So is this a conspiracy theory?

Discussion in 'The Front Room' started by Azurus, Jul 9, 2007.

  1. Azurus

    Azurus Can't get enough of FH

    If i told you that the CIA facilitate the import of Crack-cocaine and its subsequent sale in the American Ghettos would you say i was a conspiracy theorist?
     
  2. Serbitar

    Serbitar Fledgling Freddie

    doesn't CIA stand for crack importers anonymous?
     
  3. Mabs

    Mabs J Peasemould Gruntfuttock

    no id just think you were an alt account of Joors
     
  4. yaruar

    yaruar Can't get enough of FH

    Yes, it is a conspircy theory, quite an old one at that. Not true, although the waters are muddied by the US involvement with the Contras.
     
  5. Bahumat

    Bahumat FH is my second home

    If you told me that i'd probably want some form of proof. But as this is not huge on my "Wish to know about" list, i'd probably say "orly" then walk off.
     
  6. Raven

    Raven Brrrrr!

    its on the internets, what more proof do you want???
     
  7. Solo

    Solo Fledgling Freddie

    zomg call john mclane
     
  8. Ctuchik

    Ctuchik Resident Freddy

    no. i'd ask why.
     
  9. Vladamir

    Vladamir FH is my second home

    You have no youtube link nor an extract like Joor.

    Therefore no, it is not :eek:
     
  10. Azurus

    Azurus Can't get enough of FH

    YouTube - CIA CRACK CONTRA AND CALIFORNIA
    [youtubevid]P9yKkYeVJH4[/youtubevid]

    Here's a brief overview, basically it's to fund the contra wars, the supression of a socialist government in Nicaragua. It is not as black and white as some allege, but the link between the CIA and the contras is undisputable and was very much a reason for the cheap cocaine which then became crack flooding the US markets.

    edit: just to clarify the US in the 70s and 80s did not tolerate any Socialist governments in South America as they were hostile to the type of extractive economy subervient to US business interests that the US wished to establish. This led to the America funding terrorist organisations such as the contras to bring down these democratically elected goverments. This is still occuring today, look at the attempted CIA sponsered coup of Hugo Chavez.
     
  11. Raven

    Raven Brrrrr!

  12. Azurus

    Azurus Can't get enough of FH

    Maybe you should actually read about the contra war before making crap jokes about it. It's probably the best example of the USA conducting a war against a completely democratic government in the name of promoting freedom, the whole thing is horrible.

    Heres a good article about it well worth a read 1970-1987: The contra war in Nicaragua | libcom.org
     
  13. Raven

    Raven Brrrrr!

    Personally I blame the McDonalds/Microsoft cartel, they are obviously behind the faux US government.

    Actually no i don't because i simply don't care about some back water country that lives off the funds from drugs and guns. What possible motive would the US government have for starting a war near its country, decreasing the stability of its borders and increasing the amount of illegal immigrants and leaches on its social system.


    none
     
  14. Azurus

    Azurus Can't get enough of FH

    lol are you being sarcastic?

    The US were involved in countless conflicts in South American during the latter half of the 20th century. These were exclusively to guarantee the survival, or to introduce the type of Top down systems of government that would help further US interests. They support brutal regimes which result in the deaths of thousands of innocent people and bitterly repress free speech and any form of oppostion.

    The CIA trained and FUNDED the contras against the sandinistas, a democratically elected socialist government who were introducing policies to help the poor members of their society. This is an established fact.

    South America: Toward an Alternative Future, by Noam Chomsky

    Here is a very good article about it. Also i would reccomend reading up on Noam Chomsky, even wikipedia him, anything eminating from him can in my opinion be trusted, the man is a legend.

    Democracy Now! | "The United States is Terrified" - Noam Chomsky on Latin America's Move Towards "Independence and Integration" Here's another more comprehensive interview on the subject.
     
  15. Vladamir

    Vladamir FH is my second home

    OT isn't a place to reveal what a terrible place the world is.

