Strafing in RvR.

[Kahland]

Strafing is great.

 

[VodkaFairy]

Originally posted by Rulke-RM
well its relative really, the better I strafe the less damage I take. Or the tank who /sticks then spams anytime with side/rear backup.
Which is more skilled?

And yeah Asha its not very nice to people we're playing against, but then again neither is running with 4 healers and 3 savages

lol are you for real?

Let's annoy everyone to hell and back just because they have a small advantage in mainstream rvr atm. If you want everyone to play "fair" then do it yourself.

Not too hard is it? Justifying your own lame behaviour with "BTU DEY STARTET!" is childish and stupid.

 

[alme]

Originally posted by Rulke-RM
well its relative really, the better I strafe the less damage I take. Or the tank who /sticks then spams anytime with side/rear backup.
Which is more skilled?

And yeah Asha its not very nice to people we're playing against, but then again neither is running with 4 healers and 3 savages

i havent said spamming anytime is skill, but its not abusing lag, which strafing is. And i just find it fucking funny that u not only run in grps who in theory shouldnt be able to lose but u need to abuse lag aswell.

 

[Rulke-RM]

Originally posted by VodkaFairy
lol are you for real?

Let's annoy everyone to hell and back just because they have a small advantage in mainstream rvr atm. If you want everyone to play "fair" then do it yourself.

Not too hard is it? Justifying your own lame behaviour with "BTU DEY STARTET!" is childish and stupid.

So, I have 3 BMs attacking me. What do I do? I could run from them, letting them do high damage back styles or having a good chance at a 7 second stun.
Or I could stand still, meaning they can do any positional they want on me.
Or I can face letting them style 100% on me and my shield does f*ck all vs dual wield.
Would you like me to sit down as well? Or take off my armour maybe?

Aww but then you wouldnt have any excuse when we trounce you ;(

P.S strafing to avoid damage is about the same level of game abuse as using level 7 pets to interupt, except theres a fairly simple way of hitting folk who strafe a lot.

 

[Flimgoblin]

you could die that's what people who don't cheat tend to do

 

[zerz]

I cant really Understand allso This strafe and running through whining ....

Good Points why we have strafe Keys ?
-- Should we really just stand there face / face and whack.... Why we cant move ? You seek positionals, You try to avoid Positionals ....etc. Everybody can DO it so why to moan !

Or Why target have to be On Sight when You cast or Hit ?
--- You all mages (myself allso with many chars) .... as tank point of view Do I really have to stand in front Of You when You Hit Me with Nuke 1.5 sec timer like 500 + Jeesus No way.....or as with my warrior ...Who cant Do anything if I dont reach mage....and When I reach mage I shield stun he uses purge/moc....ofc I run through You....jee Come on ! and again everybody can Do this...why to moan...or just make PB area fellow...and push that Nice Button when you Hit 700-800 and drop every char in game 4 sec

 

[alme]

Originally posted by Rulke-RM
So, I have 3 BMs attacking me. What do I do? I could run from them, letting them do high damage back styles or having a good chance at a 7 second stun.
Or I could stand still, meaning they can do any positional they want on me.
Or I can face letting them style 100% on me and my shield does f*ck all vs dual wield.
Would you like me to sit down as well? Or take off my armour maybe?

Aww but then you wouldnt have any excuse when we trounce you ;(

P.S strafing to avoid damage is about the same level of game abuse as using level 7 pets to interupt, except theres a fairly simple way of hitting folk who strafe a lot.

fuck me, didnt know i had a 7 sec stun from behind.
sit down? yea sure if u wanna do that. or u could
get a guard bot?
get heals?
die?
and yes u can also run since were constantly diseased vs mids.

second of u all u dont face 3-4 svgs, so u got no fucking right to whine that u die too easy.

 

[Rulke-RM]

Originally posted by Flimgoblin
you could die that's what people who don't cheat tend to do

I ain't going to die to some PF-abusing, CC immune, dual wielding fotm, assist using, anytime spamming tank without a fight.

For the past year (very witty) people have been calling it Dark age of Tankalot, which was true really. But look at the tanks cry when they find they cant kill someone inside 3 seconds

 

[alme]

Originally posted by Rulke-RM
I ain't going to die to some PF-abusing, CC immune, dual wielding fotm, assist using, anytime spamming tank without a fight.

For the past year (very witty) people have been calling it Dark age of Tankalot, which was true really. But look at the tanks cry when they find they cant kill someone inside 3 seconds

nah i bet ure fine since ure tanks can still do it.

 

[Rulke-RM]

Originally posted by alme
fuck me, didnt know i had a 7 sec stun from behind.

Originally posted by Rulke-RM
So, I have 3 BMs attacking me. What do I do? I could run from them, letting them do high damage back styles or having a good chance at a 7 second stun.

Guess I have to use smaller words than "or" to avoid confusing you :/

4BM trains have killed my fully buffed shaman inside 1 or 2 combat rounds numerous times, but I just shrug it off as a game and get on with playing it.

[edit] how is my 15% snare supposed to help vs 85%(?) snare on PF (which takes skill to use ofc), PF doesnt have a cure spell on 3+ chars in your groups either

 

[alme]

Originally posted by Rulke-RM
Guess I have to use smaller words than "or" to avoid confusion you :/

4BM trains have killed my fully buffed shaman inside 1 or 2 combat rounds numerous times, but I just shrug it off as a game and get on with playing it.

didnt know i had a 7 sec stun at all. Unless u mean the powerfull 3 sec stun on side style? And yes sure, i bet 4 bms kill rather fast. And what would we drop in grp to get the 4th bm.

 

[alme]

oh wait, we can drop the spd bot! cuz i feel were not powerfull enuff.

