Savages works as intended :E

[Amellisan]

ouch.... 1600+ dmg? yiikes, best i ever done was 690 (inc crits on both weapons) on a healer

 

[Healer McHeal]

savages hit so much harder then bms, its sick tbh

 

[Balbor]

Ain't that because when you raise your str/dex or whatever effects your weapondmg you raise both WS and dmg...

If I would have 1400 WS and 360str... would I hit harder if my WS somehow raised to 2100 but my str stayed at 360? ...

stuff that increases WS, such as increasing weapon spec and increasing Str and Dex stat will aslo increase your damage. However in order for the game engine to allow styles and abilities that increase your to-hit chance only you need a stat (probably WS) that can be effected to give that result only.

Im just guessing here though

 

[Balbor]

heres a way to nerf savages that would help keep to there character, savages self harm themselves when they use there buffs, while a savage is using one of its buff they count as being diseased for healing purposes because the blood taken has been offered to there god and cannot be fully reclaimed while the god is fulfilling his part of the bargin.

 

[Shike]

heres a way to nerf savages that would help keep to there character, savages self harm themselves when they use there buffs, while a savage is using one of its buff they count as being diseased for healing purposes because the blood taken has been offered to there god and cannot be fully reclaimed while the god is fulfilling his part of the bargin.

they still outdamage all tanks in the game by pretty much tho, which is whats considered to be the problem for most i think.

would rather see em loose determination and be on same lvl as reaver/VW or loose access to DR. Yea yea, savages would cry over that I know.

 

[Driwen]

they still outdamage all tanks in the game by pretty much tho, which is whats considered to be the problem for most i think.

would rather see em loose determination and be on same lvl as reaver/VW or loose access to DR. Yea yea, savages would cry over that I know.

in frontiers you could do possibly do that, allthough mythic would probably rather remove self buffs than make them classed as hybrid.
Anyway savages without self buffs do less damage than other light tanks and with them do more that is the way its supposed to work. Off course the problem is that the penalty for activating the buffs should be significant, I think something like heals halfed might actually work.

 

[harebear]

not saying savages arent overpowerd or anything, but midgard is the melee realm so doesnt it make sence they have the strongest melee fighter?

 

[Sycho]

midgard is the melee realm so doesnt it make sence they have the strongest melee fighter?

And where does it say that exactly?^^

 

[Yussef]

Melee realm, Magic realm and Albion is meant to be what type realm?

Anyway Mids have the best PBAOE etc.

 

[Escape]

Alb is the SoS/BoF realm.... that's the best argument hibs/mids have atm but after Frontiers they'll have to think of another whine.

 

[remi]

Melee realm, Magic realm and Albion is meant to be what type realm?

Anyway Mids have the best PBAOE etc.

defensive realm, plate, spec AF, bof, sob etcetc...

 

[swords]

Alb is the rp cow realm. to feed Hib and Mid with their overpowered melle and casting characters

 

[Lakih]

Hib - magical realm
Mid - melee realm
alb - still mythics lovechild

What people forgot in this savage discussion is that the class is utterly boring to play Zerker is much more fun

oh and nerf [insert favorite hateobjekt of the month]

 

[Sycho]

What people forgot in this savage discussion is that the class is utterly boring to play Zerker is much more fun

Yeah i love my zerk most xD

Smack savages with 2h vendo in duels is quite entertaining xD

 

[Fadeh]

Albion = mythics lovechild??

eh? "ok"

 

[Sarnat]

Says the mid caster whos never been on the receiving end of a savage in proper RvR. >I< have never (or so rare that I didnt notice) been single hit by a savage playing a caster. This is a fairly small sample of course (hence its not really statistically significant), Im not RvRing 24/7 vs savages and I try my best to stay away from them oddly enough, but those figures are roughly accurate in my particular case based on quantitative data.
Not sure what kind of check you need to get but its you that needs one not me.
I'd love to be lying and have once lasted more than 1.5s to a single savage with some remote chance of getting healed.

I can pull better figures out of my arse. And no, I dont play savage or get hit by them but I've been in groups with them, PvE and RvR.

Not saying savages aren't overpowered, just saying your 50% quad 40% triple rate is about as good estimate as savages not being overpowered.

