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Warning - violence

If this assault had taken place in a country of which I was president, those 3 would be in public stocks, every weekend, for the rest of their natural lives. Thats after finishing a 20 year prison sentence that is.

Edited to link to The Sun
 

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What exactly was the point in posting that?
 

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20 years of being some old fat inmates "personal friend" suddenly is justified :)
 

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an event like this happend outside my uni last week. 2 vs 3.

the 3 batterd the 2 and then stabbed one in the chest and stabbed the other in the back 3 times.
 

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Vote me into power and this would stop, or at least these people would physically cease to exist.... after they were publicly drowned.
 

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That is apalling, where did you come across the link Tom? Anyone know the condition of the victims? In a few months time when you find out what pitiful sentences these three get, don't forget to resurrect this thread.
 

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probably be the victims going into prison for trying to defend them selves too much :/
 

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Tom, a little difference between warning violence and showing someone effectively a video of a murder. Made me feel all tarnished inside.

This country is shite. I've told this story before, but a mate of mine, his wife was six months pregnant. She worked late at night, so a male friend offered to escort her home. Walking back home through a park they bump into a group of two boys and their girlfriends, who refuse to get out of the way. He said "Come on guys, isn't it past your bedtime", and got stabbed three times for it. When the police arrived to take a statement, they knew the boy they were after because he stabbed someone else the month before.

Stabbing someone more than twice should ALWAYS be attempted murder, or murder if they die. Stamping on someone's head more than twice should ALWAYS be the same. No wonder we have escalation, when stabbing someone is effectively treated in law in most cases as just an extension of fighting. Mark Hobson, the guy who murdered his girlfriend, her sister, and an old couple as well, had previously stabbed a love rival five times and been given community service. The legal system has had its teeth removed. Our prisons are full, they have rights, bleh. Build more prisons, have harsher punishments, investigate crimes instead of just cataloguing them so that people don't get away with so much crap that they end up hardened career criminals before they get caught, and then work on rehabilitation within that framework. Thats what galls me about this left wing system, they keep on about how it protects human rights but really it shafts them. People have a right to grow up within a civilised society, and that means enforcing the rules of that society upon them to allow them to grow up civilised. Lax immigration laws allow human slavery to flourish, and lives to be devalued, filthy secrets, hidden out of sight. Lax criminal laws allow people's lives to become meaningless feral messes. Its rubbish.
 

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That article in the sun makes me fucking sick - disgusting so called news reporting. I hope they fucking burn.
 

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Tom said:
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If this assault had taken place in a country of which I was president, those 3 would be in public stocks, every weekend, for the rest of their natural lives. Thats after finishing a 20 year prison sentence that is.

Scum does not sum though people up. Im sitting watching that video wishing that those 3 would die, but that would be too fitting for them. If I had my way with them they would be begging for death. That video is one of the sickest things I have ever seen.
Worst type of fucking scum they are, run up and jump people they outnumber with a sucker punch and carrying weapon, totally unprovoked attack. They need to suffer, badly.
 

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To Lou:

What you touched on is the reason this country is shit is because nobody loses any rights anymore. If you drive like a twat, you 'might' get dragged to court where all you have to say is "I need it to get to work" and you get a fine... the fact that you killed 10 people is irrelevent basically because 'they're already gone'

Unfortunatly now it's gotten so stupid that an eye for an eye is what will be required to bring things back into line because it will get to the stage where 'the great unwashed' demand blood.

In my world, prison would be: 6x10 cell (no window, no chance of getting out then), 2 bunks, 1 bucket (with grease paper bog roll), 1 sink and every crime would carry a stretch, even if it was just 2 days (say for swearing at an officer).
 

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nath said:
That article in the sun makes me fucking sick - disgusting so called news reporting. I hope they fucking burn.

