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legot
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You're sure about this?
You're sure about this?
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Kahland
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Hehe biff you got some good players in your guild, but youre not one of them. 
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Jiggs
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because, lets say albs fire SoS and BoF, now while they in godmode they can prolly kill 2-3 of the mid group, they'll prolly go for the shamen and healers first
so shamen down, gets PRd, shamen down again, then albs move to first healer he goes down..
now at this point BoF is wearing off and there are still still 2 healers alive, *theoretically* with with PR up... healers can even afford just to rez them cos 110% those clerics aint gonna last long whit 3 savages on them and no BoF, and once the clerics are down the alb group is easy rlms...
and shamen just pops disease which stops the non-SoS tanks dead in their tracks..
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like i say give albs the melee relics and all of a sudden those mercs and armsman start dealing some real damage, in that situation 3 alb tanks assisting become downright evil.
i'd say relics fuck up the fun of this game in the fg rvr sense, hey really unbalance rvr 'cos mercs/savages/arms/warriors whit melee relics are way too good...
but without relics i guess game is a bit one dimensional so who knows *shrug
alb can do 3 clerics and drop the sorcerer, which will help them versus mids alot, but then they get screwed when they got to fight more than a fg enemy with no decent CC...
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one point you've missed, assuming 2 healers have pr, then 2 clerics will probably have bof, so by the time bof is off its probably gonna be too late
who do you play on prdy now jiggs?
who do you play on prdy now jiggs?
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succi
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Maybe you all should listen to the people who have played the best FG setup of all 3 realms ?
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Jiggs
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3 healers aule,
maybe thats why you are losing?
u need THREE healers 1 pac and 2 mend...
on my main acc, i am just leveling a blademaster, 1.5ish levels to 50
also got access to 50savage, a shamen and warrior (cant remember levls tbh) on mid/pryd, but playing savage is just very gay imo, i kinda like being the underdog its why i play alb and hib mainly
maybe thats why you are losing?
u need THREE healers 1 pac and 2 mend...
on my main acc, i am just leveling a blademaster, 1.5ish levels to 50
also got access to 50savage, a shamen and warrior (cant remember levls tbh) on mid/pryd, but playing savage is just very gay imo, i kinda like being the underdog its why i play alb and hib mainly
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Kahland
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Who ?
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eynar
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Sure, cuz we all know that all of us roam around in that setup every day...
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Originally posted by Jiggs
because, lets say albs fire SoS and BoF, now while they in godmode they can prolly kill 2-3 of the mid group, they'll prolly go for the shamen and healers first
so shamen down, gets PRd, shamen down again, then albs move to first healer he goes down..
now at this point BoF is wearing off and there are still still 2 healers alive, *theoretically* with with PR up... healers can even afford just to rez them cos 110% those clerics aint gonna last long whit 3 savages on them and no BoF, and once the clerics are down the alb group is easy rlms...
and shamen just pops disease which stops the non-SoS tanks dead in their tracks..
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like i say give albs the melee relics and all of a sudden those mercs and armsman start dealing some real damage, in that situation 3 alb tanks assisting become downright evil.
i'd say relics fuck up the fun of this game in the fg rvr sense, hey really unbalance rvr 'cos mercs/savages/arms/warriors whit melee relics are way too good...
but without relics i guess game is a bit one dimensional so who knows *shrug
alb can do 3 clerics and drop the sorcerer, which will help them versus mids alot, but then they get screwed when they got to fight more than a fg enemy with no decent CC...
HEEHEHE very funny indeed..especialy this part ""and shamen just pops disease which stops the non-SoS tanks dead in their tracks.. "" LOL ehhh why ??? did the disease icon frighten them ???
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klavrynd
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the shamen are some 80ies band afaik
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Jiggs
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erm cos the disease has a speed penalty perhaps....
if u dont even know what ur classes are capable of then why bother making a clueless comment?
didnt u ever watch the MM video with the shamen running around doing insta pb disease on everyone? i know they do some pbaoe setup but its same prinicple...
honestly u pryd mids should get together with the albs from excalibur u'd make a great team with ur 2hd paladins, and shamens who dont know how to use disease
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Only thing you can do now vs a good group as a shaman is trying to avoid the 4-5 tanks hitting you from landing styles and pbaoe disease.
And please Nerf PF its so frekin overpowerd. Minstrel stun you.. tanks get up in your ass and start hitting you. Either run(get pf instantly kinda) or just pbaoe disease and try to avoid them getting styles in.
Me no like tbh
And please Nerf PF its so frekin overpowerd. Minstrel stun you.. tanks get up in your ass and start hitting you. Either run(get pf instantly kinda) or just pbaoe disease and try to avoid them getting styles in.
