Scam alert !

[Loconian]

Hi everyone,

Last night was a bad "in game" night for me, let me tell you why:
I was helping out a guy with my main char the eld, now in return for my services i offered him, we agreed on making a money transfer from hib excal to pry alb (Cause he said to me he had high level chars on pryd alb and me the fool believed him at that time). So i gave him 1 platinum as he sounded serious and honest to me, we logged both at the same time to go to the server, once there offcourse i wasn't contacted by him...

So i went back to excal hib to ask him what was going on, he now says i gave him the money and doesn't want to give it back to me !
We both agreed on a trade basicly, one party didn't hold to the trade so now i lost my 1 platinum...

I know he got 3 characters on excal hibernia named: Xeqtre, Xzi (that's the char i gave money to yesterday) and photon
Now i asked around on the server about these names and guess what...most of the people have had some troubles with the char he plays most "photon"

Now i probably lost my money for good, but come on, imagine what it can do to the game :

- No more honest trading (the one who gives something first is the "fool")
- No more handing out drops (cause the one who got it keeps it)
- No money transfers to alt chars etc...
- and all other trade related things

This is just a warning for all of you, to bad it happened to me and it's kinda my own fault, but it sure ain't honest from that guy !

Greetings to all

Loco

 

[Ensceptifica]

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I'll be careful not to put myself in a situation where I have to trust this person then.

 

[Salazar]

Ok... lets all remember names and make hes life a living hell.

And Loconian... would you please tell your friends to type your full name when they pm you... my altbard Loco is getting all your pm´s

 

[old.Icebreaker]

Don't trade with ppl you dont know




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Icebreaker <Celtic Fist> still freezed

 

[masentaja]

What classes were his chars?
One name seems oddly familiar...

 

[Salazar]

I think i gave Xzi a piece of gold or two... and he started whining about how little i gave... why aint this PvP...

 

[Danya]

Met photon in thid one time... a very lame individual...
Also if you still want a gold trade to alb/pryd look me up in game, I can do you a few hundred gold.

 

[Slinker]

I know with hindsight , but usually if I'm trading large amounts , I do it for around 250g a go , means logging in and out a few times , but lose less if the person decides to do a runner . I hope you reported this , I'm sure they look down their noses at this sort of behaviour , might even get the scumbag banned .

 

[Gray-CF]

Hi peeps,

Well i just tried speaking to this indivisual about this - and basically got nowhere


Politely asked for a word - got told busy etc - said tough shit - asked about what happend - got told loco gave it to him - asked to to explain more got a bit of a run around and no real answers -

When said did he really want to have his characters screwed on Hib because of lame actions he basiclly said who cares etc etc ill just make another charcater and use the plat i got on that and noone will know who i am.

So to sum up - Xzi = lame as fook

Spoke to GM of guild his alts are in - nice guy - said was having some probs with him as well - so dont blame the guild at all peeps for this lame twats actions.

So remember if u see Xzi face down in the dirt - just have a little chuckle

Even if all this is some misunderstanding - after speaking to him hes still a twat - and peeps that know me know i can stick most peeps - even Sonny

 

[oblivion_6]

i remember seeing this photon guy before he started screaming swear words at me all becuase i was in the same area as him killing mops (not even the ones he was pulling)

he seems like a jerk to me, is there nothing support can do about this like checking log files?

 

[Alrindel]

He was in our guild for a while - he has jumped through several guilds already in his short stay in Hib - and I'm not surprised to hear that he's done this. I hope he backs down and gives the money back, but I'm not optimistic.

 

[MalokOfAxiom]

Loconian approached me about this guy shortly after he started to have the issue with him.. So.. I decided to see what I could do...

I PM'd this char Xzi, and started to have a decent, coherent conversation with him. He seemed receptive to what I had to say, and was quite civilised about the whole thing.

In a nutshell, between the two of us, we agreed that he would reimburse Loconian with what he had left of the 1 Plat (750g) and he agreed to repay the remaining 250g at a later date, to be decided between himself & Loconian. I asked him where he was at the moment, so I could get Loconian to him to commence the transfer. Beetles At Ardee, he said..

I PM'd Loconian, gave him the news, and asked that he make his way to Ardee, and to the beetles, to meet Xzi, and reclaim at least 750g of his gold.

10 mins later, Loconian PM's me to say that Xzi logged in front of his eyes, just as he was approaching the guy..


I mean, come on Xzi..!! you have now made two agreements with your fellow players, Loconian & myself..
On both accounts, you have shown what a low-life player you are.
You cannot be trusted, and in my personal opinion, you should have your character deleted, and your account banned.

Where the hell do you get off, doing this to people..?? What makes you such a disrespectful person to other players in the game..??

