RvR ruined...

[Manisch Depressiv]

Nice to have you back on Dyvet Manisch nice to have more albs whining

For you even 1 + 1 = 2 is whining. Don't overestimate the impact of your lame play style too much, it just makes people log and do something else. Stating some facts isn't whining.

 

[Tuthmes]

Adding/zerging and if met alone burning all they have and dying badly or legging it.

Obvious.

Might have something todo with the fact that you'd prolly be better off 1vs1 on a rejuv/enh cleric, then a ranger.

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

Might have something todo with the fact that you'd prolly be better off 1vs1 on a rejuv/enh cleric, then a ranger.

Aye, that's why all the rangers fail in the same way. Believe it or not, but there were actually hard to kill rangers on the cluster, even pre-patch.

But thanks for providing us with the ultimate truth to all MMOGs again: if I suck at something I bring friends or or run away and justify it with my bad class/equipment whatsoever.

 

[Tuthmes]

Aye, that's why all the rangers fail in the same way. Believe it or not, but there were actually hard to kill rangers on the cluster, even pre-patch.

But thanks for providing us with the ultimate truth to all MMOGs again: if I suck at something I bring friends or or run away and justify it with my bad class/equipment whatsoever.

Pre-patch, well no shit jimmy. The patch is the whole problem. Duel wield nerf vs shield, no pd anymore AND the pathfinding line is in the bowline now. Every so called hard to kill ranger either gave up or rerolled to full bow.
Trying to melee on a ranger atm is about as much fun as piercing your balls with a rusty stag.

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

Pre-patch, well no shit jimmy. The patch is the whole problem. Duel wield nerf vs shield, no pd anymore AND the pathfinding line is in the bowline now. Every so called hard to kill ranger either gave up or rerolled to full bow.
Trying to melee on a ranger atm is about as much fun as piercing your balls with a rusty stag.

I didn't say anything about melee on a ranger. Nor do I have a shield on my Infiltrator, nor would PD protect a Ranger from LWs in the first pace.

But I understand your point: a Ranger 5-6 RRs higher than his enemies should run around with MoS5 and ultra high bow damage to add only, because bow or the rest of his combined abilities will never win him a fight solo against someone else.

The irony...

 

[Soulja_IA_]

Aye, that's why all the rangers fail in the same way. Believe it or not, but there were actually hard to kill rangers on the cluster, even pre-patch.

But thanks for providing us with the ultimate truth to all MMOGs again: if I suck at something I bring friends or or run away and justify it with my bad class/equipment whatsoever.

K Manisch for you information mate try reading Patch notes that concerned Rangers.

Rangers lost the Celtic dual against tanks because of the Sheild styles tanks got rendering a Mellee ranger bloody useless.

The skills that Ranger got in they spec line which was Pathfinding got taken out and got put into the Bow skills which then gave Mid Hunters Alb Scouts even more utility then Ranger.

So to play a Ranger against a tank now would be pointless tbh unless you grouped up against a tank.

You should try a Ranger Manisch maybe after playing 1 you won't moan so much about a Rangers play style.

Then again Manisch you so Elite on everything you probably say that Rangers are most OP of all the Range classes rofl.

Soulja

 

[Tuthmes]

I didn't say anything about melee on a ranger. Nor do I have a shield on my Infiltrator, nor would PD protect a Ranger from LWs in the first pace.

But I understand your point: a Ranger 5-6 RRs higher than his enemies should run around with MoS5 and ultra high bow damage to add only, because bow or the rest of his combined abilities will never win him a fight solo against someone else.

The irony...

Name me one class vs which a ranger should win with his combined ability's.

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

pointless bullshit snipped

I didn't say anything about shield tanks, I don't expect any class to win over shield tanks.

If you feel externally controlled by the might of some nerf, then you're just a lemming, but there is no news in that to me.

A high RR bow Ranger has good ranged damage and the toys to keep the range, you might want to try that out.

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

Name me one class vs which a ranger should win with his combined ability's.

A properly played Ranger eats my Infiltrator (shoots me for 50% of my HPs from stealth, then I have to run towards him to get FZ'ed or leg it), gives my Flex Heretic a hard time and I think it kills any of my non MoC-casters too. Versus my Armsman & Merc a Ranger can get away easily or just stays stealthed.

That's not the point though, even if it would be the worst solo class one could play something different or leave the solo guy already fighting 1-2 others alone.

 

[Zerubiel Propane]

Aww, rvr is ruined again.

 

[Soulja_IA_]

Pointless Moaning BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH I RESUBSCRIBED BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH i MOAN A LOT BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH ELITE BASATRD I AM BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH I AM A BORING BASTARD BLAH BLAH BLAH

I agree m8

Soulja

 

[- English -]

Aww, rvr is ruined again.

the main irvr zone is untouched ;x

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

I agree m8

Soulja

Has nothing with being elite when meeting you and making some observations, nor with moaning.

You said yourself that you zerg and add, you didn't find an argument why exactly the first time when saying the Albs make you do it and now you failed a 2nd time when saying your class makes you do it. Just live up to it.

 

[Aepax]

Eul

Eul, you hit like a truck man, ouch, dont think i even got 1 hit in. Just curious why your flaming bold t1 though as we can't port, hibs took hurb so we no longer have link to either bold nor beno. hope 1 day i'll be able to kill you

 

[kiliarien]

I dont try to remember every brehon i encounter so no i dont remember his name, the only 2 i remembered was darkshroud and yours. And as for backing up not everyone reads FH (cleric and armsman) so get a clue before you start calling me a liar.