Me no like tbh
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Disease doesnt snare, only the pbaoe disease. Get a clue
And Matthanes, you guys do your fotm melee group always, if you atleast tried something else, you can beat NP and even the mids...but you dont even try, you just invite 3x rr7+ mercs, and you're running against newbie groups
And Matthanes, you guys do your fotm melee group always, if you atleast tried something else, you can beat NP and even the mids...but you dont even try, you just invite 3x rr7+ mercs, and you're running against newbie groups
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Or maybe we shouldn't?
I though SoS ignored any action that would normally break speed?
IE snare, root, getting attacked etc. If that's the case then insta disease shouldn't do jack shit to SoS'ed tanks?
And besides, telling people that they don't know how to play they're own class when you don't have proper experience in playing the said class at high levels yourself.
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Originally posted by Jiggs
erm cos the disease has a speed penalty perhaps....
if u dont even know what ur classes are capable of then why bother making a clueless comment?
didnt u ever watch the MM video with the shamen running around doing insta pb disease on everyone? i know they do some pbaoe setup but its same prinicple...
honestly u pryd mids should get together with the albs from excalibur u'd make a great team with ur 2hd paladins, and shamens who dont know how to use disease
yer and classing a whole realm in one category AFTER saying that a shammy from the realm in question knows what hes doing?
maybe u should hae stayed in alb/excal no?
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"Those Nolbys.." Really getting sick of the stupidity on Alb/Exc! Also the generalisation u always do. You have an interesting point regarding the 2fg hibs being very strong though.
Tell me, you say that we are discussing the RA's - SoS is 30min, BoF is 15min and also not 100% that they are up. Very few people have capped energy-resists and aom2 in Albion, why really? I only mentioned purge and TEM2 as a helpful TOOL! But that u fail to see. The assisting and syncing is way more important, but i guess you just cant stop flaming NP. Would your post look diffirently if my sig didnt say NP? Probably, and that what makes you really sad. Also, for the mid who stated hib>mid every day, check Excalibur - Mid is the overpowered realm there, funny isnt it?
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And this is coming to my attention that MAYBE you should stay at Excalibur, and leave our peaceful boards as they are. I used to play Excalibur and my oh my nothing can make you guys happy, decent people went to total assholes, hence Krane, Aussie. Love for Zoyster, Outlaw for their funny attitude and act towards the game My guild Dragon Knights was very friendly aswell, but you just never stop whining. Just compare the Excalibur- and the Prydwen-boards, its distusting.
It would be nice with a few more in Hibernia as we really are lacking population compared to the others, but please,
DONT COME HERE - STAY AT EXCALIBUR !
My guild Dragon Knights was very friendly aswell, but you just never stop whining. Just compare the Excalibur- and the Prydwen-boards, its distusting.It would be nice with a few more in Hibernia as we really are lacking population compared to the others, but please,
DONT COME HERE - STAY AT EXCALIBUR !
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Well Jiggs not that fare of .
3 x PR will equal alot out if albs sos and bof. Biggest diff is that we gonna loose end in 10 sec and no PR can replace that and then no disease is landed coz shammy to busy giving end to people.
Still albs end up with 2 dead cleriks and pale or friar has to rez.
If now it is high RR healers there is also 3x moc V 2x moc.
On paper balanced fight i say, still who gets the jump has better chance of wining .
Best assisting wins and MA targeting if all play maximum.
Playing hib on excal u allmost never fight good alb groups, So seems piss easy to kill albs.
Low rr < any realm
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3 x PR will equal alot out if albs sos and bof. Biggest diff is that we gonna loose end in 10 sec and no PR can replace that and then no disease is landed coz shammy to busy giving end to people.
Still albs end up with 2 dead cleriks and pale or friar has to rez.
If now it is high RR healers there is also 3x moc V 2x moc.
On paper balanced fight i say, still who gets the jump has better chance of wining .
Best assisting wins and MA targeting if all play maximum.
Playing hib on excal u allmost never fight good alb groups, So seems piss easy to kill albs.
Low rr < any realm
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Sharma
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Havent met teh BD zerg0r yet then?
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Originally posted by sharma
Havent met teh BD zerg0r yet then?
havent met teh mentalist RA yet have u
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I would love to try a pbaoe group in alb but it would NEVER happen because i can never find a fucking lv50 ice wiz to play alongside mine and besides most alb casters would play more if they wasn't aoe stunned and dead in 2 hits or so.
What about mid melee groups?they fotm too?
Also we beaten NP a few times with a fg and they beaten us,so what?
