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/bow
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Well, Tzeentch, judging by what has happened last 2 nights that early morning RR has done nothing but good for RvR. There was over hundred middies defending their frontier last night and I think even more night before that, SINCE WE NOW HAVE SOMETHING TO ACTUALLY DEFEND, and because hibs actually have reason to come at odins. So it seems your fear for this RR to ruin RvR has been unnecessary.
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Ahh yes, shush everyone, the uber Poon speaks again, the man who seems to take a perverse delight in trying to further his own realm and trashing other realms. No matter how agreeable you try to be, he will always get in a flame and a whine to boot.
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StormriderX
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There have been a lot more middies running around lately which can only be a good thing - would sir like rps from albion or midguard?
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old.Nol
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amendment from midgard
the honest answer would be "we are too weak to take your relics at a decent hour, so we did it when we knew no one would be there to stop us."
runolaz - How come albion managed to take dagda? they proved it can be done.
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Urme the Legend
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we are too weak to take your relics at a decent hour, so we did it when we knew no one would be there to stop us.
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old.Nol
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thank you ... you should sell cars.
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agreiloth
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maybe he does?
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old.Nol
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think he sells them on the night shift? I have reason to believe many mids work night shift...
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Urme the Legend
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Ohh.. your jokes are getting better and better! :sleeping:
Guess it's tough coming up with new "whines" all the time.
Guess it's tough coming up with new "whines" all the time.
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Some people seriously need to take a break from this game. To get this worked up over a GAME is unhealthy.
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old.Nol
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agreed jarrax, some people even set their alarm clocks to go on raids...
Thanks Urme, it means alot coming from you.
Thanks Urme, it means alot coming from you.
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hehe I remember setting my alarm clock for 3am just to check a raid was going well on Planetarion. Kinda sad I guess, but was a student at the time so didn't really care. Was good fun seeing everyone log onto irc at 3am. 15 mins later everyone would be in bed again
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old.Nol
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Well I guess we fall into the sad category. I am sad because I have the audacity to think that the early morning raid was cheap and easy *gasp*.
Well I guess we fall into the sad category. I am sad because I have the audacity to think that the early morning raid was cheap and easy *gasp*.
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Recently there where created a new alliance in Midgard. The alliance where created between friendly guilds who love the game and plays a lot together in groups. First the alliance aimed on getting some items and hunting down the big and scary creatures in Midgard. After some raid’s and venturing in Darkness Fall, we started to explorer the RvR and develop some tactics. This included taking keeps, defend them when possible and getting familiar with Emain, Hadrians and siege eqipment, with the focus on capture our relics back. Taking a relic aren’t easy unless you can show up with a very large army. So we decided to make some practising first. And well you all know the result of this. Midgard did get 2 relic’s back to strengthened their offensive and defensive with a few bonuses, which we have missed for the last couples of months.
I just read all the comments about our raid Saturday. There’s a few lines which keep popping up. The first is: “ What fun did we see in attacking a keep only defended by NPC’s”
Actual I for once did find it exciting, interesting and had a lot of fun under the raid. There’s several reasons for this. First to see how many would actual show up and if any spie’s had captured our plans(the raid was planned 4 day’s ahead). And I must say I’m impressed that nearly 50 did show up and that none of the other realms did know about the plan’s. The next interesting point was to see if our tactic/plan was good enough. This including amount of ram’s, if our informers(SB/Hunters) where placed correct, would people listen to the people in charge of the raid and could we keep hibs and albs away from the relic while we where bashing on the doors. Most of it did success. But we made our mistakes on the way and we learned from them for our next raid (I hope). You should have seen our face’s when the third door was almost down to zero and the wizard did spawn and kill all our tanks with some nuke’s. I was sure we would have lost it there. But we all released and did regroup and went back to claim what was our’s from our birth. Then we did escort the relic’s back and once again something unexpected did happen, some albs had gathered and took the other relic while the doors where down. But to our luck some hibs did take it back just 5 minuts after, so we could go and get it after having escorted the first relic back. The second time a few hibs where protecting it, but they where to few. The whole event did take around 3 hour’s so I must admit I’m a little surprised that neither alb nor hibs could gather 1 or 2 full groups and attack us. It only shows that people think more about xp’ing their alts than defending their country. This is also including the mids.
