teh olde thread. as in content, not me you biznitches :p
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RandomBastard
Can't get enough of FH
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Where are you and what are you upto?
At home, attempting (currently unsuccesfully) to revise for my retake tommorow morning
Do you think what you do is worthwhile?
Erm, depends on what you mean. Yes and no.
When was the last time you were really pissed?
Slightly pissed, last week sometime.
Really pissed, last TSC social, few months back maybe.
Tell us a joke:
Erm, can't think of any, can I have a maths question?
Who was the last person you texted and what did it say?
Asked my dad for some info
Who would you least like to see naked?
Any of my relatives, espically those who are old and wrinkly.
Who would you like to punch?
Don't ask, too many people.
What does God look like?
Man cannot comprehend his form.
Who do you love?
Apart from relatives? Noone
What fantasy do you still have to fulfill?
Sail round the world, pass a maths exam with decent marks.
What's the best thing you've heard in the last 16 years musically?
Ohh a tough one... Well I believe the greatest song in the world to be Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody but breakbeat is the best music genre around
What's your idea of Heaven?
Not having to worry about exams, money or keeping fit.
And your idea of Hell?
Having to do a maths exam every hour of every day
What do you want 200 of?
Right now? cups of coffee
What's the best bit of advice you've ever recieved?
Work hard at your maths.
Who is the greatest living Englishman?
Living eh, apart from me.... hmm can't think of just one.
What's been the highlight of the last 16 years?
University!
And the low point?
University exams!
What's the worst chat-up line you've ever heard?
Get your coat luv you've pulled. Funny seeing the guy getting slapped though.
When was the last time you did the washing up?
Last night
What's next?
Revision!
At home, attempting (currently unsuccesfully) to revise for my retake tommorow morning
Do you think what you do is worthwhile?
Erm, depends on what you mean. Yes and no.
When was the last time you were really pissed?
Slightly pissed, last week sometime.
Really pissed, last TSC social, few months back maybe.
Tell us a joke:
Erm, can't think of any, can I have a maths question?
Who was the last person you texted and what did it say?
Asked my dad for some info
Who would you least like to see naked?
Any of my relatives, espically those who are old and wrinkly.
Who would you like to punch?
Don't ask, too many people.
What does God look like?
Man cannot comprehend his form.
Who do you love?
Apart from relatives? Noone
What fantasy do you still have to fulfill?
Sail round the world, pass a maths exam with decent marks.
What's the best thing you've heard in the last 16 years musically?
Ohh a tough one... Well I believe the greatest song in the world to be Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody but breakbeat is the best music genre around
What's your idea of Heaven?
Not having to worry about exams, money or keeping fit.
And your idea of Hell?
Having to do a maths exam every hour of every day
What do you want 200 of?
Right now? cups of coffee
What's the best bit of advice you've ever recieved?
Work hard at your maths.
Who is the greatest living Englishman?
Living eh, apart from me.... hmm can't think of just one.
What's been the highlight of the last 16 years?
University!
And the low point?
University exams!
What's the worst chat-up line you've ever heard?
Get your coat luv you've pulled. Funny seeing the guy getting slapped though.
When was the last time you did the washing up?
Last night
What's next?
Revision!
Louster
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Yeah the trouble is, you have people who are genuinely depressed, and then you have asshole bloggers who just want attention. Seriously, one of the problems of depression, being low self-esteem and all that entails, pretty much ensures that talking about it is hard as fuck.
I would consider myself to be borderline depressed for the last couple of years at least, and am gradually becoming more optimistic as stuff changes, but I definitely couldn't see myself advertising all my random problems to random people on the internet. Even the few times I spilled the beans on these forums (on those "life story" threads) I did it briefly and awkwardly, and almost instantly regretted posting afterwards.
I would consider myself to be borderline depressed for the last couple of years at least, and am gradually becoming more optimistic as stuff changes, but I definitely couldn't see myself advertising all my random problems to random people on the internet. Even the few times I spilled the beans on these forums (on those "life story" threads) I did it briefly and awkwardly, and almost instantly regretted posting afterwards.
Munkey
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Where are you and what are you upto?
Qatar, at home. Replying to this and waiting for sleep to catch up
Do you think what you do is worthwhile?
Not really.
When was the last time you were really pissed?
Last month. Everyons on holiday
Tell us a joke:
Why have elephant got 4 feet? Because 6 inches would just look silly
Who was the last person you texted and what did it say?
Friend girl. "Did you try phoning me at 8am? i woke up briefly but thought it was a dream, just checked and wasnt. still need me?"
Who would you least like to see naked?
The 498 pound dead woman
Who would you like to punch?
Bastards.
What does God look like?
Whatever i want him to look like, and i must say he does look lovely in a tutu
Who do you love?
Family. "Ray".
What fantasy do you still have to fulfill?
Win the Euro
What's the best thing you've heard in the last 16 years musically?
Squarepusher - Tundra
What's your idea of Heaven?
Fluffy.
And your idea of Hell?
Alcohol and heat
What do you want 200 of?
