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Belomar
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Yeah, could be that I was over-sensitive (again). Sorry.
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Glottis_Xanadu
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Originally posted by Gahldir
do you actually have any clue how crap the baselinestun really is? I duel a chanter, chanter stuns me, stun wears of in less then 1 sec. I duel a chanter, chanter debuffs me (L44 heatdebuff), stun wears of in ~1.5 secs.
getting such a thing in RvR is like an extra xmass since you can't be slamed and then stuned for 8-9 secs for the next minute.
Not sure, but somehow a caster stun last around 7s on my scout, or sorc... 26% resists and all...
More than enough time to debuff and eat away 1800hp....
Regards, Glottis
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fl_gorre
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most albs dont have the patience to form a decent grp
they prefer rushing in releasing and rushing in again
action>>> patience
compiling an alb grp is hard
harder then mid/hib
first of all most utilitys are spread over multiple characters
to get a good support for alb you need 4/5characters who are very limited to their only support line
healing/mezzing/speed/end regen
with each support class there is something wrong:
clerics: way underpopulated, most are respecced intoo buffbots
others gave up after a while because their grp does not know how to defend them or because its to frustrating trying to heal dumbasses who run intoo 4+fg of casters
minstrels: most minstrels prefers to run solo for pretty obvious resaons
sorces: tuff class to play and very lill rewarding: each mezz you cast you got all teh attention of teh enemies if there is a class to die first it will always be you. laying on the ground for teh entire fight most of teh times. aka most who rolled a sorc stop soonish or have lill clue what they are doing or what they should do
palladins: got end regen and slam , some got FH and some actually know how to use it, low damageoutput
pbt theurgs: low hp gimped pbt spec line
friars: pretty ok class base buffs good resist buffs
forming an random on teh spot alb grp is very hard
a grp could wait for hours at atk to find an available cleric to ungimp their grp. but why should they if only very few show up
end result 5+random fgs leaving atk having to stick together because their grp wouldnt stand any chance vs the balanced hib/mid grps out there
they prefer rushing in releasing and rushing in again
action>>> patience
compiling an alb grp is hard
harder then mid/hib
first of all most utilitys are spread over multiple characters
to get a good support for alb you need 4/5characters who are very limited to their only support line
healing/mezzing/speed/end regen
with each support class there is something wrong:
clerics: way underpopulated, most are respecced intoo buffbots
others gave up after a while because their grp does not know how to defend them or because its to frustrating trying to heal dumbasses who run intoo 4+fg of casters
minstrels: most minstrels prefers to run solo for pretty obvious resaons
sorces: tuff class to play and very lill rewarding: each mezz you cast you got all teh attention of teh enemies if there is a class to die first it will always be you. laying on the ground for teh entire fight most of teh times. aka most who rolled a sorc stop soonish or have lill clue what they are doing or what they should do
palladins: got end regen and slam , some got FH and some actually know how to use it, low damageoutput
pbt theurgs: low hp gimped pbt spec line
friars: pretty ok class base buffs good resist buffs
forming an random on teh spot alb grp is very hard
a grp could wait for hours at atk to find an available cleric to ungimp their grp. but why should they if only very few show up
end result 5+random fgs leaving atk having to stick together because their grp wouldnt stand any chance vs the balanced hib/mid grps out there
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alme
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Originally posted by Pin
pfft. you brought 2fg to kill us at hmg. then killed us again with 1fg near apk after 2 of us (inc minstrel) had logged
yes ofc, as always, 2 fg for teh win!!!!!1111 Esp in odins, always bring 2 fgs there. Not to mention emain, where we get atleast 4 guild grps with us :great:
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alme
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Originally posted by K0nah
they always do, IG r uber, apparently
!!!!
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old.Filip
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gorres is telling what has been told zillion times before and he is rigth ...
and about soruzi
we was talking about the hib caster stun...
not perfect set up ... your mind is going in cirkels now ..
8 out 10 groups im in dont have a friar... hence the stun is good at killing the minser Filip ... and most other char who dont have determination....
Filip
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and about soruzi
we was talking about the hib caster stun...
not perfect set up ... your mind is going in cirkels now ..
8 out 10 groups im in dont have a friar... hence the stun is good at killing the minser Filip ... and most other char who dont have determination....
Filip
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Qte Eth
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I remember wasting all power on some minstrel who IPed and with 1800 hes hp*2 it took me around 15-20 nukes(got some crappy heals) with my heat nuke (around 280(-3xx) per uber nuke ) and yes stun last 4-5 seconds on him so it is strong -600hp(mayb -900)during "overpowered stun" !!!