The second thing people do mention a lot on this thread is the time for the raid.
The reason we did choose to start at 6.30 CET was that we aren’t the biggest guilds and that many of our members is still in the early 40’s. So we had no chance to take it in prime time. Besides it was important for us to see if our tactic did work or if it needed a few changes. The raid did take more than 3 hours, so both realms had more than enough time to gather a small army and attack us in the rear.
Who knows, perhaps we take the next in prime time ( ohh btw what is prime time and what country do we take it from ? In Legends of Midgard we have members from all over the world. Some play’s at 03.00 while other play’s at 09.00 as prime time).
Well last I would like to say thx to all those who showed up for the event and for keeping this a nice and clean hunt without any XXX word’s, even that we meet a few difficulties on the way. And special thx to those who did arrange, made the plan/tactic for it and did take the lead.
Oh and btw I wont complain if the other realms did pay back by arrange something similar, since it takes a lot of work to get enough people to show up, dealing with rams and with unexpected things. Hope to see you all in Odins again, so we can get away from all the zerging in Emian. And why not visit Hardians oncein a while ?
Yours Sincerely,
Dalamor Dracon
Leader of Legends of Midgard.
www.legendsofmidgard.dk
I just read all the comments about our raid Saturday. There’s a few lines which keep popping up. The first is: “ What fun did we see in attacking a keep only defended by NPC’s”
Actual I for once did find it exciting, interesting and had a lot of fun under the raid. There’s several reasons for this. First to see how many would actual show up and if any spie’s had captured our plans(the raid was planned 4 day’s ahead). And I must say I’m impressed that nearly 50 did show up and that none of the other realms did know about the plan’s. The next interesting point was to see if our tactic/plan was good enough. This including amount of ram’s, if our informers(SB/Hunters) where placed correct, would people listen to the people in charge of the raid and could we keep hibs and albs away from the relic while we where bashing on the doors. Most of it did success. But we made our mistakes on the way and we learned from them for our next raid (I hope). You should have seen our face’s when the third door was almost down to zero and the wizard did spawn and kill all our tanks with some nuke’s. I was sure we would have lost it there. But we all released and did regroup and went back to claim what was our’s from our birth. Then we did escort the relic’s back and once again something unexpected did happen, some albs had gathered and took the other relic while the doors where down. But to our luck some hibs did take it back just 5 minuts after, so we could go and get it after having escorted the first relic back. The second time a few hibs where protecting it, but they where to few. The whole event did take around 3 hour’s so I must admit I’m a little surprised that neither alb nor hibs could gather 1 or 2 full groups and attack us. It only shows that people think more about xp’ing their alts than defending their country. This is also including the mids.
The second thing people do mention a lot on this thread is the time for the raid.
The reason we did choose to start at 6.30 CET was that we aren’t the biggest guilds and that many of our members is still in the early 40’s. So we had no chance to take it in prime time. Besides it was important for us to see if our tactic did work or if it needed a few changes. The raid did take more than 3 hours, so both realms had more than enough time to gather a small army and attack us in the rear.
Who knows, perhaps we take the next in prime time ( ohh btw what is prime time and what country do we take it from ? In Legends of Midgard we have members from all over the world. Some play’s at 03.00 while other play’s at 09.00 as prime time).
Well last I would like to say thx to all those who showed up for the event and for keeping this a nice and clean hunt without any XXX word’s, even that we meet a few difficulties on the way. And special thx to those who did arrange, made the plan/tactic for it and did take the lead.
Oh and btw I wont complain if the other realms did pay back by arrange something similar, since it takes a lot of work to get enough people to show up, dealing with rams and with unexpected things. Hope to see you all in Odins again, so we can get away from all the zerging in Emian. And why not visit Hardians oncein a while ?