So essentially - you can't back up your bullshit. Neither myself nor Darkshroud remember any vamp in our group that evening, and as you've admitted you don't remember everything, mayhaps you're WRONG??

The original point still stands (which you conveniently ignored) - why were you flaming peoples' playstyles when the post of mine you quoted was just taking the mickey out of people for whining?? I see no relation between whining and playstyles. I have never admiteed to being a 'leet' I just play as I want.

And also with a less-than-clean reputation yourself bud, google the proverb 'people in glass houses shouldn't be throwing stones'.

On the upside - I like to thank all those involved in the running about last night - nice bit of rvr with some roaming.

 

[kiliarien]

A properly played Ranger eats my Infiltrator (shoots me for 50% of my HPs from stealth, then I have to run towards him to get FZ'ed or leg it), gives my Flex Heretic a hard time and I think it kills any of my non MoC-casters too. Versus my Armsman & Merc a Ranger can get away easily or just stays stealthed.

That's not the point though, even if it would be the worst solo class one could play something different or leave the solo guy already fighting 1-2 others alone.

I'm not sure if rangers are totally rubbish, but I would argue:

1) FZ'ing (if you have it) doesn't equal winning
3) ARE there any non-moc casters??
2) Getting away/re-stealthing doesn't equal winning either, being able to 'get away' is hardly a plus point, you want your frigging opponent dead

Trying to keep range on a ranger is somewhat more difficult than just FZ'ing and waiting (and that means you get one fight every 15 mins). As I said, I don't think they're totally useless but I'll take the slam on a scout or pet on a hunter over what rangers are like now they don't cut the mustard in melee.

 

[Tuthmes]

A properly played Ranger eats my Infiltrator (shoots me for 50% of my HPs from stealth, then I have to run towards him to get FZ'ed or leg it), gives my Flex Heretic a hard time and I think it kills any of my non MoC-casters too. Versus my Armsman & Merc a Ranger can get away easily or just stays stealthed.

That's not the point though, even if it would be the worst solo class one could play something different or leave the solo guy already fighting 1-2 others alone.

If fz'd on your infil, use a dd charge otw back and maybe use engage on your tic? Though 50% health would require MoS5 (vs an infil) methinks and when it comes to melee, well nevermind really...
And how the fk is a ranger suppose to get awah from an arms (slam, snare, x-bow?) or a (charge?) merc, leave alone to kill one.

And about adding, i recall a certain arms adding on an 8vs8 not long ago. Not that it matters really.

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

If fz'd on your infil, use a dd charge otw back and maybe use engage on your tic? Though 50% health would require MoS5 (vs an infil) methinks and when it comes to melee, well nevermind really...
And how the fk is a ranger suppose to get awah from an arms (slam, snare, x-bow?) or a (charge?) merc, leave alone to kill one.

And about adding, i recall a certain arms adding on an 8vs8 not long ago. Not that it matters really.

Yeah, That guy had MoS5. That short stun/root is enough for a Ranger to get away from my Armsman, though as I said, Merc and Arms are a different league.

I joined in yesterday when you fought CM and wasn't too happy about it, sorry, will not happen again.

 

[Mageslayer]

Eul, you hit like a truck man, ouch, dont think i even got 1 hit in. Just curious why your flaming bold t1 though as we can't port, hibs took hurb so we no longer have link to either bold nor beno. hope 1 day i'll be able to kill you

after 2h without any encounter i just wanted to smoke out some albs nothing personal

 

[Lethul]

If fz'd on your infil, use a dd charge otw back and maybe use engage on your tic? Though 50% health would require MoS5 (vs an infil) methinks and when it comes to melee, well nevermind really...
And how the fk is a ranger suppose to get awah from an arms (slam, snare, x-bow?) or a (charge?) merc, leave alone to kill one.

And about adding, i recall a certain arms adding on an 8vs8 not long ago. Not that it matters really.

Well I've only played scout. But as for starters don't let him get in to melee range ...

 

[Cromcruaich]

Erm, amoung all the game mechanics talk arnt the arguments just:


1) Rangers are now crap so i'll add to compete.
2) Rangers arnt so crap that you need to add to compete.

Tuth and Soulja are supporting 1, while Manisch is supporting 2?

Tuth is probably just arguing from the mechanics pov while Soul is out practicing it in game?

 

[Cromcruaich]

I'd say the majority of casters dont have moc. Though they all firewizzes

 

[Soulja_IA_]

I'd say the majority of casters dont have moc. Though they all firewizzes

Crom stole my Candy


Soulja

 

[Zerubiel Propane]

I'd say the majority of casters dont have moc. Though they all firewizzes

There might be many wizards.
But i wanna bet my right hand, that there's alot more archers.

 

[CorNokZ]

Doubt it.. Think I've seen 3-4archers since I returned and a hell of a lot more wizards, including myself

 

[Jupiter]

raaaaar............. my 2 cents my champ has wardenitis

 

[partyanimal]

There might be alot of siht in albion.
But i wanna bet my right hand, that there's alot more piS5.

there u go

 

[Triac]

I
If people want to continue to be negative, fair enough, but the action has still been reasonably good for the population, let's contiinue to have fun and let's all stop fucking whining and enjoy the game.

LOL why not admit that this has become a 2 realm game now, as hibs and mids stand side by side fighting all albs and not each other..... the time this is done perhaps we can move forward and forget the whining, cause then all ppl know where they stand.

 

[CorNokZ]

Last time I ran into some mids @ eras we got our arses kicked, so the 2 realm theory is something you can take to CS, because it's not something that happens on Dyvet

 

[Zerubiel Propane]

Well to prove everybody wrong.
Lets have irvr in hibland. :worthy: