So is this a conspiracy theory?

[Azurus]

If i told you that the CIA facilitate the import of Crack-cocaine and its subsequent sale in the American Ghettos would you say i was a conspiracy theorist?

 

[Serbitar]

doesn't CIA stand for crack importers anonymous?

 

[Mabs]

If i told you that the CIA facilitate the import of Crack-cocaine and its subsequent sale in the American Ghettos would you say i was a conspiracy theorist?

no id just think you were an alt account of Joors

 

[yaruar]

If i told you that the CIA facilitate the import of Crack-cocaine and its subsequent sale in the American Ghettos would you say i was a conspiracy theorist?

Yes, it is a conspircy theory, quite an old one at that. Not true, although the waters are muddied by the US involvement with the Contras.

 

[Bahumat]

If you told me that i'd probably want some form of proof. But as this is not huge on my "Wish to know about" list, i'd probably say "orly" then walk off.

 

[Raven]

its on the internets, what more proof do you want???

 

[Solo]

zomg call john mclane

 

[Ctuchik]

If i told you that the CIA facilitate the import of Crack-cocaine and its subsequent sale in the American Ghettos would you say i was a conspiracy theorist?

no. i'd ask why.

 

[Vladamir]

You have no youtube link nor an extract like Joor.

Therefore no, it is not

 

[Azurus]

no. i'd ask why.

YouTube - CIA CRACK CONTRA AND CALIFORNIA
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Here's a brief overview, basically it's to fund the contra wars, the supression of a socialist government in Nicaragua. It is not as black and white as some allege, but the link between the CIA and the contras is undisputable and was very much a reason for the cheap cocaine which then became crack flooding the US markets.

edit: just to clarify the US in the 70s and 80s did not tolerate any Socialist governments in South America as they were hostile to the type of extractive economy subervient to US business interests that the US wished to establish. This led to the America funding terrorist organisations such as the contras to bring down these democratically elected goverments. This is still occuring today, look at the attempted CIA sponsered coup of Hugo Chavez.

 

[Raven]

like this?

YouTube - Contra 3
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[Azurus]

like this?

YouTube - Contra 3
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Maybe you should actually read about the contra war before making crap jokes about it. It's probably the best example of the USA conducting a war against a completely democratic government in the name of promoting freedom, the whole thing is horrible.

Heres a good article about it well worth a read 1970-1987: The contra war in Nicaragua | libcom.org

 

[Raven]

Personally I blame the McDonalds/Microsoft cartel, they are obviously behind the faux US government.

Actually no i don't because i simply don't care about some back water country that lives off the funds from drugs and guns. What possible motive would the US government have for starting a war near its country, decreasing the stability of its borders and increasing the amount of illegal immigrants and leaches on its social system.


none

 

[Azurus]

Personally I blame the McDonalds/Microsoft cartel, they are obviously behind the faux US government.

Actually no i don't because i simply don't care about some back water country that lives off the funds from drugs and guns. What possible motive would the US government have for starting a war near its country, decreasing the stability of its borders and increasing the amount of illegal immigrants and leaches on its social system.


none

lol are you being sarcastic?

The US were involved in countless conflicts in South American during the latter half of the 20th century. These were exclusively to guarantee the survival, or to introduce the type of Top down systems of government that would help further US interests. They support brutal regimes which result in the deaths of thousands of innocent people and bitterly repress free speech and any form of oppostion.

The CIA trained and FUNDED the contras against the sandinistas, a democratically elected socialist government who were introducing policies to help the poor members of their society. This is an established fact.

South America: Toward an Alternative Future, by Noam Chomsky

Here is a very good article about it. Also i would reccomend reading up on Noam Chomsky, even wikipedia him, anything eminating from him can in my opinion be trusted, the man is a legend.

Democracy Now! | "The United States is Terrified" - Noam Chomsky on Latin America's Move Towards "Independence and Integration" Here's another more comprehensive interview on the subject.

 

[Vladamir]

OT isn't a place to reveal what a terrible place the world is.

So put a sock in all this conspiracy crap.

 

[Azurus]

OT isn't a place to reveal what a terrible place the world is.

So put a sock in all this conspiracy crap.

Some of us enjoy talking about real issues instead of making retarded gay jokes all the time which really, really aren't that funny.

And honestly if you think something coming from Noam Chomsky, one of the world's most respected intellectuals is 'conspiracy crap' you're just ignorant.

 

[Gamah]

Some of us enjoy talking about real issues instead of making retarded gay jokes all the time which really, really aren't that funny.