and if u dont have a friar its u who have to care to get him ,not we heat mages
and if u dont have a friar its u who have to care to get him ,not we heat mages
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Mavl
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just fyi 20*280 = 5600
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fl_gorre
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Originally posted by Qte Eth
err
i simply see no way how to beat r7+ alb tank grp with 2 clerics, 5x ip, 2h instaheals, 2x grpheals, fh, sos, 2bof, sb, x times Apx ,moc grphealspammers ,higher af, 3 str relics ,ablative chant with mid tank grp
moc grphealspammers
lol
you can count the amount of clerics who got moc on one hand
and some of em arent active anymore
bof purge MCL2 RP MOC and all the sudden you are RR7L3
and lets not forget the passives wich come in handy
its the only class im aware off that needs such high RR to have the RA's wich make the class complete
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filip forget even trying to make sense...everytime you point out that you usually dont have this and this class in your group, all you will be met with is.....you have no patience, albs are disorganized, you are a bad player, it dosnt matter that you have sent 57 tells waited for 422 mins trying to make the perfect group . All i know is im amazed at how ignorant a few (i hope) mids and hibs act on this matter
. All i know is im amazed at how ignorant a few (i hope) mids and hibs act on this matter
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Tyka
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Bah why do you IG guys have to turn every thread to "IG pwnz all groups with random fgs".
Anyways i don't believe the best gank group in hib would be caster heavy, compared to tank group, a mage group can take down more enemies faster, wich is nescessary on this server.
Anyways i don't believe the best gank group in hib would be caster heavy, compared to tank group, a mage group can take down more enemies faster, wich is nescessary on this server.
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old.Nol
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once again...hib only needs 3 classes to be uber...
But then Albs have far less chars to kill to cripple our groups, I thought you people had learned. A well balanced Alb group should own every other group out there no exceptions.
Guilds in Hibernia roll classes to ensure that they have balanced groups, maybe you should consider doing the same?
It's very seldom that I see Alb groups doing basic things right(the majority, believe it or not, your group is not a majority), like assisting and taking out the correct classes first. No one protects your healers or sorcers, and the minstrels normally SoS's off the second they get hit.
I think the problem is that the same majority spends the day/night getting easy kills in a zerg, they learn nothing. Then the day they decide to run in 1fg they get horribly owned, which sends them back to the zerg with their tails between their legs.
2am last night and 70 albs are running around together, from AMG to Crauch and back again.
Yes there are skilled players in Albion, yes there are good guilds and good groups. Yes you will suffer because you don't balance your groups and the majority have no clue how to fight without another 4 groups behind them.
This is to the benefit of the good groups, I am so used to the crap ones, that when the good ones come along I normally end up dead because I was blase about winning :/
But then Albs have far less chars to kill to cripple our groups, I thought you people had learned. A well balanced Alb group should own every other group out there no exceptions.
Guilds in Hibernia roll classes to ensure that they have balanced groups, maybe you should consider doing the same?
It's very seldom that I see Alb groups doing basic things right(the majority, believe it or not, your group is not a majority), like assisting and taking out the correct classes first. No one protects your healers or sorcers, and the minstrels normally SoS's off the second they get hit.
I think the problem is that the same majority spends the day/night getting easy kills in a zerg, they learn nothing. Then the day they decide to run in 1fg they get horribly owned, which sends them back to the zerg with their tails between their legs.
2am last night and 70 albs are running around together, from AMG to Crauch and back again.
Yes there are skilled players in Albion, yes there are good guilds and good groups. Yes you will suffer because you don't balance your groups and the majority have no clue how to fight without another 4 groups behind them.
This is to the benefit of the good groups, I am so used to the crap ones, that when the good ones come along I normally end up dead because I was blase about winning :/
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faderullan
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I run a albion tank group on prydwen.
And if i compare us vs the best mid tank groups availble on prydwen I would say...
If sos is ready we will win.
If both bof's are ready and no sos we usually win.
If one bof is ready and no sos then its like 50/50
If nothing ready then we lose more then we win i think.
My group setup is 2cleric 3merc 1pala 1minstrel 1sorc.
Assist 4 the win.
And if i compare us vs the best mid tank groups availble on prydwen I would say...
If sos is ready we will win.
If both bof's are ready and no sos we usually win.
If one bof is ready and no sos then its like 50/50
If nothing ready then we lose more then we win i think.
My group setup is 2cleric 3merc 1pala 1minstrel 1sorc.
Assist 4 the win.
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alme
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Bah why do u retarded guys have to turn every thread to "Now those IG guys are saying theyre uber again" when were not?
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Tyka
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Did'nt call you retarded, hävda sig osv.
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Divinia
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nu ska jag jobba
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cougar-
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yep listen to him, he can maybe show alb/exc how to not be gimped and rp cows.
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alme
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No but i called u a retard cuz ure full of shit
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Tyka
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At least i dont have to boost myself in every single thread, ah well.
"Hey look at me", Relax.
Oh btw, if i was not right you would'nt get this offended..
"Hey look at me", Relax.
Oh btw, if i was not right you would'nt get this offended..
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StormriderX
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druids getting the same would need 4 extra rsp cause gp is 14rsp compared to bofs 10 t.t
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alme
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Errrr ok :great:
And could u tell me where we boost our selfs? Id really like to c.
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old.Iunliten
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Because playing cleric in zergs ain't fun and people roll a wtfpwn class instead of getting RP fast in a real group?
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old.Filip
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to few merc's on excalibur imho ...
i dont think i could name 3 .....
i dont think i could name 3 .....
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parlain
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Alme giv m00vie!!!!
You know the one I'm talking about
You know the one I'm talking about