Yours Sincerely,
Dalamor Dracon
Leader of Legends of Midgard.
www.legendsofmidgard.dk
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Runolaz
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The differnece is that Albs outnumber us 2:1 on server in total. In emain the difference is even higher probably around 3:1+ during "primetime". Some days are less, but in average these numbers make up. Even if we Mids managed to snatch the relick during primetime, how do we get past Albs unless they let us go unharmed (and thats a lot to ask
)? The other way arround Mids will only function as a "speedbump" at amg when albs are coming through. I belive that the only Relics Midard has a small chance to take "primetime" is the ones inside the walls of Excalibur.
Battlespirit wasn't that high here in Mid after beeing without any relics for weeks and "nerfed" in numbers of lvl 50's by PvP, so the future to us looked dark. We had long talks in our alliance about doing raids like this or not, but we came to the conclution that it was the only rigth thing to do at the moment.
IHOM Midgard because of server population and Emain beeing the main RvR-sone is the easiest place to make a Relicraid. If everybody switched from Emain to Odin's...Hib would be the easiest. If Hadrian...w00t ---> Alb impossible 110%...
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Originally posted by Runolaz
The differnece is that Albs outnumber us 2:1 on server in total. In emain the difference is even higher probably around 3:1+ during "primetime". Some days are less, but in average these numbers make up. Even if we Mids managed to snatch the relick during primetime, how do we get past Albs unless they let us go unharmed (and thats a lot to ask
I belive that the only Relics Midard has a small chance to take "primetime" is the ones inside the walls of Excalibur.
Battlespirit wasn't that high here in Mid after beeing without any relics for weeks and "nerfed" in numbers of lvl 50's by PvP, so the future to us looked dark. We had long talks in our alliance about doing raids like this or not, but we came to the conclution that it was the only rigth thing to do at the moment.
IHOM Midgard because of server population and Emain beeing the main RvR-sone is the easiest place to make a Relicraid. If everybody switched from Emain to Odin's...Hib would be the easiest. If Hadrian...w00t ---> Alb impossible 110%...
How come albion managed to move such high numbers through Hibernia without being spotted until they were on door 3? Ofcourse it is difficult, but that's what makes it an accomplishment.
Instead you sink to this...I am sorry but there is no justification. You came to the conclusion that it was the right thing to do, but you never, ever considered the consequences.
With regards to "now midgard feel pride in defending their frontier, because they have something to defend", my question is WTF for, why defend your frontier? Someone is only going to come and get your relics while you sleep, your defense would have been in vain.
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Originally posted by Runolaz
The differnece is that Albs outnumber us 2:1 on server in total. In emain the difference is even higher probably around 3:1+ during "primetime". Some days are less, but in average these numbers make up. Even if we Mids managed to snatch the relick during primetime, how do we get past Albs unless they let us go unharmed (and thats a lot to ask
Hibs are outnumbered worse, doesnt provide justification for us relic raiding u at 5am. you make it sound like Hibernia relies on Albion to defend it's frontier.. I'm not sure where you get this idea from.. Hibernia only relies on Albion to provide rps which Midgard is too scared to do
Good luck, but it will be a helluva lot harder than a 5am raid on a deserted Dagda
The end does not justify the means (gotta love cliche's), someday you will realise that it's the journey that's important, not the destination (but that's getting on to philosophy, off topic, apologies
)If you believe that the end does justify the means then you should be prepared to accept the contempt you earn by your means.
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Read it again...
Why would we need any justification from you? This is a game...what could the possible consequences be??
There are a small groud "elite" ppl in each realm in this game that plays it to be best, the rest of us plays this game because we have found a fun game and met new friends. If you come an get it, we will get them back soon enough you can rest asure on that...and no it has not been in vain at all.
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old.Nol
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If all the albs are in emain - all you need to do is send a few fgs to excali to make them all suicide - leaving emain free. It's a simple tactic and very effective.
Consequences are simple...what is the point of going anywhere besides emain anymore, anyone can get any relics anytime they want to now..
And in your last paragraph, you prove my point to the tee. Yes, you can come back at anytime = consequences = zerg emain. What is the point of getting the relics back, we know you will cheap shot us again, because you're a bunch of top class wankers. Where's the fun in playing a game where one realm refuses to take part, because they find it a touch difficult to get objects of desire from a smaller realm?
