So... black falcons then.

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old.Wildfire

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Right. Until today I had nothing against black falcons as a guild. Today however I got a first-hand experience of what other First Cohort members have told me about experiences with them before.

The situation was this: I was in a group with Ialkarn in emain this afternoon, and spotted Eos and Sub in the trees to the left as we came through amg. We gave chase, and I sprinted from the back of our group, past the front people, and went after them. When I managed to get close enough, I QC-rooted eos, at which point sub turned and started hacking away at me. I turn to look for my group which included a healer, nukers and tanks, to find them miles back, just coming over the top of the hill that I'd pursued eos/sub over, trusting my group to be right behind me. Needless to say sub dispatched me in short order, but was unfortunately unable to escape the group. They then dispatched eos quite quickly, and when our cleric arrived, I was ressed. People then sat down in the middle of valley 2 and started talking about RAs. I voiced my displeasure about people not sprinting to keep up (thus letting me face eos + sub alone) and for sitting around talking about RAs instead of playing.

Fair enough, this kind of thing happens plenty and you're probably all bored by now.

However, Ialkarn then took this as an opportunity to attack not only me but FC as well, claiming that we're all proud of ourselves, flatly claiming that BF were superior. He went on to accuse FC of being stuck up, and then attempted to have me removed from the group. Later on this evening, he was (unbeknownst to me) grouped with some GoL who I often group with - outlaw, zoyster e.t.c. and I tried to join. Firstly I was told that I wasn't wanted in the group because 'i dont get on with him' - I then offered to say nothing in the group if I joined. Then when I was accepted into the group he disbanded when he realised, complaining that he wasn't going to group with 'that twat' or something similar.

What the fuck is up with BF? This ties in perfectly with what I've heard from other FC members before, but never experienced. Is it because you guys dont like competition? You dont like another RvR guild coming along and taking 'your' realm points? This is a real shame for me as it has changed my view of black falcons as a guild. Mad and Hatjitjai have both been very helpful recently and this really spoils it. I'd quite like to know why BF hold such a deep resentment of FC though.

Anyone?
 
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Strondor_New

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For some weeks now there appear to have been chinese whispers going around causing unnecessary rivalry between BF and FC. It really must stop before it becomes farcical (The Judaen Peoples Front ? PFFFT! ;) )

For the Record (and i think i speak on behalf of all FC):

1) We have the upmost regard for BF. They are without doubt one of the most effective non-zerging rvr guilds on the server. I have grouped in BF groups in recent weeks and found them to be efficient, disciplined and fun.

2) Most of us have friends in BF going waaay back. (Hellooo ;) )

3) Contrary to the fuss about Arthwyr's frustrating time leveling his infy alt Gawain (gtrz on 50 btw) and his threatend no- rez list, there is no "FC Non-Rez list". We rez albs just like any other rvr group (despite the fact that stopping to rez has often meant the ganking of our group).

4) We are not elitist. We do have a policy, howevr, of encouraging an all FC grp at some point during an evening's play (like BF and most other rvr guilds). That said we do not boot non-FC players, in fact we have regular Non-FC player / friends who frequently gruop with us for hours on end (Fast, Parlain, Saers, Waemoh, Onlyone etc etc..). Repeatedly fighting as a team creates superb teamwork resulting a team that is far more effective than the sum of its parts. We are also all good friends (thats what guilds are supposed to be about isn't it?) ;)

To conclude: We have no ill feeling towards BF. Theyre a great bunch of players. We do, however, have ill feelings towards all hibs and mids because they're very ugly and smell of poo ;)
 
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Falcor

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sigh and we get thus more flame....=/


few things....this concerns one person in a guild so i dont know how u can hold the whole guild responsible for one persons point of view....why sprint off? why not wait for your group? if the nme reported your position you would of all been enduranceless for any more inc....why post ANOTHER post like this on the boards? it does no good whatso ever, i sont give a damn who is wrong or right, who pulled whos hair in the playground, just keep the crap off the boards =/

I have nothing against FC or BF they are both great guilds, just that this sort of stupid bickering is pointless and attention seeking only...
 
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old.Wildfire

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My post wasn't so much about Ialkarn (though I am thoroughly unimpressed and would have expected more maturity) as it was about why just-about every FC member has had encounters like this with BF members before now. My attitude towards other BF members hasn't changed, I will be as friendly towards them as ever - I have friends within the guild too. My view of the guild as a whole has changed for the worse though, unfortunately.