    So put a sock in all this conspiracy crap.
     
  16. Azurus

    Azurus Can't get enough of FH

    Some of us enjoy talking about real issues instead of making retarded gay jokes all the time which really, really aren't that funny.

    And honestly if you think something coming from Noam Chomsky, one of the world's most respected intellectuals is 'conspiracy crap' you're just ignorant.
     
  17. Gamah

    Gamah Banned

    Yes, you're really Mr Mature on the forums only interested in real issues and intellectual discussions.
     
  18. Azurus

    Azurus Can't get enough of FH

    Did i say i was? I only posted that in response to you taking a shot at Bugz for no reason. I said i PREFER intellectual discussions.
     
  19. soze

    soze I am a FH squatter

    Yes it is just like the one about how the American Goverment developed and now infect people with aids all around the world just to control the population.
     
  20. Gamah

    Gamah Banned

    Sorry, I wasn't "taking a shot" mr sherrif of freddyshouse, I was mocking him with some light humour. Should he wish to take a shot back at me in the good nature my original tone was intended he is more than welcome. You had no business in the conversation yet decided to stick your flat nose in anway, next time STFO.
     
  21. Azurus

    Azurus Can't get enough of FH

    Obviously i don't believe that, that is nowhere in the same league as what i (as well as many others) view America as doing.

    Hegemony or Survival by Noam Chomsky

    That's a snypopsis of one of Chomsky's books, before you dismiss all this at least take the time to read it.
     
  22. Ctuchik

    Ctuchik Resident Freddy



    u keep saying was here. yesterdays news is rarely a valid argument u know.

    if that was the case i could drag up a crapload of stuff that most countries in the world used to do that is a fair bit more serious then this. but i'm not coz its not all that important today.

    that being said, there isnt a whole lot about america i like. but comon, aint they doing enough shit today to tease your intelectual argumentation? do you have to bring up stuff from 20 - 30 years ago to find something to whine about? or did u find this out just now?
     
  23. Azurus

    Azurus Can't get enough of FH

    To be fair 20 years ago is not that far in the past. The reprecussions of their actions are still being felt today, countries such as Nicaragua are still devestated.
     
  24. Bahumat

    Bahumat FH is my second home

    pffft bet he loves the boys!
     
  25. Bahumat

    Bahumat FH is my second home

    These sort of discussions are pointless. Are you hoping people aged 15-35 start a revolution and make things 'right'?

    Who here is actually gonna go out and tell their friends all about the CIA and cocaine conspiracy?

    Even if the CIA were not involved, coke will still get in America.

    The great thing about Conspiracy Theories is you can twist words or meanings or definitions or interpretations to suit your own, then you also have the added bonus that if you're correct....you'll sit back and do fuck all about it.

    You're not forcing this crap down my throat so my overly harsh opinionisation is not aimed directly at you.
     
  26. Azurus

    Azurus Can't get enough of FH

    Before the contra war cocaine was not readily available on the streets to any meaningful extent.

    I just find this type of subject matter interesting and like discussing it with people. When im older im hoping to get into politics so actually i do aim to do something about it.
     
  27. Congax

    Congax Fledgling Freddie

    So these carrots...why arent they called oranges again?
     
  28. Shagrat

    Shagrat I am a FH squatter

    Damn,

    I would love to read this and discuss this with you in a frank and intellectual manner.

    Unfortunately it contravenes rule 8 of Shaggys Laws.

    8. Never read anything written by someone who sounds like a chocolate bar.
     
  29. Thadius

    Thadius Part of the furniture

    Ive said it before.

    There is no need for conspiracy theroy crap here.

    I like a good theory now and again, but its mainly a load of bollocks that nearly all the posters here wouldnt know or care about.
     
  30. Lollie

    Lollie Loyal Freddie

    chomsky is an anarchist so obviously he's gonna try and stir shit up with the government
     

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