500 pound notes
What's the best bit of advice you've ever recieved?
Build a bridge and get over it
Who is the greatest living Welshman?
Ryan Giggs (dead? The pontypool front row!)
What's been the highlight of the last 16 years?
Falling in love for the first time
And the low point?
Falling out of love all the time
What's the worst chat-up line you've ever heard?
"Nice legs, what time do they open?"
When was the last time you did the washing up?
10 years ago. All hail the invention of the dishwasher
What's next?
Try to go to sleep
Qatar, at home. Replying to this and waiting for sleep to catch up
Do you think what you do is worthwhile?
Not really.
When was the last time you were really pissed?
Last month. Everyons on holiday
Tell us a joke:
Why have elephant got 4 feet? Because 6 inches would just look silly
Who was the last person you texted and what did it say?
Friend girl. "Did you try phoning me at 8am? i woke up briefly but thought it was a dream, just checked and wasnt. still need me?"
Who would you least like to see naked?
The 498 pound dead woman
Who would you like to punch?
Bastards.
What does God look like?
Whatever i want him to look like, and i must say he does look lovely in a tutu
Who do you love?
Family. "Ray".
What fantasy do you still have to fulfill?
Win the Euro
What's the best thing you've heard in the last 16 years musically?
Squarepusher - Tundra
What's your idea of Heaven?
Fluffy.
And your idea of Hell?
Alcohol and heat
What do you want 200 of?
500 pound notes
What's the best bit of advice you've ever recieved?
Build a bridge and get over it
Who is the greatest living Welshman?
Ryan Giggs (dead? The pontypool front row!)
What's been the highlight of the last 16 years?
Falling in love for the first time
And the low point?
Falling out of love all the time
What's the worst chat-up line you've ever heard?
"Nice legs, what time do they open?"
When was the last time you did the washing up?
10 years ago. All hail the invention of the dishwasher
What's next?
Try to go to sleep
Tom
I am a FH squatter
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Mobius said:
When I see people in this country moaning about what a shit life they have, when they have free medical care, free housing, a job (no matter how demeaning), and food on the table, it just makes me think how somebody from the 3rd world would look upon these 'problems'.
Not that I'm at all materialistic, but seriously, some people need to get a proper perspective on things. I know I have a good standard of living, and god knows I don't have a perfect family life, but at least I can laugh at the end of the day.
nath
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I don't really want to get in to a big arguement here, but on this particular matter you seem to be completely clueless, Tom.
Edit: More constructively - it's not always useful to have "perspective". There's always someone worse off, but if you don't deal with your own problems (which sometimes requires long periods of just feeling shit) then they won't just magicly go away.
Edit: More constructively - it's not always useful to have "perspective". There's always someone worse off, but if you don't deal with your own problems (which sometimes requires long periods of just feeling shit) then they won't just magicly go away.
Turamber
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Tom said:
I used to think exactly the same way you do but genuine depression is unaffected by such matters, and is far more than just "moaning". The problem that counsellors have with more youthful sufferers is identifying those 'merely' suffering with teenage angst and those who are genuinely depressed.
Depression is often more about who we are than what we eat and where we work.
Tom
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nath said:
Perhaps thats because I don't choose to post my woes here?
Everybody has problems, and I'm sorry if some people have worse problems than others, but if you post about your shelf stacking job and say you have a shit life, at the age of 17, I can only assume that somebody needs a giant kick up the arse.
Louster
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Maybe, but having never suffered from it yourself, obviously, and perhaps thus lacking any capacity for empathy, you're free to believe whatever you wish about the workings of other people's minds. If you honestly believe, as you seem to be implying, that "depressed people just need a kick up the backside", then you have been taken in by a myth, and really do not have any idea of what is meant by the word "depression" (or at least, clinical depression).
As I said, read up on it.
As I said, read up on it.
Tom
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Sorry, but I believe common sense will prevail. I'm sure that clinical depression is a chemical imbalance in the brain or similar, and therefore can be classed as an illness, but I just don't believe for one moment that such things are insurmountable without the help of drugs or counselling.
I read the papers and I see people consuming vast quantities of anadins, spraying their kitchens and homes with miracle anti-bacterial products, getting neurotic because they can't stand the thought of spiders living in their homes, etc. I see people become incensed on the road because they were 'cut up'. I hear stories of people tripping on pavements and sueing the council. The list goes on.
Call me a thick-headed lancastrian, but I don't ever forget for one moment that I'm responsible for my own actions, and my own state of mind. I've seen friends fall by the wayside from school because of alcohol addiction, and I've seen a good friend of mine who I've known since the age of 4 become consumed by drug abuse. Don't presume that just because my opinion differs from other peoples, that I am ignorant of life. I may know more about these things than you imagine. I'd even venture as far as to say that my family life wasn't particularly great, but that would be selfish considering what other people go through.
The fact is, I never got into alcohol in a big way. I have only ever smoked cannabis, and tbh was bored shitless by it. My days before I started working used to be spent riding 100 miles a week on my racing bike. I've always been that kind of person. I believe that if others adopted a more common sense approach to life, then things would become a lot simpler.