And honestly if you think something coming from Noam Chomsky, one of the world's most respected intellectuals is 'conspiracy crap' you're just and ignorant.

Or you could smother them in their sleep with that cheese burger locker gut of yours.

Yes, you're really Mr Mature on the forums only interested in real issues and intellectual discussions.

 

[Azurus]

Yes, you're really Mr Mature on the forums only interested in real issues and intellectual discussions.

Did i say i was? I only posted that in response to you taking a shot at Bugz for no reason. I said i PREFER intellectual discussions.

 

[soze]

Yes it is just like the one about how the American Goverment developed and now infect people with aids all around the world just to control the population.

 

[Gamah]

Did i say i was? I only posted that in response to you taking a shot at Bugz for no reason. I said i PREFER intellectual discussions.

Sorry, I wasn't "taking a shot" mr sherrif of freddyshouse, I was mocking him with some light humour. Should he wish to take a shot back at me in the good nature my original tone was intended he is more than welcome. You had no business in the conversation yet decided to stick your flat nose in anway, next time STFO.

 

[Azurus]

Yes it is just like the one about how the American Goverment developed and now infect people with aids all around the world just to control the population.

Obviously i don't believe that, that is nowhere in the same league as what i (as well as many others) view America as doing.

Hegemony or Survival by Noam Chomsky

That's a snypopsis of one of Chomsky's books, before you dismiss all this at least take the time to read it.

 

[Ctuchik]

-snip-

u keep saying was here. yesterdays news is rarely a valid argument u know.

if that was the case i could drag up a crapload of stuff that most countries in the world used to do that is a fair bit more serious then this. but i'm not coz its not all that important today.

that being said, there isnt a whole lot about america i like. but comon, aint they doing enough shit today to tease your intelectual argumentation? do you have to bring up stuff from 20 - 30 years ago to find something to whine about? or did u find this out just now?

 

[Azurus]

u keep saying was here. yesterdays news is rarely a valid argument u know.

if that was the case i could drag up a crapload of stuff that most countries in the world used to do that is a fair bit more serious then this. but i'm not coz its not all that important today.

that being said, there isnt a whole lot about america i like. but comon, aint they doing enough shit today to tease your intelectual argumentation? do you have to bring up stuff from 20 - 30 years ago to find something to whine about? or did u find this out just now?

To be fair 20 years ago is not that far in the past. The reprecussions of their actions are still being felt today, countries such as Nicaragua are still devestated.

 

[Bahumat]

Noam Chomsky.

pffft bet he loves the boys!

 

[Bahumat]

These sort of discussions are pointless. Are you hoping people aged 15-35 start a revolution and make things 'right'?

Who here is actually gonna go out and tell their friends all about the CIA and cocaine conspiracy?

Even if the CIA were not involved, coke will still get in America.

The great thing about Conspiracy Theories is you can twist words or meanings or definitions or interpretations to suit your own, then you also have the added bonus that if you're correct....you'll sit back and do fuck all about it.

You're not forcing this crap down my throat so my overly harsh opinionisation is not aimed directly at you.

 

[Azurus]

These sort of discussions are pointless. Are you hoping people aged 15-35 start a revolution and make things 'right'?

Who here is actually gonna go out and tell their friends all about the CIA and cocaine conspiracy?

Even if the CIA were not involved, coke will still get in America.

The great thing about Conspiracy Theories is you can twist words or meanings or definitions or interpretations to suit your own, then you also have the added bonus that if you're correct....you'll sit back and do fuck all about it.

You're not forcing this crap down my throat so my overly harsh opinionisation is not aimed directly at you.

Before the contra war cocaine was not readily available on the streets to any meaningful extent.

I just find this type of subject matter interesting and like discussing it with people. When im older im hoping to get into politics so actually i do aim to do something about it.

 

[Congax]

So these carrots...why arent they called oranges again?

 

[Shagrat]

Obviously i don't believe that, that is nowhere in the same league as what i (as well as many others) view America as doing.

Hegemony or Survival by Noam Chomsky

That's a snypopsis of one of Chomsky's books, before you dismiss all this at least take the time to read it.

Damn,

I would love to read this and discuss this with you in a frank and intellectual manner.

Unfortunately it contravenes rule 8 of Shaggys Laws.

8. Never read anything written by someone who sounds like a chocolate bar.

 

[Thadius]

Ive said it before.

There is no need for conspiracy theroy crap here.

I like a good theory now and again, but its mainly a load of bollocks that nearly all the posters here wouldnt know or care about.

 

[Lollie]

chomsky is an anarchist so obviously he's gonna try and stir shit up with the government