Football The 2010/2011 Season Thread

[cHodAX]

still can't see how they'll balance the books, their wage bill is higher than their income

They have big plans to build up the area around the ground, hotels bars etc...

That will give their income a massive boost but they still need to get wages under control, paying half a dozen people in excess of £120,000 a week is pure madness.

 

[cHodAX]

Most of the Manc fans (including Cho) are from London and Surrey though, so I'd be inclined to disagree

Lol I am no cockney slag you cheeky bastard!

As for potential fanbase well they can grow locally a bit but the real growth will have to occur nationally and internationally. One thing is for sure, they will not command gates the size of Old Trafford without at least a decade of success.

 

[megadave]

They have big plans to build up the area around the ground, hotels bars etc...

That will give their income a massive boost but they still need to get wages under control, paying half a dozen people in excess of £120,000 a week is pure madness.

i'm sure i read that that income won't count though

 

[cHodAX]

i'm sure i read that that income won't count though

Surely if it goes under the company banner they cannot deny it? If it is run as one business then I don't see the problem, profits from the other businesses being pumped into football.

 

[megadave]

yeah but there were suggestions that clubs could open big casinos and what not and earn loads of money and some FIFA guy said it wasnt possible iirc

 

[Cerb]

Point taken.

The same can probably be said of Chelsea nowadays too though.

 

[cHodAX]

yeah but there were suggestions that clubs could open big casinos and what not and earn loads of money and some FIFA guy said it wasnt possible iirc

Fair enough, keeps it fair I guess as smaller clubs aren't going to be able to finance or invest in big projects like that.

 

[megadave]

if you've got time read this, bit old but still relevant.

The Swiss Ramble: How Manchester City Could Break Even

here's an interesting bit

The first season that UEFA will start monitoring clubs is 2013/14, but this will take into account the losses made in the two preceding years, namely 2011/12 and 2012/13, so the accounts need to be in far better shape in just two short years.However, they don’t need to be absolutely perfect by then, as billionaire owners will be allowed to absorb aggregate losses (so-called “acceptable deviations”) of €45 million (£39 million) over the three-year monitoring period, as long as they are willing to cover the deficit by making equity contributions. The maximum permitted loss then falls to €30 million (£26 million) from 2015/16 and will be further reduced from 2018/19 (to an unspecified amount). Of course, this is still a much smaller loss than City are currently reporting, so it’s hardly going to be a walk in the park to get down to the initial, softer definition of “break-even”.

 

[megadave]

Point taken.

The same can probably be said of Chelsea nowadays too though.

we've had a decade to put things in order though, and we're not spending nearly the same amount as we used to or what City are spending now.

in fact the reason we're in such a state is because the board decided to sell half our squad to cut the wage bill

 

[Vladamir]

Apparently it's the board's fault Borini's been frozen out of the first team because he hasn't sorted out his contract yet.

 

[Cerb]

I think you've got me wrong. I think it's actually a credit to Chelsea how well they have gone from man city to viable club.

My point was that, like man utd, the majority of Chelsea's support probably isn't in their home town anymore.

 

[megadave]

not that it matters, Sturridge can barely get on the field so what hope does Borini have?

 

[cHodAX]

Lol at City's matchday revenue of £18 million a season. 1/6th of United's £109 million.

 

[cHodAX]

Made my day this did...

8. Stadium

Although ticketing revenues increased by £3 million to £18 million in 2009/10, thanks to extended runs in the FA and Carling Cups, City’s gate receipts are still extremely low compared to other Premier League clubs. As a shocking comparison, their neighbours Manchester United trouser £109 million from match day revenue.

Unfortunately the club is restricted in its ability to greatly increase its match day revenue by the fact that it does not own the City of Manchester Stadium, which is rented from the council on a 250-year lease. The rental payments are based on a formula whereby the club retains receipts up to the 34,000 capacity of Maine Road, their old ground, but has to pay 50% of any revenue above that to the council This means that City do not fully receive the benefit of higher attendances, as it just means more rent paid to the council.

