Sorry Hibs looks like you're no longer officially the underdog realm :-)

[Etzel]

OK I was bored this morning and checked out the new population bonuses for the US servers (link on the Herald), made for some interesting reading especially since this is post Catacombs and the Mids massively overpowered Warlock

Server/Level Reward Days/Camp Bonus/RVR Bonus/Hookpoint Purchases

Bedevere
Albion 6 80% 0% 0%
Hibernia 2 120% 20% 50%
Midgard 2 120% 20% 50%
Bors
Albion 4 100% 5% 0%
Hibernia 4 100% 5% 0%
Midgard 4 100% 5% 0%
Galahad
Albion 7 70% 0% 0%
Hibernia 3 110% 10% 50%
Midgard 3 110% 10% 50%
Gawaine
Albion 6 80% 0% 0%
Hibernia 6 80% 0% 0%
Midgard 2 120% 20% 50%
Guinevere
Albion 7 60% 0% 0%
Hibernia 7 60% 0% 0%
Midgard 5 90% 8% 50%
Igraine
Albion 6 80% 0% 0%
Hibernia 6 80% 0% 0%
Midgard 2 120% 20% 50%
Iseult
Albion 6 80% 0% 0%
Hibernia 6 80% 0% 0%
Midgard 2 120% 20% 50%
Kay
Albion 4 100% 5% 0%
Hibernia 4 100% 5% 0%
Midgard 4 100% 5% 0%
Lancelot
Albion 6 80% 0% 0%
Hibernia 6 80% 0% 0%
Midgard 7 60% 0% 0%
Merlin
Albion 7 60% 0% 0%
Hibernia 5 90% 8% 50%
Midgard 5 90% 8% 50%
Morgan Le Fay
Albion 5 90% 0% 0%
Hibernia 5 90% 0% 0%
Midgard 5 90% 0% 0%
Nimue
Albion 4 100% 5% 0%
Hibernia 4 100% 5% 0%
Midgard 4 100% 5% 0%
Palomides
Albion 6 80% 0% 0%
Hibernia 2 120% 20% 50%
Midgard 2 120% 20% 50%
Pellinor
Albion 6 80% 0% 0%
Hibernia 6 80% 0% 0%
Midgard 2 120% 20% 50%
Percival
Albion 7 70% 0% 0%
Hibernia 3 110% 10% 50%
Midgard 3 110% 10% 50%
Tristan
Albion 6 80% 0% 0%
Hibernia 6 80% 0% 0%
Midgard 2 120% 20% 50%

By my calculations thats 1 server with Mid advantage, 4 balanced servers, 5 servers where hib/mid both suffer and 6 servers where mid alone suffer

Yay for Mid getting underdog whining rights (and no i'm not whining, I still keep playing but i'm just showing that the Mids saying we are hurting aren't just whining due to loss of our gank groups, it's a worlwide problem)

 

[Puppet]

Im pleased to see the population on Tristan and Merlin affects the population on Prydwen.

 

[Etzel]

Im pleased to see the population on Tristan and Merlin affects the population on Prydwen.

What happens in the US is normally mirrored over here a few months later, have you never done/heard of trend analysis?

 

[Jobil]

What happens in the US is normally mirrored over here a few months later, have you never done/heard of trend analysis?

i always gave us credit for being innovative...

 

[Jupiter]

Im pleased to see the population on Tristan and Merlin affects the population on Prydwen.

hahhaha, what he said tbh, ur logic and reasoning is flawed

 

[Xxcalibur]

sorry but hibs are stil underpopulation realm. The thingy is we are serius in rvr and can send 90 % hib / pryd players to one RR , imo mids learn a bit, keep dreaming u are less players than hib

 

[xxManiacxx]

well for the last week when doing /who all and comparing to alb/hib mid and hib has had the same population with alb having aprox 100+ more ppl

 

[AngelHeal]

well, Hibernia Prydwen can't be compared to anything else I think.
It has a, dunno how to call it, but it's a realm fealing orso.. dunno how to expres smyself, but it's very handy to have.
Hibernia on Prydwen is very organised, when there's a big raid 90% of the Hibernians are there, and yus we have got "gank groups" but they don't feel better then other hibs (as in: hey we are uber, and we dont talk / do things with other people).