Sure you can make new chars, but no matter how many chars you make, if you keep up this sort of behaviour, you will ALWAYS be found out, and your game-life will be made such hell, your characters will NEVER amount to anything. I'm sure the rest of the Sensible & Honourable player community will see to that..


So, do yourself a favour - Do everyone a favour, put right your wrongs, and behave yourself..

 

[oblivion_6]

At least with the intro of the PvP servers this kind of thing can be punished in game

 

[Cloak_]

Loconian,, h8 to see this happen to ppl,, so if u ned some money pm me ingame and ill see what i can spare for u

 

[Noche]

That sux

 

[Loconian]

Xzi , Photon, Xeqtre and missing alt...

Thanks for all the help so far from everyone people, i'm impressed

anyway, i'm not so concerned about the money (but sure would love to have it back offcourse) but this guy just has to be stopped !

ok, here are some chatlogs i send to goa (funny to read) :

*** Chat Log Opened: Tue Oct 08 12:51:46 2002

[12:52:00] @@You send, "so what are you gonna do with my platinum anyway?" to Xzi
[12:52:15] @@Xzi sends, "its not your plat"
[12:53:04] @@You send, "then why have i helped you out? and we agreed on a goldtransfer to alb pry?" to Xzi
[12:54:25] @@You send, "so if it's not my platinum, how come you got it then as a lowbie character?" to Xzi
[12:54:34] @@Xzi sends, "from my mate"
[12:54:40] @@You send, "who is that plz?" to Xzi
[12:54:45] @@Xzi sends, "Marth"
[12:54:53] @@You send, "who is marth?" to Xzi
[12:54:59] @@Xzi sends, "level 48 eld"
[12:55:05] @@You send, "on this server?" to Xzi
[12:55:08] @@Xzi sends, "hes in Terra Dominus"
[12:55:49] @@Xzi sends, "i know him from cs"
[12:55:56] @@Xzi sends, "#er on quakenet"
[12:56:50] @@Xzi sends, "on this char i have 20 g"
[12:56:54] @@Xzi sends, "that my friend gave me"
[12:57:10] @@Xzi sends, "now please leave me alone or ill post these logs for harrasement"
[12:57:13] @@You send, "you really think we're stupid don't you? lol" to Xzi
[12:57:19] @@You send, "plz post em " to Xzi
[12:58:09] @@You send, "just give me the platinum back and we'll be equal" to Xzi
[12:58:24] @@Xzi sends, "we're equal now"
[12:58:51] @@You send, "nope, we're not, or you give me money in alb pry, or you give it back here as final result of the transaction" to Xzi
[12:59:15] @@Xzi sends, "i would but i dont have it"
[12:59:17] @@Xzi sends, "sorry "
[12:59:34] @@Xzi sends, "if u need help leveling give me a msg"
[12:59:43] @@You send, "then either proton or xeqtre gives it back to me, your other chars" to Xzi
[13:00:06] @@Xzi sends, "its not on any of my chars"
[13:00:15] @@You send, "then where did the money go to?" to Xzi
[13:00:26] @@Xzi sends, "i told u yesturday"
[13:00:31] @@Xzi sends, "i gave it to a l1"
[13:00:38] @@You send, "why would you do that?" to Xzi
[13:00:51] @@Xzi sends, "to help him?"
[13:01:06] @@You send, "you can give less money then 1 platinum to him..." to Xzi
[13:01:15] @@Xzi sends, "yep"
[13:01:30] @@Xzi sends, "u can earn it again"
[13:01:31] @@Xzi sends, ""
[13:01:32] @@You send, "you actually still remember what you did yesterday with the moneY?" to Xzi
[13:01:33] Your character has been saved.
[13:01:43] @@You send, "what do i have to do to get it back then?" to Xzi
[13:01:59] @@Xzi sends, "plevel my char to 40"
[13:02:28] @@You send, "so why would i believe you now? you would do the same trick as yesterday...." to Xzi
[13:02:30] @@Xzi sends, "and tell everyone that what u said wasnt true"
[13:02:42] @@Xzi sends, "ill give u 500 before 500 after"
[13:03:10] @@You send, "i'm willing to accept 500 now..." to Xzi
[13:03:24] @@Xzi sends, "and if u do indeed plevel me"
[13:03:27] @@Xzi sends, "then u get the rest"
[13:03:44] @@You send, "i don't think that's gonna happen mate..." to Xzi
[13:03:48] @@Xzi sends, "and u call off the level 50's"
[13:03:51] @@You send, "i don't believe you" to Xzi
[13:04:01] @@Xzi sends, "why would i lose 500g"