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lol okok tildson, it just seems every time someone makes a point about rvr (on pryd or excal) some guy from nolby comes and says: well use xxx RA, like RAs=base abilites always when it dont!
maybe i'm getting the wrong end of the stick but u guys (cougar and estat?) were saying use smite clerics recently...
anyway whatever ur opinion, i just play for fun, i played hib/pryd a loooong time before nolby ever went there <FoPW> is a very old hib guild if you want to check that...
i found both hib/pryd and mid/pryd to be full of nice people and good players generally while i exped there, alb i have no idea
ok so lets take a more calm assesment (really i dont have similar attitude to krane, outlaw etc at all, and i don't in general find alb/exc that gimped from my guild's rvr group perspective only nolby and jack herer are hard to beat, thats like 2 fg of dedicated RvR players: hardly the end of the world)
i'm surprised that mids find RvR tough on pydwen, its correct (imo) to say that ignoring the big group RAs (SoS, GP, ichor etc etc) and relics mids *should* on paper be the toughest realm, with albs an extremely close second.
so whats the problem mids on pryd find? they are getting mullered by pbaoe hibs using MoC, GP and BAoD on one side and on the other they got a high rr merc gank group with SoS and BoF...
in answer i dunno what to say, it *should* be apparent that pbaoe disease, PR, ichor, using 3 healers and 3 savages will put u on an even standing against those groups, i'm not in a position to give you a step by step guide to winning, i only played against those groups! only good team play, using the right classes to the max and practice, practice, practice can help you!
i think albs give mids a fair fight with all RAs up and relics withstanding. I guess its something like 50/50, maybe 60/50 in mids favour due to the current superiority of savages (hmm they dont even need end buff zapzap!)
(give one side all the melee relics and its more like 80% in thats sides favour)
anyway i was agreeing with the threads original (somewhat oddly worded ) proposition, feels really odd to agrue for the good things midgard has!
its not my intention to turn this into some kind of flaming thing, i just dont think mids should be feeling that they are disadvantaged in some way, when they are capable of fielding extremely competitive RvR groups...
maybe i'm getting the wrong end of the stick but u guys (cougar and estat?) were saying use smite clerics recently...
anyway whatever ur opinion, i just play for fun, i played hib/pryd a loooong time before nolby ever went there <FoPW> is a very old hib guild if you want to check that...
i found both hib/pryd and mid/pryd to be full of nice people and good players generally while i exped there, alb i have no idea
ok so lets take a more calm assesment (really i dont have similar attitude to krane, outlaw etc at all, and i don't in general find alb/exc that gimped from my guild's rvr group perspective only nolby and jack herer are hard to beat, thats like 2 fg of dedicated RvR players: hardly the end of the world)
i'm surprised that mids find RvR tough on pydwen, its correct (imo) to say that ignoring the big group RAs (SoS, GP, ichor etc etc) and relics mids *should* on paper be the toughest realm, with albs an extremely close second.
so whats the problem mids on pryd find? they are getting mullered by pbaoe hibs using MoC, GP and BAoD on one side and on the other they got a high rr merc gank group with SoS and BoF...
in answer i dunno what to say, it *should* be apparent that pbaoe disease, PR, ichor, using 3 healers and 3 savages will put u on an even standing against those groups, i'm not in a position to give you a step by step guide to winning, i only played against those groups! only good team play, using the right classes to the max and practice, practice, practice can help you!
i think albs give mids a fair fight with all RAs up and relics withstanding. I guess its something like 50/50, maybe 60/50 in mids favour due to the current superiority of savages (hmm they dont even need end buff zapzap!)
(give one side all the melee relics and its more like 80% in thats sides favour)
anyway i was agreeing with the threads original (somewhat oddly worded
) proposition, feels really odd to agrue for the good things midgard has!its not my intention to turn this into some kind of flaming thing, i just dont think mids should be feeling that they are disadvantaged in some way, when they are capable of fielding extremely competitive RvR groups...
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Jiggs
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its a fair point, but i just got a bit annoyed with people claming disease is no use, sorry for all shamens i offended
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Scunner
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Alb has a shed load of ice wizards just people dont give thema chance u always field one per group which is completely pointless.
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Phelicia
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"you's"?
Are you Redb's secret twin, or sumthin?
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Very true, half of the ice wizards that dinged 50 in the last 6 months are now inactive because they can't get regular groups and they die fast in pickup groups because lousy tanks don't protect the casters.
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Coincedently, the lack of tanks that are willing to protect casters instead of flailing around after rp was one of the main reasons I stopped RvRing as Roo for quite a long time. It was very depressing. Junior becoming a blockmeister changes that a bit but I've got to get out of my habit of sending him to harass casters and healers and keep him beside me instead.
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Roo the fact is no protecting will keep a caster up , best protection caster can have is other casters so best is PBAE group if u a caster.
Have tanks runing around trying to protect healers shammy and casters, leaves group with nobody to kill with.
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Have tanks runing around trying to protect healers shammy and casters, leaves group with nobody to kill with.
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nerf biffens elite talk ;>