 

[Boggy]

What happens in the US is normally mirrored over here a few months later, have you never done/heard of trend analysis?

One of the exceptions to this in NF has been prydwen. In the US, servers with a population spread similar to ours saw Albs completely dominate the server in 1.70. They haven't done that on pryd.

I'm sad to see Middies coming down to our numbers (and even going further down). All it means is there's more of an imbalance towards Albs, which doesn't help the game.

The trouble is, Mythic won't do anything drastic unless our populations drop to unplayable levels for ALBS. As long as there's enough Hibs and Mids to make the game interesting for Albs, Mythic won't mind too much if we have to struggle. It'll only be when there are too few of us for Albion to have fun that something real gets done (like enforced pop balances we should have had from day 1).

 

[saitoh]

Im pleased to see the population on Tristan and Merlin affects the population on Prydwen.

haha , 1st time i agree with puppet

 

[Dumle]

Im pleased to see the population on Tristan and Merlin affects the population on Prydwen.

In a sense the european servers will always be affected by the US servers.

They are a few patches ahead of us and you can from them learn what the major issues to come will be and thus can discourage/encourage people before it has even come here.

When the trend i US is that mids are getting their asses kicked from here to sundown ofcourse some will abandon ship to get characters on other realms as fast as they can to get some fun out of the game.
Same would have been probably if any other realm was in the same situation, people would go to other realms or try different games.

Its common sense.

 

[Pudzy]

Nice of you to show the hibs on PRYDWEN the server populaiton listings from the UNITED STATES. Clearly your pointing out some good facts m8!

 

[Bhalage]

vikings never cry m8s
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[Azathrim]

Ok then, if you insist. Let us look at the Prydwen data then:

Last weeks RPs:
Albion: 22 472 644
Hibernia: 13 352 737
Midgard: 13 038 897

Seems like both Midgard and Hibernia should be underdog realms.

 

[Tesla Monkor]

It's not the server population listing. It's the server bonus listing.. Though the US servers are not the European ones, the same shit is already happening over here. Just because it's not here, doesn't mean it's not happening here.

 

[Brite]

sorry but hibs are stil underpopulation realm. The thingy is we are serius in rvr and can send 90 % hib / pryd players to one RR , imo mids learn a bit, keep dreaming u are less players than hib

asked albs and hibs what the /who ALL was the other day

283 hibs
284 mids
460 albs

1 player! such underdog !

 

[Zapsi]

Seems like a good place to test new Avatar

 

[VidX]

asked albs and hibs what the /who ALL was the other day

283 hibs
284 mids
460 albs

1 player! such underdog !

You forget, 4 of the Hib accounts running at the time were probably mine!

Chanter, Grapple/BG-bot, crack-bot, buffbot

J/K, can only run 3 at a time with any usefullness hehe

 

[Etzel]

One of the exceptions to this in NF has been prydwen. In the US, servers with a population spread similar to ours saw Albs completely dominate the server in 1.70. They haven't done that on pryd.

So what you're really saying is as well as substandard service from GOA we also get substandard Albs

 

[Sparrow]

You forget, 4 of the Hib accounts running at the time were probably mine!

Chanter, Grapple/BG-bot, crack-bot, buffbot

J/K, can only run 3 at a time with any usefullness hehe

We all know you ran 120 of those chars, that's where you get your zergs from!

 

[Jupiter]

asked albs and hibs what the /who ALL was the other day

283 hibs
284 mids
460 albs

1 player! such underdog !

u forgot the 150 anon mids at Byrjan (sp) Bridge, yes i know its shameful and wouldnt blame u for being anon

 

[Azathrim]

I think it's a very long time since there have been 150 Mids actively playing in the frontier zones, unfortunately.

 

[Aldrick]

Hibernia on Prydwen is very organised, when there's a big raid 90% of the Hibernians are there, and yus we have got "gank groups" but they don't feel better then other hibs (as in: hey we are uber, and we dont talk / do things with other people).