Konah even has logs of a couple of BF members going at it in IRC, doing their best to let everyone know what they thought of FC (and lets just say it wasnt friendly). This seems to be a recurring theme, and I'd really quite like to know why, lets call it substantial numbers of[/B] BF seem to think it's perfectly acceptable to belittle, insult and show prejustice against a player they encounter, and justify it as being because they're a member of FC.
 
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K0nah

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Originally posted by old.Wildfire
Konah even has logs of...

Not guilty m'lud!

Personality clashes will occur. Hell I've left groups containing Treniel in the past (haven't we all?) but he does have his good side... ;)

tbh I thought all this smearing crap was over? all i can say is:

whatever... :rolleyes:
 
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old.Xanthian

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I was under the impression (from speaking to BF members in IRC)
that not many ppl liked FC in Albion cos of thier general disrespect for other realm members ;)

But hey, im not here to start a fight tehehe :clap:
 
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bf_kate

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Originally posted by old.Wildfire
However, Ialkarn then took this as an opportunity to attack not only me but FC as well, claiming that we're all proud of ourselves, flatly claiming that BF were superior. He went on to accuse FC of being stuck up, and then attempted to have me removed from the group.

This isn't the story that I heard, but it really doesn't matter. Even if this was the case, I could care less. It's a clash between two players and it's downright childish to post it here.

What the fuck is up with BF? This ties in perfectly with what I've heard from other FC members before, but never experienced. Is it because you guys dont like competition? You dont like another RvR guild coming along and taking 'your' realm points? This is a real shame for me as it has changed my view of black falcons as a guild. Mad and Hatjitjai have both been very helpful recently and this really spoils it. I'd quite like to know why BF hold such a deep resentment of FC though.

Anyone?

I am really going to try not to flame here. I am just going to say that it's all nonsense. I grouped with several FC today with no problem. If you have a problem with one player in BF then sort it out yourself, don't try to get a flame thread started against a whole (very reputable) guild.

kkthxbb :sleeping:
 
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katt!

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Re: Re: So... black falcons then.

Originally posted by bf_kate

If you have a problem with one player in BF then sort it out yourself, don't try to get a flame thread started against a whole (very reputable) guild.

kkthxbb :sleeping:

want me to post a nice little log of serras BSing on irc?
 
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Ialkarn

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What a sad person...
you joined my group in Emain today...you died cause you charged alone a zerger and skald splitting in front of all the group.
you died so you blamed us all cause you lost 400 lurid Rp.
That all.
you also sayd to us to stop to talk in group chat about ras etc whit bullshit sentences,
Well I joined a group of friends in Emain to have fun not to be blamed by a whiner who think himself better then all.
When I sayd so you replyed :bf arent superior of FC so I replyed we are..
cause of course we are,and I m not afraid to say it.
I left the group cause your actitude ruined my fun,10 mins after you started to laught at me near amg ,I didnt say nothing only cause I considered that too stupid to get a reply.
You are a sad person and probably you have some inferiority complexes in front of Bf.
And of course I wont group whit you animore and I ll leave a group who ll get you cause I wont have nothing to do whit ppl like you.
 
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bf_kate

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Re: Re: Re: So... black falcons then.

Originally posted by old.kedal


want me to post a nice little log of serras BSing on irc?

And that has to do with what I said how?

I couldn't care less about what you post.
 
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katt!

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Re: Re: Re: Re: So... black falcons then.

Originally posted by bf_kate


And that has to do with what I said how?

I couldn't care less about what you post.

that some BF members are trying to start/talk shit with no reason.
 
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Dherkova

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hmpf

To Wildfire:
U have ur version of the history, we have Ialk's one. Wich one
can explain what really happened? Noone i guess, so better
forget it.
What the fuck is up with BF? This ties in perfectly with what I've heard from other FC members before
Here we can say: What the fuck is up with FC? This ties in perfectly with what I've heard from other BF members before.
But don't worry about it, they're just small differences in normal
rvr, u know we work good together when we are really fighting
for our realm. It's just a bit of good rivalry/competition ;)

To Strondor:
I'll use ur same points to reply,
1) We have the upmost regard for FC. They are without doubt one of the most effective non-zerging rvr guilds on the server.
2) Most of us have friends in BF going waaay back.
4) We are not elitist. [...]
Well, we are. We don't follow orders, we cooperate with others when it is necessary but we do what we want. We play as we
want, period.
And i think u do the same, don't u? :)

Just another thing: What happened to u today Wildfire, is what
ussually happens in casual rvr groups, that's why we ussualy
don't group with other guilds.

