said they only thing they have going for them is that they aren't Hicks and Gillett.

And soze, you are in dream land if you think we are at risk of administration. In fact I wouldn't mind if the glazers were looking down the barrel of administration, they'd be forced to sell up to clear the debts.

 

[Urgluf]

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[Marc]

Yeah I mis-read that, still I know where the money comes from to service the debt, which is why I said they only thing they have going for them is that they aren't Hicks and Gillett.

And soze, you are in dream land if you think we are at risk of administration. In fact I wouldn't mind if the glazers were looking down the barrel of administration, they'd be forced to sell up to clear the debts.

The money to service the debt comes from Manchester United FC, just like the money to service Liverpools debt comes from Liverpool fc. The 2 clubs are no different in the way they are run.

 

[Marc]

marc

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oops!

 

[Ch3tan]

I didn't say they are financed differently, read my last post before that as well.

It's literally because they aren't stupid enough to get involved in footballing matters unlike Hicks and gillet.

 

[Marc]

I didn't say they are financed differently, read my last post before that as well.

It's literally because they aren't stupid enough to get involved in footballing matters unlike Hicks and gillet.

ahh sorry, I misunderstood

 

[soze]

And soze, you are in dream land if you think we are at risk of administration. In fact I wouldn't mind if the glazers were looking down the barrel of administration, they'd be forced to sell up to clear the debts.

I never said you were just saying you have to treat these loans as your problem is all.

 

[cHodAX]

Big money walks away from Liverpool...

BBC Sport - Football - Kenny Huang ends interest in Liverpool takeover

 

[Gibbo]

Big money walks away from Liverpool...

BBC Sport - Football - Kenny Huang ends interest in Liverpool takeover

They were interviewing someone on Sky Sports News from The Times or Sunday Times I think. Sounded like a scouser who knew what was going on, and basically he said Liverpool are on the brink now. He mentioned they pay 2.5m a week in interest alone to RBS. Torres will go in January etc, that sort of stuff...

Although tbh, something didn't seem right about this Haung fella and deal from the start. Not convinced by it at all.

 

[Ch3tan]

Really? He only ever went public because other bidders did, thought he handled himself quite well. He always said that unless a deal was agreed in time he would walk. No point buying the club and having no time in the transfer window.

hicks and Gillet are trying to hold out for more cash, this will bite them in the arse. It will also bite the club and fans in the arse a lot harder.

 

[Ch3tan]

So after a summer of Fabregas, Arse go and do exactly the same thing BBC Sport - Football - Arsenal interest disrupting Fulham's Mark Schwarzer

 

[cHodAX]

Wenger is slagging Scholes off as well, mebbe he should have a look at the likes of Eboue and former players like Viera or Keown before he starts throwing mud.

Of course in his eyes only other teams players have a dark side. What a fucking dick.

 

[soze]

So after a summer of Fabregas, Arse go and do exactly the same thing BBC Sport - Football - Arsenal interest disrupting Fulham's Mark Schwarzer

Actually Wenger submitted a second bid because the manager changed. And then Fulham made it public that there was a second bid not Arsenal. So it is not the same as the tapping up at all. Arsenal refused to admit there was a bid till Mark Hughes started bitching about it.

Wenger is slagging Scholes off as well, mebbe he should have a look at the likes of Eboue and former players like Viera or Keown before he starts throwing mud.

Of course in his eyes only other teams players have a dark side. What a fucking dick.

Behave Furguson never comes to the press and says x teams player did y but then again my own players are just as bad if not worse! Get over it.

 

[cHodAX]

Behave Furguson never comes to the press and says x teams player did y but then again my own players are just as bad if not worse! Get over it.

No No, don't dodge. Twice he has singled United players out now, Fergie has not done that to any Arsenal players past or present, fuck knows he could of with Eboue's conduct. The bloke completely lacks class in this regard, instead of having a go at other teams players he needs to be lighting a fire under his own and inspire them to win something. Maybe that is the problem, he is too busy making excuses for his own players and slagging off everyone elses that he has lost sight of what matters.

 

[soze]

lmfao the reason we have not won anything is because Wenger said Scholes can't tackle. OK conversation over i do not even know how to deal with that Wenger answers a question honestly and thats why we have not won a title lol.

And out of interest im not dodging i have never defended Eboue for his tackling.

 

[cHodAX]

lmfao the reason we have not won anything is because Wenger said Scholes can't tackle. OK conversation over i do not even know how to deal with that Wenger answers a question honestly and thats why we have not won a title lol.

And out of interest im not dodging i have never defended Eboue for his tackling.

He spends too much time slagging everyone else off and can't see the failings of his own side?

 

[soze]

In you head did Wenger call a press conference and say "I called you here today because Paul Scholes is a ****"? Because in reality at his press conference he was asked what he though about Scholes and he was full of praise until he made a remark about him not being able to tackle, which the press have run with as an attack and hey it looks like people bought it.