So you saying mids suck because the gankgroups in mid think they are uber and dont need to talk to other ppl and do things with them? Not like there is many gg:s left in mid, but i can only speak for BO and we all share the same view (more or less atleast) Keepfights and zerging is just boring and thats why we try to do that as little as possible, sometimes we do them anyway but we try to stay away from keeps as much as possible just because we find it boring, not because we think we are too uber to speak with realmmates.

Ofc relics would be nice to have but the cost to have them is too large, having to defend keeps every day just ruins the fun with rvr for us whats the point? Especially since it seems like there is a large number of albs that loves zerging and keeptakes and who can blaim them with their classes.

 

[AngelHeal]

do you guys really think that if goa makes u a "udnerpopulated realm" that u suddenly can wtfpwn all?

 

[Naffets]

Im pleased to see the population on Tristan and Merlin affects the population on Prydwen.

That makes two of us...

 

[AngelHeal]

So you saying mids suck because the gankgroups in mid think they are uber and dont need to talk to other ppl and do things with them? Not like there is many gg:s left in mid, but i can only speak for BO and we all share the same view (more or less atleast) Keepfights and zerging is just boring and thats why we try to do that as little as possible, sometimes we do them anyway but we try to stay away from keeps as much as possible just because we find it boring, not because we think we are too uber to speak with realmmates.

Ofc relics would be nice to have but the cost to have them is too large, having to defend keeps every day just ruins the fun with rvr for us whats the point? Especially since it seems like there is a large number of albs that loves zerging and keeptakes and who can blaim them with their classes.

Well, so you find it boring... then go pve etc...
or do you find it boring because you cant find a decent group setup for keep takes?

 

[Azathrim]

Do you guys really think that if GOA makes you an "Underpopulated Realm" that you suddenly can 'wtfpwn' all?

No.

We think we might be able to attract a few more players into or back into Midgard.

We think we might be able to upgrade a tower or keep faster and hold it for longer at a higher level than currently.

We know though, that the current population issues doesn't get fixed through that. The US servers have proven this and Mythic acknowledged it.

Just beware Albs. If Mythic fails to stop the current developement you will have noone to fight against except a few die-hards from each realm. I for one would hate that, as I still love the game but even a die-hard can see what is happening at the moment.

Empty frontiers is no fun.

 

[Litmus]

There you go.. active population for mid is 5%lower then alb, and 5%more then hib. There for hib is the underdog realm. However hibs did get more rp last week which only means hib is very active in rvr.

Albion: overpopulated realm.
Hib: underdog but active in rvr.
Mid: Lazy disorganized realm.

If Mids actualy tryed siegeing a keep in an enemy frontier instead of bled bridge then maybe just maybe they would get somewhere.

 

[Azathrim]

Number of active characters means little.

Number of characters with LW rp above 10K means a little more.

But Litmus, you are then in all seriousness saying that:

- The trend on the US servers are that Midgard turns even more underpopulated.
- Mythic changes certain things in an attempt to help the underpopulated Midgard servers.

Yet, Midgard Prydwen performs drasticly bad, but against all trends this is just them being lazy?

Uhm yes, I agree. Midgard is disorganised at the moment. We face many issues. One of them being the attitude of certain 'gank groups'.

Another is being underpopulated.

 

[Lejemorder]

Number of active characters means little.

Number of characters with LW rp above 10K means a little more.

But Litmus, you are then in all seriousness saying that:

- The trend on the US servers are that Midgard turns even more underpopulated.
- Mythic changes certain things in an attempt to help the underpopulated Midgard servers.

Yet, Midgard Prydwen performs drasticly bad, but against all trends this is just them being lazy?

Uhm yes, I agree. Midgard is disorganised at the moment. We face many issues. One of them being the attitude of certain 'gank groups'.

Another is being underpopulated.

only reason hibs still stand is because of the underpopulated bonus, its the only reason we still got all our keeps at high lvls, and most of our towers claimed.

then looking on the war map, alb actully got less towers claimed then hib, why? because its a very few guilds in alb there get there rps, rest of the albs cant claim towers as it to expensive for em (or they just lack the last organisation to get em claimed)