 

[gunner440]

Originally posted by alme
And what would we drop in grp to get the 4th bm.

the bard

duh isnt it obvious?!¿?

and use eld mezz and warden speed or whatever ur setup is

 

[Rulke-RM]

Sorry my mistake, 4 second side stun. Makes it more annoying when you get killed inside it I suppose.

 

[VodkaFairy]

Erm, rulke, stop making a fool out of yourself. You obviously have no fucking clue what so ever at rvr balance regarding mid and hib tank groups.

Against a good assist train you're going to have to rely on your warrior and healers. Not on bugs.

And then consider the situation for hibs, with your tanks dealing alot more damage, a savage assist train can kill a tank with red str/con buff faster than I can cast a heal. But that doesn't mean they should abuse bugs.

You're just lame, and if you keep your current attitude no wonder people will use strafing against your groups... its your loss really, but im not going to resort to cheating just because I can't take dying.

 

[Rulke-RM]

Originally posted by VodkaFairy
Erm, rulke, stop making a fool out of yourself. You obviously have no fucking clue what so ever at rvr balance regarding mid and hib tank groups.

Against a good assist train you're going to have to rely on your warrior and healers. Not on bugs.

And then consider the situation for hibs, with your tanks dealing alot more damage, a savage assist train can kill a tank with red str/con buff faster than I can cast a heal. But that doesn't mean they should abuse bugs.

You're just lame, and if you keep your current attitude no wonder people will use strafing against your groups... its your loss really, but im not going to resort to cheating just because I can't take dying.

Damn and the opinion of the long term whiners on this board means so much to me

And when I said assist trains had killed me I meant good ones like BaF, BF and AD, not VGN and LA, which I ruled out with the word "assist"

 

[VodkaFairy]

Originally posted by Rulke-RM
Damn and the opinion of the long term whiners on this board means so much to me

And when I said assist trains had killed me I meant good ones like BaF, BF and AD, not VGN and LA, which I ruled out with the word "assist"

Your point is?

You'll just keep abusing bugs because you can't take dying? Aww

 

[Rulke-RM]

Dunno didnt really have a point, was just having a cheap dig at VGN and LA

 

[Divinia]

two pages strafe whine and not a word about the strafemistress

 

[acei]

Originally posted by Asha
it's not the point if it's easy or a part of the game - wall bugs are a part of the game. No you can't dmg while strafing, but as a healer/support you are doing things just by being up. It's cheating to be able to avoid getting hits like that.

Wall bugs are not a intentional part of the game. Strafing is intentional, we know it's intentional because of the lower chance for the person strafing to get off a style.

I don't see why tanks expect their enemy to stand there and die when there's a better and ingame-legal alternative e.g. i can avoid "some" attacks by strafing.

Oh and for your witty response i only lost the 1 vs 1 with the skald because he used IP and my mezz was resisted.

 

[angara-ffs]

lol, lets just all stand still or sit down when we get hit!!!11
And to all the hypocrites who say they dont use it:

Liar liar pants on fire....

 

[VodkaFairy]

Originally posted by angara-ffs
lol, lets just all stand still or sit down when we get hit!!!11
And to all the hypocrites who say they dont use it:

Liar liar pants on fire....

I do stand still actually Wait till their sprint cancels and then run away, but nowadays I'm dead before that happens usually

 

[Rulke-RM]

The single best tactic is on mfg walls, open the room doors and stand just inside, then when they close the tanks on you get trapped inside the doors

Best part is they have to get someone else to open them

 

[Belomar]

That last part is widely used by Hib PBAE groups.

 

[old.Ramas]

I guarantee the existence of this post has brought knowledge of the strafe bug to whole new group of players who were unaware of it till now.

Good job.

 

[old.Icebreaker]

Well what can i say. hmm

I don't like it and i don't think its working as intended.
But it's the Players who make the Game what it is now and there is nothing you can do about it. So we have to live with it....

I for one don't do it and most Enemies i meet start with this shit when they are about to loose and they loose anyway against me.

For Mages it is hard enough allready with the Tank assist Trains. I don't wanna make it even harder for them with strafe and run through shit. Fair fights is what i love

 

[old.Ramas]

On the subject of a beefed up /face, it could work - but currently /face is client side ( to the server it looks no different to the player manually facing the location that the client currently believes the enemy is in).

If you made /face = always in view, I'd have thought you'd have to make it server side (to stop it being hackable). This means you'd have a 0.2-0.5 second delay going into and out of /face. (remember this means up to 0.5 second root when moving off or chasing the opponent)

If tanks are happy with that - then it would seem a solid solution.

 

[Arnor]

Originally posted by acei
Strafing is part of the game and is VERY easy to do... i use it in duels, even forced a skald to use his IP because my cleric was about to kill him 1 - 1... and my cleric is rejuv/enh not smite

you are a fucking retard

 

[Hotandsandy]

Can't understand the fuss - there's a strafe button and it's been there for ages.

I use strafe all the time with my cleric if Im tanked, I used to use it sometimes with my friar if the need arose. It certainly has kept me alive on one or two 1v1s.

I think it's an essential tactic for non tanks. As someone else said, its not a bug, its intentional - so whats the problem?

 

[Rulke-RM]

Originally posted by Hotandsandy
Can't understand the fuss - there's a strafe button and it's been there for ages.

I use strafe all the time with my cleric if Im tanked, I used to use it sometimes with my friar if the need arose. It certainly has kept me alive on one or two 1v1s.

I think it's an essential tactic for non tanks. As someone else said, its not a bug, its intentional - so whats the problem?

People getting upset cos they can't just /assist, /stick, style