And if you think making a comment about Scholes once in a week means he is not paying attention to his job then i do not know why im wasting my time talking to you. It defies logic that you think a 5 minute interview is the extent of his weeks work.

 

[cHodAX]

In you head did Wenger call a press conference and say "I called you here today because Paul Scholes is a ****"? Because in reality at his press conference he was asked what he though about Scholes and he was full of praise until he made a remark about him not being able to tackle, which the press have run with as an attack and hey it looks like people bought it.

And if you think making a comment about Scholes once in a week means he is not paying attention to his job then i do not know why im wasting my time talking to you. It defies logic that you think a 5 minute interview is the extent of his weeks work.

He said 'he has a dark side' not that he is a bad tackler. You know what he is implying but you don't want to admit it.

 

[Marc]

AMazing isnt it, that Wenger can see the dark side in Paul Scholes, yet can never see when any of his own players do anything wrong.

The guy is a c***

 

[Ch3tan]

Erm calm down cho, I though Wenger gave a hell of a lot of praise to Scholes. Did you watch the whole press conference or just the media soundbites?

Soze - Wenger has talked of Schwarzer publicly, they have been trying to unsettle him, they have answered direct questions put to them about it.

 

[soze]

He said 'he has a dark side' not that he is a bad tackler. You know what he is implying but you don't want to admit it.

Yeah Scholes has been a dirty **** in the past which he has. Its a fact. What he does not say is he is dirtiest player in the league, nor does he say no Arsenal players do it. I'm struggling to see why you are throwing such a hissy fit about Wenger answering a question. I will buy a fanshare then go to the next AGM and let him know that if he continues to answer questions when asked we will never win another title.

Soze - Wenger has talked of Schwarzer publicly, they have been trying to unsettle him, they have answered direct questions put to them about it.

He admitted that a bid was made and he likes the player. Then on the Arsenal website he said Fulham said he is not for sale and our pursuit was over. The when they got a new manager he tabled the same bid as he may not have been in Fulhams plans now. It was made public by Fulham and now wenger has commented.

"I am not responsible for the Fulham statements," said the Frenchman.

"I never speak about the transfers, the offers, anything made about the players, because we have so many talks in football that are never concluded.

"It is always simple if you want to buy a player and the club doesn't agree: they say no so there is not a lot to talk about."

That is no where near tapping up.

 

[soze]

AMazing isnt it, that Wenger can see the dark side in Paul Scholes, yet can never see when any of his own players do anything wrong.

The guy is a c***

So you are still a troll nice!

 

[cHodAX]

AMazing isnt it, that Wenger can see the dark side in Paul Scholes, yet can never see when any of his own players do anything wrong.

The guy is a c***

Eboue is a saint and Darren Fletcher is 'anti-football'.

I find Wenger to be utterly spineless, he will happily slaughter opponents players but when his own players do the same it is always 'I didn't see it!' or excuse after excuse. Sadly Soze seems to have caught Wenger Disease and can't see that what his manager does not only degrades how Arsenal are seen but also inspires opponents to try even harder against them. The bloke should keep his mouth shut if he has nothing good to say, Fergie can be a right dick but he doesn't go around putting derogatory labels on opponents best players.

 

[leviathane]

just lolage this is.

 

[soze]

Eboue is a saint and Darren Fletcher is 'anti-football'.

I find Wenger to be utterly spineless, he will happily slaughter opponents players but when his own players do the same it is always 'I didn't see it!' or excuse after excuse. Sadly Soze seems to have caught Wenger Disease and can't see that what his manager does not only degrades how Arsenal are seen but also inspires opponents to try even harder against them. The bloke should keep his mouth shut if he has nothing good to say, Fergie can be a right dick but he doesn't go around putting derogatory labels on opponents best players.

Jesus Christ get a grip just because wenger does not say Scholes has a dark side but then again so does Eboue and so did Viera, does not mean he thinks his players are saits it means he was not asked the question.

If you believe half of the dribble you are spweing i need to take serious stock of how much attention to pay to anything you say because you are coming off as a prime muppet right now.

 

[Marc]

Eboue is a saint and Darren Fletcher is 'anti-football'.

I find Wenger to be utterly spineless, he will happily slaughter opponents players but when his own players do the same it is always 'I didn't see it!' or excuse after excuse. Sadly Soze seems to have caught Wenger Disease and can't see that what his manager does not only degrades how Arsenal are seen but also inspires opponents to try even harder against them. The bloke should keep his mouth shut if he has nothing good to say, Fergie can be a right dick but he doesn't go around putting derogatory labels on opponents best players.

I know, hes like Mister houlier than though, especially when it comes to tapping up of his players, even though he and the arsenal fans quickly forget how Arsenal tapped up Gilberto Silva and tried to tap up the united twins before they signed for man united.