sorcerers

[Jobbegea]

make baseline nukes less powerfull then spec nukes..
make lifetap 3.0sec cast time with only 30%hp return

 

[gohan]

warlock nerf wasnt REALLY ott as they can still drop a stealther that PA's them before then can even swing for CD

but ye sorc pop has risen... i dont mind too much as can 1 hit all the low RR sorcs for fun but they cast so danm fast an if they have moc its game over

only nerf they cud do to drop the pop is make the castspeed for LT a bit longer, woundnt kill the class atall but wud make all the "solo with ML9 pet sorcs" disapeer sharpish.

or maybe just give them 1hp run into a FG of sorcs drop a poisenspike an get 16k rpts, sounds good to me

 

[gohan]

nerf you typing faster an more to the point than me :<, thought i think even if base line nuke did more dam people wud favour lifetap still, an 30% return on LT wud be a huge nerf specialy if the damage on LT wasnt even as good as spec nuke

 

[Bondoila]

It's the ml9 pets thats needs a nerf(shouldn't do tank dmg). When moc, you shouldn't gain any hp from LT and without moc only get 25% back. This is genral changes that should be made to all realms.

 

[Void959]

Baseline DPS isn't quite as high as spec nukes, unless you're a bainshee in which case its higher

 

[Wazkyr]

remove stun on hib casters, remove insta lt and intercept pet, remove lt? We all got something in our realm that can be "I win" at times, but removing it wont do much good will it? Just make the game less complex.
Wanna do like wow, 9 of the same classes on both realms, with minimal diffrence? Then we wont get qq you got that and that and that threads...
Ifs the diffrence that makes the game fun

 

[Septina]

remove stun on hib casters, remove insta lt and intercept pet, remove lt? We all got something in our realm that can be "I win" at times, but removing it wont do much good will it? Just make the game less complex.
Wanna do like wow, 9 of the same classes on both realms, with minimal diffrence? Then we wont get qq you got that and that and that threads...
Ifs the diffrence that makes the game fun

Difference is one thing, having almost 50% of the alb population consist of one class is another... Theres far too many sorcs atm and the class does destroy solo and small scale rvr

This thread has nothing to do with the sorc being an 'i win class' at times, its about every 2nd albion having a sorc and running around mezzing/lifetapping everything in sight.

 

[Labbe]

Difference is one thing, having almost 50% of the alb population consist of one class is another... Theres far too many sorcs atm and the class does destroy solo and small scale rvr

This thread has nothing to do with the sorc being an 'i win class' at times, its about every 2nd albion having a sorc and running around mezzing/lifetapping everything in sight.

Can agree to this. But I have no clue really in how to fix it. But I must say that the bolt range is a bit op in both zerg vs zerg and fg vs fg. Personally I don't think insta cc is that important now days(might be me that is a total cluebie). Since that game now days is more or less a question who can interupt the most and that bolt range ae interupt is giving me a hell of a time keeping up)

 

[Gilbride]

Can agree to this. But I have no clue really in how to fix it. But I must say that the bolt range is a bit op in both zerg vs zerg and fg vs fg. Personally I don't think insta cc is that important now days(might be me that is a total cluebie). Since that game now days is more or less a question who can interupt the most and that bolt range ae interupt is giving me a hell of a time keeping up)

Erhm, being a hib myself, I probably shouldn't be saying this and all that, but in all fairness, between bards and bainshees (if bainshees choose to spec for it) we got 2 classes w/ 2300+rangeincrease aeinterrupt. One of these being instant. Mids're the ones who got the shaft in this area. We all know sorc got boltrange mez due to the lack of instas, and at that time it was quite highly warranted. These days, I'm not really gonna start QQ'ing about boltrange mez, because IMO, it's not just instacc that's fallen out of grace, it's initial mez altogether. It's not the "I win" it once was.

Albs do have a rather amazing interrupter, but it's not really the sorcs...

But that's all a bit off-topic, the thread was QQ Sorcs! And I'm not sure I can bring myself to do that, as has been mentioned before, sorcs are such a vital part of a group, any major changes aren't really viable. Sure, I'll agree it sucks with all the bandwagonning FOTMsorcs, but then again.. what to do? We're most probably not gonna see an entire revamp of the sorcclass, that simple. Sooner or later I guess some people get tired of being on the bandwagon.

 

[brad]

Noskill guild yea ok if you say so ...:worthy:

and brad dont worry im sure we will find you before you fing us pal ...

Find me and still die then.

Remember a good memory at DC when you kilsimba and obelix the ranger poped me, and all died. If you want to do the same again, then by all means.

Just reinstates the fact that yes, all you do is run around in a zerg killing soloers, but im up for it. It's apart of the game though, if you wanna zerg around like you normally do then you do it, if people want to roam around playing a sorc as it's conparitively easier than most chars to play, then they do it.

 

[Tuppe]

Baseline DPS isn't quite as high as spec nukes, unless you're a bainshee in which case its higher

some TL made tests whit LT:s ~1/2y ago, think it was sorcs, and find theres hidden 7% dmg bonus on LT:s.
peeps made guess this was because lifetaps have "higher" resistsrates what normal nukes.
this 7% hidden bonus rise lt:s higher what same lvl basedd:s.
dont even talk runemaster rc lines spec 3 sec dd comparing to lt:s.

someone rise bones healing pets as unique, sadly enchanter have healing pet, charming classes aka sorc and ment can charm mobs what heals, and even better what bones pets.
sm pets intercept ratio is ~80% when pet is same pixel what caster, longer distance between pet/caster, down goes intercept.
personally love sorcs yellow ml9 pets who hit ~800dmg each swing, put there every sec ~500dmg nuke, who was again hardest hitting caster in game?uke:

 

[Shike]

what bondoila said..

make sorcs about as good as most other casters at solo/duo etc and its fine. There is no caster running around as much as sorcs, just because they can. SoI is too good, mocLT is too good, ML9 is too good.. and all in one class. Not really what I call balanced

 

[eggy]

The long-range mez is needed to combat the fact that every hib group has speed5+SOS, and both realms have insta-mez. Try winning the mez on a group popping out from under the water, or over a ridge; insta wins.