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No point at all.
Now we have sorted that out, can those of us who werent up at death'o'clock come and get the last 1? Just unlock the doors please, we promise not to let the trolls poop in the corner, and we'll turn the lights off when we go. Thanks
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old.Nol
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Originally posted by Jarrax
No point at all.
Now we have sorted that out, can those of us who werent up at death'o'clock come and get the last 1? Just unlock the doors please, we promise not to let the trolls poop in the corner, and we'll turn the lights off when we go. Thanks
Just set your alarm, I doubt very much anyone will be waiting up for you. Please inform the other 2 realms on when you wish to start being included in the game, so we can make sure not to let your ikkle spirits get hurt again.
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You play an old song Nol, noone i've talked to have said that the relic raid ruined RvR.. most actually say the opposite (yes, even some hibs and albs)...
And yes if morning/nightly relic raids turn into something we all do all the time, it can have a negative effect on us all.
But its still a part of the game and will happen sometimes, nothing u nor I can change about that. And these odd RRs will have no negative effect on excal at least not for me....
/Agreiloth
And yes if morning/nightly relic raids turn into something we all do all the time, it can have a negative effect on us all.
But its still a part of the game and will happen sometimes, nothing u nor I can change about that. And these odd RRs will have no negative effect on excal at least not for me....
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Originally posted by Amadon
Hibs are outnumbered worse, doesnt provide justification for us relic raiding u at 5am. you make it sound like Hibernia relies on Albion to defend it's frontier.. I'm not sure where you get this idea from.. Hibernia only relies on Albion to provide rps which Midgard is too scared to do
As I said in the post above we only needed to seek justification from our members, and could not care less what you think.
I lasted from 06.30 - 09.30 CET, but yes it will be much harder...
And why should we worry about this...
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As I stated in a previous thread, it is mainly the albs that makes it hard to get to your relics without being spotted, it aint you hibs that is the main threat when getting there.
Therefor, it is not so surprising that albs got there undetected is it?
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as stated in a previous thread, it only take 3fg's pulling at excal to get the albs to suicide and leave emain barren.
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Lol, you can patronise me allday if it makes you feel better, I wasnt on the RR, never will be at that time of day. But you carry on tarring all mids with the same brush mate. Whatever floats your boat is fine by me.
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old.Nol
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You people run your arguments in circles. You are too ashamed to admit it was lame. and by doing so, you are setting yourselves up for the same treatment. No matter how many holes I find in your arguments, you will continue to argue because it tarnishes you pride(though you pretend it doesn't). It's not the fact that you took the relics when you did that is so appauling, but rather the fact that you so vociferously defend doing it the way you did.
Runolaz - if you don't care what we think, then why do you bother trying to justify it?
Agreiloth - probably because you have not felt the full brunt of what you have done yet. Take a moment to think about what will happen if the Hibs retaliate by taking the relics back at 6am?
The motivation for doing what you did is pathetic.
Runolaz - if you don't care what we think, then why do you bother trying to justify it?
Agreiloth - probably because you have not felt the full brunt of what you have done yet. Take a moment to think about what will happen if the Hibs retaliate by taking the relics back at 6am?
The motivation for doing what you did is pathetic.
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old.Nol
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It has nothing to do with the actual relic raid anymore, it's you people justifying it. You should be spurning those those fools that did it, not painting them as hero's and the savious of midgard. If a hib alliance did it, they would be the laughing stock of hibernia, but now I fear you are justifying retaliation.
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Hmm, pretty sure I haven't defended the actions of those on the RR, or condemned them either. Maybe because I have realised that the server is up 24/7, that people all pay to play this game, that people play on this server from many different timezones and that people all have differing lifestyles dictating when they can/cant play.
So what they want to do with the time online for which they are paying for, is upto them.
If all those factors means that they dont play according to your view..tough titties me ole china. Get over it. Get up at 5am, take the relics back if you feel that strongly, or organise a huge raid in what you have decided is the correct and only time to do RR's, succeed and be the "bigger" man.
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