Football The 2009/2010 Season Thread

Vladamir

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Chelsea wasnt bad luck, it was simply awful finishing which isnt about luck :p

They got their luck on their goal with the bounce, after that i dont think they had a real shoot on goal (ie hit well and on target)

Like i said - plenty of chances created but the finishing was awful :p
 

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Like i said - plenty of chances created but the finishing was awful :p

I agree with your criticism of the diamond, given the talent you have on the wings, especially on the left, I really cannot understand why you play so narrow. Lampard needs to push on more, if he is not getting at least 20 goals for you a season he is being wasted. Always thought the most devastating Chelski team was the one with Duff and Robben down the wings, and Lamps consistently popping up in the middle with the strikers.
 

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I agree with your criticism of the diamond, given the talent you have on the wings, especially on the left, I really cannot understand why you play so narrow. Lampard needs to push on more, if he is not getting at least 20 goals for you a season he is being wasted. Always thought the most devastating Chelski team was the one with Duff and Robben down the wings, and Lamps consistently popping up in the middle with the strikers.

because ancelotti is in charge and doesnt know any formations that arn't a diamond?
 

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Poor guy :lol:
 

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Like i said - plenty of chances created but the finishing was awful :p

Can only really remember one clear cut Chelsea chance, which produced a wonder save from Friedel. The rest were quite mundane.

Meanwhile we should have had a penalty, your right back should have walked with a red card and Carew really should have done better with that fabulous cross than poke it into orbit with his toe.

We have a very good record against Chelsea at our place. Last season was the first time in ten years that they'd got three points at Villa Park.
 

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Can only really remember one clear cut Chelsea chance, which produced a wonder save from Friedel. The rest were quite mundane.

Meanwhile we should have had a penalty, your right back should have walked with a red card and Carew really should have done better with that fabulous cross than poke it into orbit with his toe.

We have a very good record against Chelsea at our place. Last season was the first time in ten years that they'd got three points at Villa Park.

Anelka, Malouda and Deco all had chances inside or around the 6 yard box in the second half but the shots were very poor.
 

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You Deserved to win Tura but we still 2nd only 1 point behind man u so its not liek we in free fall like last year. Ancelotti wont be sacked and as long as lampard keeps getting the assists and setting up goals im happy.
 

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The corner defending was awful. Ricky and Drogba were at fault and will probably receive a roasting for that. JT's reaction after the second goal was there for all to see.

I was hoping the folks that did the balloon trick on alex ferguson would have terry stomping out fire or something, I was fucking pissing myself laughing at his childlike reaction, he kicked the ball into the net twice he was so annoyed HAHAA.
 

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LOL, i can see it coming :p

To be fair i didn't view it as childlike, more like complete and utter rage because someone wasn't doing their job properly.
 

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tbh, 9 games without a goal and only a penalty to his name, it's clear the diamond formation does not suit Lampard at all, although I suppose if Chelsea are still winning it will only annoy him personally because he aint scoring as many as he could be.
 

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LOL, i can see it coming :p

To be fair i didn't view it as childlike, more like complete and utter rage because someone wasn't doing their job properly.

Yeah I do agree but having a two year old daughter I have witnessed the rage stomp on numerous occasions :p and the thought of the internet warriors going to work on it was the first thought in my head!!
 

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Can we get Bents goal classed as an Own Goal as it came of something with the Liverpool badge on!?
 

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That gaol really should have been and should be disallowed,
you can see reiner has his eyes right on the ball and that the ball would have gone strait into his arms on the replay.
 

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That gaol really should have been and should be disallowed,
you can see reiner has his eyes right on the ball and that the ball would have gone strait into his arms on the replay.

Happened last year, or the year before as well and the goal was allowed. Maybe someone can say what game it was in.

Someone rolled the ball across the 6yrd box, was going straight to teh defender, hit a balloon and changed direction to the striker who just tapped it in. (iirc the full thing)

Whatever it was, ballon effected the ball yet Goal was allowed.

Serves liverpool right for having twats in their crowd :p

Interested to know how long it was on the pitch for, and if anyone had a chance to get rid of it. But you cant blame the referee for allowing it to stand as precedent has previously been set for this kind of thing.

no its already 1-0 at this point
that be because it was a replay of how the ball got there, as they wouldnt have shown it if the thing didnt effect play.