There has been some talk that the club would seek to buy the stadium from the council, but recent reports indicate that it is more likely that they would try to renegotiate the terms of the lease to a flat fee. This would be higher than the current payments, but would allow the club to get more benefit if they expand the capacity. This has certainly been discussed as part of England’s bid to host the 2018 World Cup - possibly to 75,000, but more realistically to 60,000, including more corporate hospitality facilities.

"Born offside"

City’s average attendances have been continually rising over the past few seasons from 40,000 to 45,500, which is now the third highest in the Premier League, though worryingly this is still short of the 48,000 capacity. Clearly, there must be some doubt about City’s ability to fill a new stadium, but if the team is successful on the pitch, you would have to assume that this would draw higher crowds.

In any case, given that Liverpool earn £43 million of match day revenue from the 45,000 capacity Anfield, it does not seem unreasonable to assume that City could at least match that, which would imply an increase of £25 million from the current £18 million.

 

[megadave]

they'll fill it it fine, don't underestimate the glory hunter. Wouldn't be surprised if they started filling it at the expense of Old Trafford tbh

 

[Vladamir]

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Lolwat

 

[Ch3tan]

still can't see how they'll balance the books, their wage bill is higher than their income

Maybe their players have wage reductions built into their contracts? So massive wages (ala Tevez and Yaya) for now, tax in essence payed by the club, and then back to a normal level in 2012.

 

[Ch3tan]

they'll fill it it fine, don't underestimate the glory hunter. Wouldn't be surprised if they started filling it at the expense of Old Trafford tbh

Will you please leave Aada out of this, we've had enough of his mental views this week.

Remember, Fletcher isn't a big game player and Valencia is unproven.

 

[megadave]

They'll win the league next season tbh

 

[Ch3tan]

They'll be in the running for sure... It depends how champs league effects them next season.

 

[cHodAX]

They'll win the league next season tbh

Nope, not gonna happen.

 

[cHodAX]

Kiko off to Sampdoria for 6 months, finally an excuse to watch Italian football again.

Sampdoria snap up Kiko Macheda on loan - ESPN Soccernet

 

[cHodAX]

Ronaldo bags another two goals and they are still playing.

Gamecast: Getafe v Real Madrid - Spanish Primera División - ESPN Soccernet

That is 19 goals in 17 league games for him now.

 

[megadave]

Nope, not gonna happen.

Face it, they have the best squad and half their players havent even settled in yet

 

[Ch3tan]

Ronaldo bags another two goals and they are still playing.

Gamecast: Getafe v Real Madrid - Spanish Primera División - ESPN Soccernet

That is 19 goals in 17 league games for him now.

It's 46 in 46 in all competitions!

 

[cHodAX]

Face it, they have the best squad and half their players havent even settled in yet

Wait for the clearout, they are going to lose a number of players and need to reduce the wage bill. The problem they have is that they can't go out and spend as much again this time around or they will be barred from Europe, Garry Cooke has said as much. City are not going away, no doubt about that but I will not be writing Chelsea off any time soon, if the United sale happens then our prospects only look good and as for Arsenal well they are cash rich with a talented squad that just needs some steel adding to it.

So no I won't face it because I don't believe it will happen and the UEFA rules will start hampering them in the coming seasons.

 

[cHodAX]

It's 46 in 46 in all competitions!

There is only one Ronaldo and he isn't some goofy fat fucking Brazilian.

 

[megadave]

yeah he's a greasy faggot dago instead

you're as bad as Marc

 

[megadave]

also here's some more on those regulations from the same fella

The Swiss Ramble: UEFA Say Fair Play To Arsenal

 

[cHodAX]

yeah he's a greasy faggot dago instead

you're as bad as Marc

Lol he played for us for 5 years, helped us win 3 league titles and a European Cup, of course I love the guy you fucking spanner!