[13:04:05] @@Xzi sends, "for no reason"
[13:04:45] @@Xzi sends, "but u dont know all my chars"
[13:04:55] @@Xzi sends, "and u dont know my main"
[13:04:58] @@You send, "wouldn't it be nice that you just gave it all back to me..." to Xzi
[13:05:00] @@Xzi sends, "so they dont bother me"
[13:05:09] @@Xzi sends, "no it's too late for that"
[13:05:13] @@Xzi sends, "mud sticks"
[13:05:20] @@You send, "i know you got xeqtre, photon , xzi and electron" to Xzi
[13:05:25] @@Xzi sends, "you've damaged my rep"
[13:05:27] @@Xzi sends, "no"
[13:05:31] @@Xzi sends, "electron isnt mine"
[13:05:35] @@You send, "you damaged my money" to Xzi
[13:05:43] @@Xzi sends, "rep is priceless"
[13:05:49] @@Xzi sends, "money can be replaced"
[13:05:56] @@Xzi sends, "so either"
[13:05:59] @@Xzi sends, "u call them off"
[13:06:07] @@Xzi sends, "or u dont get shit"
[13:06:25] @@You send, "I'm not calling them off...not untill i get my platinum back, i don't care about your reputation" to Xzi
[13:06:58] @@Xzi sends, "until u call them off u get nothing"
[13:07:33] @@You send, "so what are you going to do with the money anyway?" to Xzi
[13:08:13] @@Xzi sends, "erm"
[13:08:19] @@Xzi sends, "give some to my mates"
[13:08:23] @@Xzi sends, "im not selfish"
[13:08:52] @@You send, "so you even got mates on this server? they all like you then?" to Xzi
[13:09:04] @@Xzi sends, "im a nice guy"
[13:09:09] @@Xzi sends, "admit u liked me"
[13:09:19] @@You send, "i liked you in the beginning yes" to Xzi
[13:09:25] @@Xzi sends, "well then :_)"
[13:09:31] @@You send, "but that was before you ripped me off " to Xzi
[13:09:45] @@You send, "now i just want my 1 platinum back as part of the deal" to Xzi
[13:10:16] @@You send, "or don't you remember anymore you told me that you had chars on pry alb? a lev 47 minstrel and 50 armsman?" to Xzi
[13:10:40] @@Xzi sends, "all i want"
[13:10:43] @@Xzi sends, "is"
[13:11:30] 1) Xzi the Level 10 Eldritch in Lough Derg
[13:12:00] @@Xzi sends, "u can have 500g"
[13:12:01] @@You send, "so why did you tell me in the first place you had a char on pry alb?" to Xzi
[13:12:04] @@Xzi sends, "and u plevel me"
[13:12:10] @@Xzi sends, "we'll make a guild"
[13:12:15] @@Xzi sends, "that'll get my rep back"
[13:12:19] @@Xzi sends, "then u can have the rest"
[13:12:21] @@You send, "so why did you tell me in the first place you had a char on pry alb?" to Xzi
[13:12:30] @@Xzi sends, "i didnt"
[13:12:43] @@You send, "why did you say so yesterday then?" to Xzi
[13:12:55] @@Xzi sends, "i didnt"
[13:12:59] @@Xzi sends, "anyway"
[13:13:03] @@Xzi sends, "we make a guild"
[13:13:20] @@Xzi sends, "and u call off the level 50's"
[13:13:48] @@You send, "i don't think your in a posistion to tell me anything....all we ask from you is give me back my money as part of the deal" to Xzi
[13:14:44] @@Xzi sends, "no it wont stop there"
[13:14:47] @@You send, "why won't you simply do that?" to Xzi
[13:14:59] @@Xzi sends, "mud sticks"
[13:15:46] @@Xzi sends, "u can reearn it"
[13:15:50] @@Xzi sends, "you're just being greedy "
[13:16:02] @@You send, "no, i'm not powerleveling you" to Xzi
[13:16:17] @@You send, "you won't find anyone with level 50 to do so anyway" to Xzi
[13:16:30] @@You send, "anyway, i'm loggin now" to Xzi
[13:16:52] You will quit after sitting for 20 seconds. Type '/stand' or move if you don't want to quit.
[13:16:56] You will quit in 15 seconds.
[13:17:01] You will quit in 10 seconds.

*** Chat Log Closed: Tue Oct 08 13:17:05 2002


Happy reading

 

[oblivion_6]

jez that guys a lamo

I know he isnt electron although hes also a pain in the a$$

Ive spotted the two of them together at the walking rocks using the scenery to cheat lol

but heay even i sometimes give it a go if im bored

I got ripped of in my last game, lineage and as a result i dont trust no one with anything unless losing it isnt a big deal

 

[Alrindel]

You send, "what do i have to do to get it back then?" to Xzi
Xzi sends, "plevel my char to 40"

Yeah, that's Photon all right.