Sorcs are a decent class; but you can't just "nerf sorcs" and expect things to be fine and dandy. In group fights we're just as vunerable as any other caster; more vunerable in fact than SMs at least.

 

[Elrandhir]

As I said before, they are just a silly class with all the things they have, I would happily trade baseline stun for that utility.

 

[Konah]

i dont think lifetap is OP on a cloth wearing primary cc class. nerf it/adjust it and give them chain, shield, evade2 and phaseshift? sure, deal.

 

[Gahn]

Don't think point is ppl moaning at sorcs in 8 vs 8, problem lies in the multitude of "solo" sorcs going round pwning ppl with all the tools they can have at higher levels (and played decently), add on top of that all the "am not so good at playing class but i'll jump in any fight i see and get off a mezz and leet lt to leech rps" and et voilà the moan is served.
That ofc goes for all the casters leeching on all realms, prolly Sorcs spring to mind more cause there are literally tons of em running round, even wondering if there are nuff Grannies and Grogans for all of em -.-

 

[Konah]

SoI is too good, mocLT is too good, ML9 is too good.. and all in one class. Not really what I call balanced

pet intercept is too good (and isn't on a timer), blah blah

 

[Shike]

pet intercept is too good (and isn't on a timer), blah blah

I agree 100%, SMs is as silly as sorcs are Never said anything different anywhere, just that this thread was about sorcs, not SMs.

 

[Ronso]

Sorc whine ..how new ...

 

[Wazkyr]

Difference is one thing, having almost 50% of the alb population consist of one class is another... Theres far too many sorcs atm and the class does destroy solo and small scale rvr

This thread has nothing to do with the sorc being an 'i win class' at times, its about every 2nd albion having a sorc and running around mezzing/lifetapping everything in sight.

Well i been alot in the "1on1" areas. And does it matter if its a sorc steamrolling the oponent as an add caba, theu or wiz ect? I cant see the diffrence in irvr either they all do great dmg, ppl die quick, if they add you die, thats just how casters are. No matter witch caster add, it will destroy solo/small group rvr.

Since porkbelly is the one whining i presume TZ died to some moc lt, but SM is far better for that pourpose alone, as they got higher dps, 90% lt and intercept pet.

Some may say that theres to many sorcs compared to other classes, but that wont change as long as mythic wont nerf the class (as they said they prefer boosting instead of nerfing) and i really cant se the problem in it.

 

[eggy]

Difference is one thing, having almost 50% of the alb population consist of one class is another... Theres far too many sorcs atm and the class does destroy solo and small scale rvr

Urm, not sure where you got your info but...according to Duskwave, there are 9,622 unique characters on the Albion side of exc/pry - 736 of these are sorcs.

Now I believe that's 7.65%.

They do, however, have the highest average RPs per character, with 512k each.

 

[Raven]

i think its good everyone rolls sorcs, most of them have no idea how to play and dont bother with a template etc, nice quick easy RPs

 

[Corran]

i think its good everyone rolls sorcs, most of them have no idea how to play and dont bother with a template etc, nice quick easy RPs

So true, my sorc on active account is naked

That said, if it wasnt for certain memories that come with him then i would have deleted him long ago. Just too many funny things happened while playing him... same goes for my mini that got left at level 46 with constituation that goes as far down as possible because he never seen a healer and suicided on mobs alot Wont mention the inf i cant be arsed to level past 48 or whatever he on for over a year. But then im lazy and cant be arsed to toa another toon even though he probably got credit for most of them

 

[scorge]

anyone else sick and tired with alb FOTM SORCERERS , every were i bloody go i seeing more and more of them .

nerf them nerf them now or aleast take MOC off them ...

I am sick of mid BD lifetap, and hib stun debuff nuke nuke nuke,

each realm has there FOTM caster class that no one likes.

 

[Ronso]

They have speed..can choose their pet ..have life tap ..good cc..and bolt range mezz.

sounds like a good solo class to me if ure looking for an albion caster..whats the problem ?

 

[Tafaya Anathas]

LAIFTAP!!!!! LAIFTAP!!!!

These threads are the reason I come back here time to time. Some things never change

 

[Daedalus]

...but that wont change as long as mythic wont nerf the class (as they said they prefer boosting instead of nerfing)...

That's too true. I do think that there are a few scenario's in which the sorcerer is overpowered, there are also a few scenario's where the class isn't. Nerfing any class does more damage than it does good. Moreover, if Mythic would have to 'fix' the class it would also involve nerfing a lot of other abilities and classes in the other realms as well, and I don't think we want that.

What comes around goes around.

 

[Zahr]

i think its good everyone rolls sorcs, most of them have no idea how to play and dont bother with a template etc, nice quick easy RPs

Thougt that was WL, but now peps uderstand that WL r not OP and NEVER WAS.....

uke:

 

[Belomar]

Thougt that was WL, but now peps uderstand that WL r not OP and NEVER WAS.....

Shoo out of this thread, random Troll.

 

[ebenezer]

Thougt that was WL, but now peps uderstand that WL r not OP and NEVER WAS.....

uke:

oh....are you stil here. was hoping you were banned for that stupid nazi comment...