P.S. I love when ppl says bad things about BF. That makes me
feel better :clap: :clap:
 
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K0nah

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Originally posted by Ialkarn
you replyed :bf arent superior of FC so I replyed we are..
cause of course we are,and I m not afraid to say it.

I think here we see the root of the problem ;)
 
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old.Wildfire

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My bad, kedal has the logs, but I'm not going to bother, Ialkarn has saved me the trouble of arguing my own point with his outburst there. My intention was never to start a flame thread here, simply to show the sheer hostility that FC members seem to face from many BF on a daily basis.

I was under the impression (from speaking to BF members in IRC)
that not many ppl liked FC in Albion cos of thier general disrespect for other realm members
That says it all really.

p.s. surely it's for people outside the guild to decide whether a guild is 'very reputable'?

Yes, I'm angry at the situation, yes, this thread is unusually flamey. Sorry, it's how I'm feeling right now.
 
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Dherkova

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think here we see the root of the problem
Uh?
I think BF is the best guild in alb.
And i'm sure u think FC is the best
and GOL members will say the same.
Where is the problem with it?
Why should I be in a guild that i think it's not the number 1? :rolleyes:
 
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old.Wildfire

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Oh come on, there's a difference between having an opinion about something, and claiming it to be truth in an argument.
 
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old.[BF]MaD

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mmmlol

u come claiming on a forum that BF has an attitude towards FC, without talking to either of the other GMs of BF.

Hypocrit is the word i was after , as i just had alot to drink and came home at bout 5am cet time and see a link to this post on irc - i d just like to say : with this u just reduced urself to the lvl u claim us to be.

And as to the matter of a dispute with ONE BF member , u come and generalise all of BF as "bad" , i think u need to think things over befor u come posting on a forum about how badgood a guild is ?


no need for pointing fingers in several directions at players that u had a PERSONAL dispute with and calling an entire guild names and badmouthing them

sorry , but i think we have spoken for the last time, as i have nothing else to say to u , goodbye
 
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old.BJ|Bored

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yea its true really bf have a total hatred of anyone who kills a single mid/hib in emain as their all 'our rps'

same goes for all mobs, hate u all its our exp your stealing


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-frostor-

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Tanks need end to use styles so in fact tanks arent gonne sprint much
if you have something to say about Ial then you dont have to start a topic about bf blablabla
 
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Ialkarn

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I sayd Bf are better than FC cause I really think we are
so? what is bad on it?
You made me to say it whit your sentence:"we arent better then you [pardon I would say:"you arent better than us" I was almost asleep when I wrote it :)] "and you sayd you made a screen shot and you had to put it on Bw ,whit a laught of esultance
do you think I m scared to repeat that?
Should I?
 
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old.Anarki

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Guys an independant opinion:
BF - Some VERY best players in Albion (i'm talkinag about skill and control over game here), but <sigh> kinda want to show they independace, dont work with othres often. And Kate is an Uber Cleric :)
FC - imo has less skilled players, but works better in team, shows more organisation, and generally does smtn esle in emain then running with zerg grom mmg to back. And Treniel is the silliest person on Server :)

But none of you is superior or better, cause you cant organise usual crowd in emain to listen to you etc.... You play individually not in a team with othres ;( , but thats prolly casue others are not woth playing with :)
 
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old.BJ|Bored

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: So... black falcons then.

Originally posted by old.kedal


that some BF members are trying to start/talk shit with no reason.


the log ppl will want is here if you want to read it,

http://squat.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/log.txt

so a jokey chat at 5am = bf starting shit on fc ....

you really need to get out more kedal.
 
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-serra-

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???

that was it?!

lmao Kedal, we were fooling around with Xantian, tell me you can do better than that :p
 
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Khalen

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BF and FC did it both to themselves. Both guilds make each guild ridiculous.
 
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