Mobius, call me ignorant, but the only person who can do anything about your life is you. Not medication, not your family, but you. If you hate your job, then quit. Find something you do like, and do that instead.
I read the papers and I see people consuming vast quantities of anadins, spraying their kitchens and homes with miracle anti-bacterial products, getting neurotic because they can't stand the thought of spiders living in their homes, etc. I see people become incensed on the road because they were 'cut up'. I hear stories of people tripping on pavements and sueing the council. The list goes on.
Call me a thick-headed lancastrian, but I don't ever forget for one moment that I'm responsible for my own actions, and my own state of mind. I've seen friends fall by the wayside from school because of alcohol addiction, and I've seen a good friend of mine who I've known since the age of 4 become consumed by drug abuse. Don't presume that just because my opinion differs from other peoples, that I am ignorant of life. I may know more about these things than you imagine. I'd even venture as far as to say that my family life wasn't particularly great, but that would be selfish considering what other people go through.
The fact is, I never got into alcohol in a big way. I have only ever smoked cannabis, and tbh was bored shitless by it. My days before I started working used to be spent riding 100 miles a week on my racing bike. I've always been that kind of person. I believe that if others adopted a more common sense approach to life, then things would become a lot simpler.
Mobius, call me ignorant, but the only person who can do anything about your life is you. Not medication, not your family, but you. If you hate your job, then quit. Find something you do like, and do that instead.
Louster
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Again, you show that you don't really understand what depression is. Google for this, and you will find that basically all the resources online say the same thing - that a truly depressed person simply can not "snap out of it". They physically lack the ability and willpower to become proactive about their life and make the changes needed (as you assume that all humans MUST be able to if they had just a little more moral fibre!)
Of course, there are varying degrees to this, and a person with mild depression may benefit from a gentle nudge in the right direction, but you seem not to realise the effect that telling someone to "buck up" would have. Do you think that belittling someone's problem, and telling them that it's nobody's fault but theirs, that the responsibility for "getting better" rests on nobody's shoulders but theirs, will help make them feel any better? Do you think that saying that "the only person who can do anything about your life is you" will help someone that believes, at the core of their being, that they are worthless, that their life is doomed, and that they would be better off dead? This is the way a depressed person's mind works. They have no control over this. People cannot make a conscious, snap decision and alter the fundamental way their brain is operating.
It's rare for a depressed person to actually WANT to be depressed (and if this is the case, it probably isn't actually depression - more likely some sort of neurosis), and considering this, and taking your belief that, clearly, everyone has it in their ability to solve their own problems, it's funny that it should be such a widespread problem, no?
Of course, there are varying degrees to this, and a person with mild depression may benefit from a gentle nudge in the right direction, but you seem not to realise the effect that telling someone to "buck up" would have. Do you think that belittling someone's problem, and telling them that it's nobody's fault but theirs, that the responsibility for "getting better" rests on nobody's shoulders but theirs, will help make them feel any better? Do you think that saying that "the only person who can do anything about your life is you" will help someone that believes, at the core of their being, that they are worthless, that their life is doomed, and that they would be better off dead? This is the way a depressed person's mind works. They have no control over this. People cannot make a conscious, snap decision and alter the fundamental way their brain is operating.
It's rare for a depressed person to actually WANT to be depressed (and if this is the case, it probably isn't actually depression - more likely some sort of neurosis), and considering this, and taking your belief that, clearly, everyone has it in their ability to solve their own problems, it's funny that it should be such a widespread problem, no?
mank!
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Tom, you really haven't got a clue whatsoever. You have no idea what you're talking about, so you should probably do yourself a favour and shut up. You have absolutely no grasp of what suffering from depression is like, whether you know people who have suffered or not.
Louster: I know what you mean about pouring your heart out to random people. I don't usually do it and I regret posting what I did earlier in the thread but it's too late to change it now. I don't usually indulge in self-pity in public forums, honest.
Louster: I know what you mean about pouring your heart out to random people. I don't usually do it and I regret posting what I did earlier in the thread but it's too late to change it now. I don't usually indulge in self-pity in public forums, honest.
Turamber
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Tom said:
I had meant to write a little more in reply to you this morning, but the client came in mid-post so I had to cut it a little short
Depression is a terrible affliction, and it can be difficult for people who have no personal experience to understand or see the difference between genuine depression and somebody feeling 'a bit down'.It's also quite possible that some people who are just feeling 'a bit down' to exaggerate their state of mind and think they are depressed. Just like some people with a cold and a medical handbook sometimes think they have a rare form of West African swamp fever
It isn't that long ago, Tom, that you posted about your cat dying. I felt your pain because I have also lost a family pet - it was poisoned by our neighbours (nice people). But to people that have no pets, or no attachment to them, your loss means nothing and you are just making a fuss over nothing.
I hope that you never have to suffer depression, but it would be nice if you could show a little more respect and consideration for people's feelings. Because even if they are exaggerating how bad they feel that is something for them to discover and act on, not for you to decide.