Rvr druid nerf

liloe

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Phake said:
ofcuz im not talking about balance .. im not an idiot hehe :p .. though the fact that BBs dont work on classic was one of the "features" i liked .. nothing wrong with liking that is it?

sure there's nothing wrong with liking a feature, but imho bb's only have an impact on solo RvR...but NOT having bb's imbalances solo RvR strongly towards certain classes =)
 

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toxii said:
rofl

so stealthers and stealthzerg in general are allowed to steamroll you but at the same time you aren't allowed to buff shear them?
and thats griefing ?
You are allowed to do whatever you want as long as it's not against the rules. Doesnt mean its not griefing in my book.
toxii said:
so what is full shearing a wizard , including morph in a busy irvr zone by a full group of high realm rank hibs
or what is it when i permanently get fully buff sheared on scout when watching fights but still dont die ^^
Yes, thats griefing.
toxii said:
but of course its griefing bcos an rr11 ALB does it you fucking sad *****,
noone says a word about certain rr11 other casters/tanks adding on small scale rvr fights, or even fg fights

daoc is a game, you play it for fun, not for moral lessons
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I am not sure why you even bother to think that I have something against rr11 albs? If you think I am teaching moral lessons then im truly sorry. I was under the impression I werent trying to tell people if griefing is right or wrong within the rules of the game. It's up to the individual to think for themself if griefing is correct and what not, imo.

As you said, you play it for fun. Still you overreact (and call people fucking pric*) without even understand my point. Why do you even care if some random FH-troll thinks your bestest in-game mate is griefing? It's a game remember?
 

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Andrilyn said:
Not really no but like I said I expect them to attack me anyway when the chance is there and this thread will not matter one bit as they won't all of a sudden attack a FG with 3 stealthers, wish they would yet they probably wouldn't.
And when I run I deal with stealther adds and unless it's a FG stealthers it's just free RPs even if only 3-4 add, hench my thanks for the RPs Gamah comment.

So you grief all stealthers because the majority of them adds on your FG v FG fights, wich will just give you some free RPs. Just don't see the logic in that.

Andrilyn said:
That would be the 3ish stealthers with any decency left on the server, and 3 more stealther adds wouldn't matter one bit.

Well thing is, they wouldn't add, atleast I wouldn't. Because then I would be the same griefer as you.

Just don't understand you, you say you shear and disease all stealthers because they add on your FG v FG and at the same time you claim they give free RPs when they add unless they are in a fg (hello? how many FG stealthers are there out there?), isn't that a good thing?

And while we are at it, do never visible characters add on your FG v FG fights? Like casters, tanks and such? Do you always shear, disease and leave all solo casters and tanks at 5% when you see any? Discrimination I tell you! :C
 

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kivik said:
So you grief all stealthers because the majority of them adds on your FG v FG fights, wich will just give you some free RPs. Just don't see the logic in that.



Well thing is, they wouldn't add, atleast I wouldn't. Because then I would be the same griefer as you.

Just don't understand you, you say you shear and disease all stealthers because they add on your FG v FG and at the same time you claim they give free RPs when they add unless they are in a fg (hello? how many FG stealthers are there out there?), isn't that a good thing?

And while we are at it, do never visible characters add on your FG v FG fights? Like casters, tanks and such? Do you always shear, disease and leave all solo casters and tanks at 5% when you see any? Discrimination I tell you! :C

Depends tbh, andry likes to shear some visables as well if they the usual adding people. And casters in general all groups seem to KoS because they expect them to add anyways as they got speed and ranged attacks.
 

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kivik said:
So you grief all stealthers because the majority of them adds on your FG v FG fights, wich will just give you some free RPs. Just don't see the logic in that.