What i want to know, will the kid get a ban from stadiums? There should be no difference between throwing a coin to throwing anything else. Throwing coin = ban from stadium, so hope they hit this kid with it.

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The match was Sunderland vs Man City.
Sunderland scored after the ball hit 2 balloons which slightly deviated the ball and confused the defender to totally do an Air kick missing the ball that rolled just behind him to the attacker.
Funnily again it caused by the teams own fans, light blue balloons released by Man City fans
 

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if you look the ball is actually thrown to him by what seems to be
a stadium officail or an liverpool organizer/pepboi,

and you lot cant seriously be blaming a child for that..
he's just a child that got carried away, the sun outing him is tasteless imo.

Feel sorry for him
 

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I wonder if its something the ref can even disallow a goal for. That being said seeing as it came from Liverpool fans i would say tough luck.

And you see that all the time 99 times out of 100 the keeper normally stamps on it so unless it just landed there maybe reina should have poped it
 

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A goal was scored last year under similar circumstances. Sheffield United scored a goal via a balloon in the Manchester City box. Apparently the rule is the ref should stop play and award a drop ball if the ball is deflected by the balloon.

Graham Poll said at the time: "It's no different from a second ball hitting the match ball, or a spectator or a dog interfering with the ball. Any outside influence causing the ball to deviate should result in a drop ball. But if the referee did not see the ball change direction because of the balloons then he was justified in awarding the goal"

Personally I'd put the blame firmly at the feet of the goalkeeper. If he can't be bothered to clear his area of balloons or balls then more fool him.
 

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What i want to know, will the kid get a ban from stadiums? There should be no difference between throwing a coin to throwing anything else. Throwing coin = ban from stadium, so hope they hit this kid with it.

Don't be silly. A coin is meant to injure somebody. A balloon or a big red ball certainly doesn't have the same effect or intent. If the ruling was extended as you suggest then people who threw the match ball back onto the pitch would be banned.

And the guy at Villa Park the other year who threw a burger at Frank Lampard would have to be banned. Which would be tragic as it was comedy gold.
 

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Yes i blame the child, they look old enough to know it stupid to throw an object onto the pitch. And if you dont think he old enough then the person escorting him should made sure he didnt act a twat.
For all we know the ball was his, he dropped it and the guys were giving it back to him not realising he wanted to throw it on the pitch on purpose. Though i not seen anything with the guy giving him it so i couldnt make a call unless they show it on MOTD.


And apparently there is a rule that hidden deep into the rules that even the officials dont seem to know about that apparently states there should have been a drop ball if the flight of a ball is influenced by something such as another ball etc. (steve bruce mentions it and says even he didnt know such a rule existed)

So under the rules it probably should have been disallowed, but as there was another precedent more recently set if this wasnt bought up then I guess the FA didnt think it mattered else refs would know about it.. unless they state they didnt see it hit the "balloon/ball"

<and all i remembered was it was red and white so thought sunderland, Sheffield United fits that as well so guess your right. lol>
 

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Don't be silly. A coin is meant to injure somebody. A balloon or a big red ball certainly doesn't have the same effect or intent. If the ruling was extended as you suggest then people who threw the match ball back onto the pitch would be banned.

And the guy at Villa Park the other year who threw a burger at Frank Lampard would have to be banned. Which would be tragic as it was comedy gold.

Cant be bothered to edit last post so just reply again to this now it come up :)

Entering the field = criminal offence. Doesnt matter if you run after someone or step onto the pitch just to touch it then go back into the crowd.

Throwing things onto the field of play should be treated the same no matter what it is. Bottle, coin, balls etc should all be treated the same so that everyone knows that behaviour isnt acceptable.
Is throwing flares onto field but not near a player acceptable? They not aiming to hurt a player but if I was an official I would request them to remove the fan before continuing a game. And stick a warning to stadium that the players will be ordered of the field if they do it again etc.

Maybe Im just being harsh in saying that the behaviour isnt acceptable no matter what being thrown. But that is just my view, sure sometimes it can be funny but doesnt mean it should be allowed
 

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What about ten pound notes? Should somebody be banned if they throw them on the pitch? :p
 

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