Electron is not the same person, they both joined Silent Death at the same time, and Electron is still in the guild. I think they are friends IRL, and I am going to have a chat with Electron about this whole mess.

 

[MalokOfAxiom]

Might be an idea, Alrindel, if you direct this character & his friend here, so that they may have the opportunity to read what is going on.

In Xzi's case, perhaps it would be stretching it a bit to see if he has the ball's to reply to what is being recounted against him here...

Of that, I doubt..

Suffice to say, I will try to have another little chat with him later tonight.. Perhaps other's might try the same..?? Maybe he will finally relent, and do the decent thing..

 

[Noche]

This guy is worse than Karam

 

[hiane]

Hey guys

I got a simple solution for you.

As a Druid and a rezz machine for Hibernia. I would ask all Rezzers not to rezz this guy or his alts until this is sorted to the satisfaction of Loco.

I for 1 will not ress his ass ever.

The power is in the healing


Hiane Lvl 4* Druid

 

[Eliz]

Dont you just wanna beat that little prick up? I know I do...

Hope you get your money back Loco. If you need a few gold on Alb/Pry, just send me a /tell.

 

[old.CrazyMuppet]

Very sorry to hear you lost your plat.

But i'm glad to see Hibernia has lamers too...

When i need to trust someone with items or cash it'll be someone with a good reputation and standing in the realm, or a friend.

You just need to find the person that values his characters reputation more than the items or gold you want to trade.

I'll be sure to put extra effort in killing Xzi if i ever see him in the frontier

 

[Danya]

Any idea if he does have Alb/Pryd chars? I'd like to know their names if so, so I can keep an eye open.

 

[Keri]

Loconian, I was saddened when you told me about this in Ardee last night. Now having read all this, it is far worse than you made it sound last night. My bard will not res this guy or his alts. (I am SO tempted to help him get killed too, but 2 wrongs doesn't make a right) If my alts were in Alb, I would gladly help you out.

oblivion .. I left Lineage when it started to get really bad. I remember the first time a Ring of Teleportation was stolen on Phoenix .. things went rapidly downhill after that. Lineage II looks damned good though.

 

[heraldi]

Re: scam alert

So sorry to read about your ordeal.

Shame on him to do such a thing.

I agree with the rest of you, I will try to remember his name and not to rez him or his chars.

Thanks for warning. I do hope Goa kicks him out.

 

[SaPPhIREcat]

Loco can see why u direct me to this forum. Wow a long thread!

Hey not everyone as honest as me you know? LOL (JK)..now don't ever go around trusting people you don't know anymore.

Next time pass your money to me <BG>

Another alternative to get back your 1P....lvl up your alt and go to the dreadful and yucky fins

Have you complain to Mythic yet about this guy?

 

[Maliz-]

Gah. The world is full of loosers...

Hope you get this sorted out. My guild have been notified, and encouraged to to get ressed and/or helped in any way.

Keri: (I am SO tempted to help him get killed too, but 2 wrongs doesn't make a right)

Me too, but I agree. lets just give him hell leveling

 

[Arakiel]

trust in realm

hey guys ive had an idea

maybe to increase or in this case regain good trust in hibernia i reckon the guilds should have a talk about making some sort of pact of sorts >

take for instance ur in a guild and you wanna transfer money etc > you transfer with anyone whos in said guild pact < , the pact being that all guilds in it are gonne be honest and fair and if the individual does do the bad < like Photon > the guilds will expell him and make up the lost cash , this way you know u can have some sort of insurance > it dosent have to limit to one realm either , you can do it inter servers or something.


i mean its just an idea and you are free to pick at it as you wish but it could work if someone more intellegent than me draws up a good plan

and as for you loconian , im sorry to hear this mate and i donate 100 gold to restoring your plat lost mate < just tell me where to put it

 

[Dodgy Geeza]

Sorry to hear about this Loco =(
I'm almost as bad - trusting people after playing online with them for a few hours.
He's an opportunist thief - and I doubt very much if he has the integrity to look at what he's done and think it was wrong.
Best thing we can do is not help him...he's obviously the kind of sad ass player who can't be bothered to level himself.
Make sure that the whole of Hibernia knows that he and his alts cannot be trusted - and to not allow him in groups until this is sorted. Don't rez his ass when he's dead in Muires or wherever he is at lvl 10.
I think it would be a good idea to SPAM him with PM's whenever we can...find out what groups he's in and get the leader to kick him. He'll soon get pissed off playing DAOC if he gets no help - and realises this.
Good Luck with this Loco - and hope you get a resolve soon.

DG

AK Druid 4x