Setgroup movie, Silvermane Aug healer POV

[Ibilic]

puppet ur comparing a specific class ability with ml line, you have to consider that healers are sacrificing perfecter abilities for phaseshift.

and its not 15 secs its 10 seconds duration

and yes u can counter most things a hib grp throw at ya in theory but u can do the same with mid abilities

i think you are abit too biased to see clearly sometimes

 

[Helstrom]

Dunno Ibilic, playing hib and mid myself I always moan when im on mid cause it's so easy mode. Especially since I used to be m/p and now im m/a so its really boring, never even get targetted when I play :< too many interrupts on mid grps x0
I dunno, I think the whine could be reduced by a lot for everyone if both bd body debuff and chanter dps debuff shouts didnt interrupt and bd didnt have banelord and moc1 wasnt enough for shearing (after all, it DOES reduce effectiveness, why should shears be strong enough to interrupt while moc1 is up? [this should apply to everyone, not just shamans, druids and clerics too])

 

[Septina]

Dunno Ibilic, playing hib and mid myself I always moan when im on mid cause it's so easy mode. Especially since I used to be m/p and now im m/a so its really boring, never even get targetted when I play :< too many interrupts on mid grps x0
I dunno, I think the whine could be reduced by a lot for everyone if both bd body debuff and chanter dps debuff shouts didnt interrupt and bd didnt have banelord and moc1 wasnt enough for shearing (after all, it DOES reduce effectiveness, why should shears be strong enough to interrupt while moc1 is up? [this should apply to everyone, not just shamans, druids and clerics too])

Agreed! :worthy:
Could toss in a small dmg nerf on shees also while they're at it

 

[Shike]

hmm, watched the movie now..

It sucked. Crap player, crap music for the most of it, easymode setup.

Spreadheal, spreadheal, spreadheal, spreadheal, spreadheal, spreadheal, bad positioning, bad prekiting, bad CC, bad.. everything. Worst healer ive seen in a vid probably.

Sorry, but thats my honest opinion.

(if I played a healer, it would probably look something like that, and im total and utter shit at playing support, I just cant play it well and lack experience)

 

[Helstrom]

Shike can only ma and n00k. :<

 

[feril]

hmm, watched the movie now..

It sucked. Crap player, crap music for the most of it, easymode setup.

Spreadheal, spreadheal, spreadheal, spreadheal, spreadheal, spreadheal, bad positioning, bad prekiting, bad CC, bad.. everything. Worst healer ive seen in a vid probably.

Sorry, but thats my honest opinion.

(if I played a healer, it would probably look something like that, and im total and utter shit at playing support, I just cant play it well and lack experience)

dont wanna be to defensive but i counted my SH and ok 4-5 SH may have been unnecessery but then when im Nearsighted i dont have much more to cast if grp is taking dmg and why cast singel heals when more than 1 is taking dmg??? then bad CC?? im aug i have no CC.. and positioning hmm if i would make a good position as a aug (main healer in this 2 healer setup) the movie would propobly be a big tree in the way or a rock or using LoS and not seeing the grp at all =).. took out the clips that shows the grp and ok maybe some sucky play from my side, but its kinda hard to make a good movie from my PoV..

 

[Layne]

Be nice shike :<

 

[Eva]

im aug i have no CC..

 

[Eregion]

im aug i have no CC..

rly?

 

[Dallas]

took out the clips that shows the grp and ok maybe some sucky play from my side, but its kinda hard to make a good movie from my PoV..

dont let people get to you mate, make movies if you have fun making em.
and play how you want, aslong as you have fun

 

[Bhalage]

dont let people get to you mate, make movies if you have fun making em.
and play how you want, aslong as you have fun

/agree

altho : 'i have no CC' - 'i have no insta CC' maybe ;p but baseline mezz, stun, shit ae stun and shit root is there for you m8. : )

 

[Cromcruaich]

Unfortunately the druid rr5 ability is rather naff, a 5 second self stun, mmmm.

Any 1/4 decent tank should immediately spot when its been fired, wait for 5 secs then continue to kick the shit out of said druid who is already near death, or just request assist on it from a caster if 5 seconds is too long to wait.

It's only use is to fire just as youve had bg dropped on you. Or against noobs.

The other general problem that druids have is no insta's (for almost all typical specs), the has a serious effect on their ability to interupt, again against other good players who can simply gain advantage by insta giving them the interupt upper hand.

 

[feril]

hehe ofc i have a singel stun and singel mezz but by the retard post by the re....d it sounded like i was a pac healer with uber CC =)

 

[pjuppe]

dont let people get to you mate, make movies if you have fun making em.
and play how you want, aslong as you have fun

/hug

 

[Minn]

erm cant start dl'ing

 

[xxManiacxx]

Link is down atm. Links always go down when they have been inactive for a while

 

[blejs]

No my first post said only a amount of ppl can dl it, and it was to many so he had to take it down cause he got whine from his internet provider

 

[JixNox]

www.rpgfilms.net ftw. Mid just way more powerful then the other realms btw!