Is this a deliberate troll ? :eek6:
 

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Damini said:
Thats what galls me about this left wing system, they keep on about how it protects human rights but really it shafts them. People have a right to grow up within a civilised society, and that means enforcing the rules of that society upon them to allow them to grow up civilised. Lax immigration laws allow human slavery to flourish, and lives to be devalued, filthy secrets, hidden out of sight. Lax criminal laws allow people's lives to become meaningless feral messes. Its rubbish.

You fucking said it Dam.
 

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Wij said:
Is this a deliberate troll ? :eek6:

How was it a troll? I'm not saying anything about the crime or what sort of punishment they should get. I just think the sun is a fucking terrible paper and that was an awful article. They should not be putting that video on the web, regardless of whether they have permission from the victims families. It's attrocious.
 
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Its things like that what makes me wish england had the death penaulty like the USA... its stupid sick unprovoked chav bollocks... hope they all burn in hell along with the shitty excuse for a bloodline that spawned them... worthless fuckers
 

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nath said:
How was it a troll? I'm not saying anything about the crime or what sort of punishment they should get. I just think the sun is a fucking terrible paper and that was an awful article. They should not be putting that video on the web, regardless of whether they have permission from the victims families. It's attrocious.

I was shocked that it was on the web.
 

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nath said:
How was it a troll? I'm not saying anything about the crime or what sort of punishment they should get. I just think the sun is a fucking terrible paper and that was an awful article. They should not be putting that video on the web, regardless of whether they have permission from the victims families. It's attrocious.

I agree, I thought snuff films were illegal.
 

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Tom you are a sick FUCK!!!

You should be banned for linking to that without proper warning. Warning murder video would be more appropriate.

You are more fucked up in the head than I originally thought
 

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GDW said:
Warning murder video would be more appropriate.

Havn't agreed with you before GDW but yes i'm not sure just "Violence" was quite accurage enough.
 

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Im very angry at this. I had a brother who was stabbed in an incident similar to this 15 years ago. The last thing I want is something like this shoved down my throat. Enough said.
 

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They should rot for what they did, even death is too good for them.
 

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I'm glad we're not all so de-sensitised by violence that the post didn't trigger a negative reaction. I stand by the wording, and my sentiments. I've been on the receiving end of such violence, only there were no knives involved. It was many years ago and I remember it well.

Just consider if the video shocked you, how shocked do you think the two lads affected were on the night? Thats why the video was released by the lad's parents.
 

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Tom said:
I'm glad we're not all so de-sensitised by violence that the post didn't trigger a negative reaction. I stand by the wording, and my sentiments. I've been on the receiving end of such violence, only there were no knives involved. It was many years ago and I remember it well.

Just consider if the video shocked you, how shocked do you think the two lads affected were on the night? That’s why the video was released by the lad's parents.

De-sensitised is bullshit, anyone with a good grounding in moral norms and values would know that violence is wrong full stop. Its the parents and the education system that is failing our youth and country today.

My Ethics teacher was telling me about a boy in his GCSE RE Exam sat there for 30 minutes doing nothing, when asked why he wasn't doing anything he replied:

"I don't think its necessary."

Chav bastard.
 

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Surely those taking this personally should realise this is exactly the required response.
This is a fucking terrible crime, those involved dont deserve justice or human rights. However, that's exactly what they will get thanks to our wonderful country. Hence releasing the video to show us ignorant, desensitised bastards that these wankers roam our land.

About time something changed tbh...
 

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Tom said:
I'm glad we're not all so de-sensitised by violence that the post didn't trigger a negative reaction. I stand by the wording, and my sentiments. I've been on the receiving end of such violence, only there were no knives involved. It was many years ago and I remember it well.

Just consider if the video shocked you, how shocked do you think the two lads affected were on the night? Thats why the video was released by the lad's parents.


You're full of shit.




edit: Kari - I'm making no comments about this particular incident but the law, justice and punishment should not be made up based on emotional responses. It's just not as simple as that.
 

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