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Arnor
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I look back to daoc release, when we all were noobs and everyone ran around with eachother, even thanes got groups!
and I see how it is now, where there isnt hope of getting into a random group (or guild group in most cases) unless you are an absolute essential class and/or are an "uber" class.
What made daoc take this sharp turn from being about fun and friendship, to being about who is the leetest and the best and the one with the most rps etc?
I look at my servers normal rvr now, and its shot to shit. Everyone are making fotm groups or zergs, everyone steamrolls and leeches of everyone and they all scurry for the scraps of the more successful.
And as I look further back, I realize its been in the cards all the time. Since back in the days when I played quake team fortress with friends for fun, then it slid over to the clan-based portion of its time, and that was fun too, playing against equally matched/numbered enemies, ever testing your might and all that. Exactly the same happened in another game I played from the start, counterstrike. what began as playing for fun, ended up with a need to be the best in the world. For me, this wasnt a big problem because I played it a lot, same with qtf, I didnt think of the ppl that I played against and totally annihilated on the random servers I played, I would join the loosing team, make them the winning team and then change over again.
And as I look back, it wasnt that much of a problem, you join a server and someone is very good, you can always change teams/server if your getting your ass handed to you. Which brings us to daoc, as it is now, we have classes/players that are "worthless" in rvr. We have players that stand at mtk for hours on end, trying to get a group they wont get, since 3healers, 1shaman, 1skald rest savages( maybe one warrior or zerk) is the best, the "only" way to compete. There is no room for a runemaster or a spiritmaster or a thane or a bonedancer there, they cant compete. For me personally this wasnt the biggest problem, i had previously played alot, and my zerker was pretty well respected on the server, so I got into groups. I still played so much that if I wanted, I couldve made a savage and be guaranteed groups. I still got turned down over rr2 savages fresh from malm by morons ofc.
But im tired, im tired of having to "flaunt" my rr and me having pf to get groups, Im tired of never getting groups with my rm/sm, im tired of being asked to bring my zerker to guild groups because everyone else runs with optimal groups, when I much rather wanna play sm/rm. Im tired of everyone "forcing" everyone else to roll fotms, or stand at mtk. Im tired of having to play with damn good players/high realm rankers to have a chance with the semi-perma rm-group we got going that will get nerfed in 1.65. Im tired of the mindless /assist tank-train that daoc has become (and im MA 90% of the time). Im tired of new guilds popping up with the "fotm-setup" and claiming to wtfpwn everyone with their "skill". Im tired of the elitism/powerwhoring/rpwhoring that has infested daoc to the bones.
I wanna be able to make a group with some mates that know how to play but maybe dont have the "fotmgroup-classes" and actually have a chance against some rr8 in 10days /played fotm guild, I just want to have fun, I want to be able to get a group with my rm in emain and go rvr, instead of seeing groups sitting on their asses at tk waiting for the last healer or savage to pop. I want to be able to solo ppl in odins gate without 10 stealthers popping to leech a rp from me. I want casters to become viable in groups again (not only special groups) But most of all, I want the focus of the game to shift from rps to fun.
Now that im done ranting, im retiring my chars for the time being, ill be back for Toa to check it out, ill be back for the rvr-expansion, but I wont be online sitting on ass in mtk trying to get/set up groups anymore. I wont be online waiting for the inevitable "bring your zerker, not rm plz" on /gu.
Ill still be on from time to time, but it will be more or less like i've been the last week or so.
edit: I couldve spent 2 pages listing all the ppl i would like to thank for all their help and the good times we've had, but they know who they are, everyone from Wolf to Tzee
edit2: Ill still be spamming the boards more or less, so your not completely rid of me
Arnor - Zerker
Coiin - Rm
Mazuma - Sm
Cuddlykeen - Chanter
and I see how it is now, where there isnt hope of getting into a random group (or guild group in most cases) unless you are an absolute essential class and/or are an "uber" class.
What made daoc take this sharp turn from being about fun and friendship, to being about who is the leetest and the best and the one with the most rps etc?
I look at my servers normal rvr now, and its shot to shit. Everyone are making fotm groups or zergs, everyone steamrolls and leeches of everyone and they all scurry for the scraps of the more successful.
And as I look further back, I realize its been in the cards all the time. Since back in the days when I played quake team fortress with friends for fun, then it slid over to the clan-based portion of its time, and that was fun too, playing against equally matched/numbered enemies, ever testing your might and all that. Exactly the same happened in another game I played from the start, counterstrike. what began as playing for fun, ended up with a need to be the best in the world. For me, this wasnt a big problem because I played it a lot, same with qtf, I didnt think of the ppl that I played against and totally annihilated on the random servers I played, I would join the loosing team, make them the winning team and then change over again.
And as I look back, it wasnt that much of a problem, you join a server and someone is very good, you can always change teams/server if your getting your ass handed to you. Which brings us to daoc, as it is now, we have classes/players that are "worthless" in rvr. We have players that stand at mtk for hours on end, trying to get a group they wont get, since 3healers, 1shaman, 1skald rest savages( maybe one warrior or zerk) is the best, the "only" way to compete. There is no room for a runemaster or a spiritmaster or a thane or a bonedancer there, they cant compete. For me personally this wasnt the biggest problem, i had previously played alot, and my zerker was pretty well respected on the server, so I got into groups. I still played so much that if I wanted, I couldve made a savage and be guaranteed groups. I still got turned down over rr2 savages fresh from malm by morons ofc.
But im tired, im tired of having to "flaunt" my rr and me having pf to get groups, Im tired of never getting groups with my rm/sm, im tired of being asked to bring my zerker to guild groups because everyone else runs with optimal groups, when I much rather wanna play sm/rm. Im tired of everyone "forcing" everyone else to roll fotms, or stand at mtk. Im tired of having to play with damn good players/high realm rankers to have a chance with the semi-perma rm-group we got going that will get nerfed in 1.65. Im tired of the mindless /assist tank-train that daoc has become (and im MA 90% of the time). Im tired of new guilds popping up with the "fotm-setup" and claiming to wtfpwn everyone with their "skill". Im tired of the elitism/powerwhoring/rpwhoring that has infested daoc to the bones.
I wanna be able to make a group with some mates that know how to play but maybe dont have the "fotmgroup-classes" and actually have a chance against some rr8 in 10days /played fotm guild, I just want to have fun, I want to be able to get a group with my rm in emain and go rvr, instead of seeing groups sitting on their asses at tk waiting for the last healer or savage to pop. I want to be able to solo ppl in odins gate without 10 stealthers popping to leech a rp from me. I want casters to become viable in groups again (not only special groups) But most of all, I want the focus of the game to shift from rps to fun.
Now that im done ranting, im retiring my chars for the time being, ill be back for Toa to check it out, ill be back for the rvr-expansion, but I wont be online sitting on ass in mtk trying to get/set up groups anymore. I wont be online waiting for the inevitable "bring your zerker, not rm plz" on /gu.
Ill still be on from time to time, but it will be more or less like i've been the last week or so.
edit: I couldve spent 2 pages listing all the ppl i would like to thank for all their help and the good times we've had, but they know who they are, everyone from Wolf to Tzee
edit2: Ill still be spamming the boards more or less, so your not completely rid of me
Arnor - Zerker
Coiin - Rm
Mazuma - Sm
Cuddlykeen - Chanter
was great 2 play with ya m8y, was only a short time but was a pleasure and most importantly a good laugh! c u soon