 

[Minn]

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gah, nerf yo, Blejs

 

[Shike]

dont wanna be to defensive but i counted my SH and ok 4-5 SH may have been unnecessery but then when im Nearsighted i dont have much more to cast if grp is taking dmg and why cast singel heals when more than 1 is taking dmg??? then bad CC?? im aug i have no CC.. and positioning hmm if i would make a good position as a aug (main healer in this 2 healer setup) the movie would propobly be a big tree in the way or a rock or using LoS and not seeing the grp at all =).. took out the clips that shows the grp and ok maybe some sucky play from my side, but its kinda hard to make a good movie from my PoV..

hey man, sorry it took some time to reply, been gone this week.

First of all, its ok to be defensive when i rip out a chainsaw and start whacking around!

If you suffer alot from NS, go perf so you can cure it, obviosly you lack it in the group, it would actually help a ton for your own manausage so you dont have to use as many spreadheals.

You are a healer, you have damn good CCtools at your disposal, use them imo, or at least try to learn to use them. Even if it isnt your primary job!, one of mids strengths is just the CC, you have a overflow of it in a midgrp with a regular setup, use it well and it will win you more fights, plain and simple. And your comment about just the CC kinda points out how little you cherish it. Single purple mez for example is a daaaamn good tool. Root is also very good.

Why my post was abit negative only depends on your RR man, you are high RR enough to know how to play. You should know when it is time to take a run so you can avoid gettin a train on you, and also when you can run in closer so you actually have range to heal, I saw a couple of moments when people died simply because you wasnt in a good position, and you also said you havent taken along the bad moments I dont wanna know how it looks when you stand in a really really bad position if you get what I mean. Suggest you remove spreadheal from your QB for a month, learn to play without it like oldschoolers did, rely on singlehealing the most and if you learn it, you will see your HP healed / manapoint spent go up a shitload and sure, a spreadheal is fine here and there, but spamming it is baaad, something is fundamentally wrong then, no healer can sustain spreadhealing that much without going OOP very fast. Manamanagement = more chanse of a win in a longer fight and also allow you to beat a 2nd group adding after the first won fight. You win nothing when beeing OOP right?

Anyhow, nothing personal ofc its just a game.

 

[Minn]

you deserve to be not overpowered after infiltrator and savage tho rm is the only mid caster which is not fucked up in one way or another xDDDD

and your rr5 still beats mine :\ infact i cant really tell any RR5 which is so useless as chanter one, even arms one is better xD

never saw my shaman as overpowered tbh...

 

[Minn]

oh and btw, can someone give another host ? Cant dl from the one, Blejs posted

 

[Belomar]

never saw my shaman as overpowered tbh...

Don't underestimate the Shaman in a full group--the mere fact that Mid groups can afford to have a dedicated interruptor and shearer in a group is one of the major factors that make Midgard so powerful. In addition, giving the fast cast speed shears to a class with access to a 70 base dex race is just silly, really.

 

[Dorin]

Don't underestimate the Shaman in a full group--the mere fact that Mid groups can afford to have a dedicated interruptor and shearer in a group is one of the major factors that make Midgard so powerful. In addition, giving the fast cast speed shears to a class with access to a 70 base dex race is just silly, really.

+moc1 is not a sacrifice as shears - ae_dis (or mabeh root for interrupt) - dot works just fine and the class doesnt have to heal.... kinda silyl compared to druid - cleric who has to go moc3 (moc2+moh4 fine aswell though point wise same shit). :

 

[Wazkyr]

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Apache/1.3.34 Server at mze.pri.ee Port 80

Any other place i can find and download this movie?

 

[Belomar]

kinda silyl compared to druid - cleric who has to go moc3 (moc2+moh4 fine aswell though point wise same shit). :

Not to mention that Druids get by far the worst version of shears ever--3.0 sec cast speed and they do damage, but only a measly amount and the damage component will (a) break mezz infallibly and (b) not work if the shear component doesn't work (i.e. you can't keep shearing someone to death).

In terms of shears, it clearly is Shaman >> Cleric > Druid.

 

[Puppet]

cleric who has to go moc3 (moc2+moh4 fine aswell though point wise same shit). :

Just a correction a good one and a half month later:

MOC2 + MoH4 isnt the same pointwise

5+10 + 1 +3 +6 +10 +14 = 49 points spend

MOC3 is 'just' 30 points.

 

[Dorin]

Just a correction a good one and a half month later:

MOC2 + MoH4 isnt the same pointwise

5+10 + 1 +3 +6 +10 +14 = 49 points spend

MOC3 is 'just' 30 points.

moc2: 5+10 = 15
moh4: 1+3+6+10= 20

so 35 dunno if my point was that RP spending wise same shit meant to be loads of rp spent on the ability(abilities) compared to moc1 which is only 5.