 

[Balbor]

Alb is the SoS/BoF realm.... that's the best argument hibs/mids have atm but after Frontiers they'll have to think of another whine.

What will people say after NF comes out? Probably moan that Mincers are the greatest class of all time etc etc.

 

[Elendar]

actually, we only have one bodyguard =) And zerach and you sure as hell ain't assisting, you most of the time attack our grappling warden

poor tare, still hasn't worked out how to play, so has to prettend other people suck so his grp don't notice him

 

[Ctuchik]

And where does it say that exactly?^^

read up on the game if Mythic havent deleted that statement its there somwhere.. cba to look it up tho but somwhere it says that midgard is the melee realm.. as hibernia is supposed to be the magic realm and Albion is supposed to be somwhere in between

 

[Fadeh]

So in between means crap magic and crap melee. Ok.

 

[Tomtefan]

I tested this week with my merc about how much str has effect on my damage, worked out 1 str=0.25% damage roughly.So with ToA overcap a pure tank/light tank can get 6% or so more damage with the 25 extra strength which is also 95-100ws.(except for a warrior? and this is also towards tanks who are using a str base weapon of course)

Tomte maybe that growth rate is wrong for wildcall, but it still outhits any anytime i seen in daoc, i think the savage i played capped under diamond slash with it but i am guessing around 0.80 or so.Never the less with the dps buff savage weapons become the equivalent of 21.5dps, then when they use this dps shout since their base damage rises so does their styled damage, exactly the same way melee damage from ToA items increase it.

That depends upon if you used the same spd greave as your weapon on the merc that used dia slash etc. You have to remember that savages dont get anything which could be called DWhaste. That depends on how item bonuses stack with their dpsshout... 10% style damage shouldn't give much more then about 4-5% more actual damage for a savage in the end so could add that as well.Could be something like this: (16.5 * 1.15 * 1.21) or (16.5*1.15) * 1.21 or (16.5*1.21) * 1.15. 16.5 = base dps of savages, 1.15 = 15% damage boost from toa stuff (10% melee, 10% style), 1.21 = The DPS shout they use.

And really... Wild call sucks major arse, impossible to do decent damage with it compared to the side chain

 

[Eyacua]

+470 style but he dosent reach 470 dmg, that means he hitting someone with completely crap armour..., also he is not using the haste, so the DPS buffs make this kind of uber caps, btw, u wont get even close to this dmg in normal rvr, due to low WS, but yeah, hes overpowered beacause can hit a low lvl guy with low lvl armour for 1700 every 4.4 secs once in every 100 shots doing a quad with uber crits and tons of luck. .

nerf infils with 50 crit 50 thrust doing 1090 + 500 crit and u cant parry!
or SBs doing same 2h, cuz we all know everyone use to cap in rvr dont we?

 

[vintervargen]

battler proc = more ws

battler proc = more dmg

.

 

[Skilgannon]

read up on the game if Mythic havent deleted that statement its there somwhere.. cba to look it up tho but somwhere it says that midgard is the melee realm.. as hibernia is supposed to be the magic realm and Albion is supposed to be somwhere in between

Get a clue!

Midgard was termed the melee realm because it had more melee char options available. Nothing else. They are not meant to do more damage.

 

[Yussef]

Seems the Celestius Greave is DD/Disease rather than DD/Snare.

 

[Eroa]

read up on the game if Mythic havent deleted that statement its there somwhere.. cba to look it up tho but somwhere it says that midgard is the melee realm.. as hibernia is supposed to be the magic realm and Albion is supposed to be somwhere in between

Was never stated by mythic, only something the players said by looking at the different realms.

 

[Ormorof]

am i the only one tired of savage whines that achieve absoloutly nothing?

 

[Bagloor]

am i the only one tired of savage whines that achieve absoloutly nothing?

nope...

 

[NetNifty]

well im tired of them not achieving anything

 

[emma]

battler proc = more ws

battler proc = more dmg

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Battler proc = useless tomorrow ;p

Been tested over 800+ swings.

Damage stayed within 5% of the damage without proc. All that increased was his hit rate which raised 13%.