Nah I do that not really because they "add" on my FG v FG fights but mainly when they do when I am Duoing (cba soloing anymore on Cleric) and as a Duo when fighting another small group or even a FG (which is hard enough for a duo as it is) when you get added by stealthers when it's already 2v8 that's where I draw the line, in FG fights it's only an annoyance and nothing a "assist my target" won't fix in 1 or 2 sec.
And 9 out of the 10 fights I have in small groups get ruined by stealthers not by visables, ofc exceptions like Morrro and Sopan but those are a whole different story and I would shear and disease them aswell if I would get the chance :)

kivik said:
Well thing is, they wouldn't add, atleast I wouldn't. Because then I would be the same griefer as you.

Just don't understand you, you say you shear and disease all stealthers because they add on your FG v FG and at the same time you claim they give free RPs when they add unless they are in a fg (hello? how many FG stealthers are there out there?), isn't that a good thing?

And while we are at it, do never visible characters add on your FG v FG fights? Like casters, tanks and such? Do you always shear, disease and leave all solo casters and tanks at 5% when you see any? Discrimination I tell you! :C

It's because most "solo" stealthers and most people here on FH claim they want fair fights but as soon as they can leech their 3 RPs they will dive in no matter what, I am seriously not going to believe anyone never "added" or zerged or attacked someone that had no possible chance like a rr10-11 nuker/tank/stealther vs a rr1 support.
People try and justify their own adding or zerging by making up stupid rules like "well if you do it to this and that class then it's ok".

Why don't I shear visable solo'er like Gotmagi and Maeloch and so on? Well like I said before I do not dislike the class they are playing, if you would see a Warlock or Bainshee or Sorc and you are in a 3 person stealth group you would attack it just because you hate the class and same for me though I hate other classes than you yet I am the boogyman in your eyes while you do exactly the same.
 

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Andrilyn said:
if you would see a Warlock or Bainshee or Sorc and you are in a 3 person stealth group you would attack it just because you hate the class and same for me though I hate other classes than you yet I am the boogyman in your eyes while you do exactly the same.

I would never be in a stealth-group, never. Anyways I won't discuss this anymore, would just like to say. If you see Kivvik, spare the shearing for the zergers.
 

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You see kivik Andrilyn doesn't play to have challenging fair fights etc, he plays to have "fun" (aka griefing/updating your fh sig with your zerg-rps)
So don't waste your time arguing with a guy that never left any fg fights without adding and are in same "fg" as arumi xD
 

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Not all stealthers go around adding on fights, personally my Infil never adds or has added on a FG fight unless I was popped by BL abilities (used for the sole purpose of popping me and I can't get away, and I can't even remember the last time this happened). I am not saying this to prove anything to anyone; I find adding on FG fights to be stupid and unrewarding - high risk for little gain. I would rather keep my buffs and wait another 5 minutes tbh.
You really don't know this unless you have actively played a stealther, and I can assure you that I know for sure there are many more 'known' stealthers that think along these lines also.

If you are away from your group camping a bridge for example, unless you are obviously a support class - how is a stealther supposed to know you aren't solo (ie. attackable?) I am sure I have done this from time to time but I do not class it as 'adding' because it might be a mistake on both parts. As an Infil I am looking for killable people all the time; but at the same time I tend to eliminate any major risk situations, such as adding on FG fights. It's why I tend to get annoyed when a decent fight occurs after 30 minutes of waiting, only to get added on when I hoped I could get away with it. :p

Oh, and just because I play my Infil aimed towards 1v1 fights when I play him (not much recently), this does not mean that I am the special case (also please note I am not saying I am perfect!). I would probably agree with the idea that it tends to be the more known stealthers that don't add, especially the higher RR (solo) ones. But there are still exceptions to this rule. I can say that playing my Infil has helped me identify whom I like and dislike, if you have not done this I suggest you do so. Personally my Infil has never been buffsheared (apart from when having a nice 1v1 with a BM that lands ML9 and ML10 or a Valkyrie using it for giggles :(), maybe this is because I have just got lucky or maybe it is because I have a different playstyle on my Infil to your stereotyping. Nobody is perfect though and mistakes do happen, it's easier to keep your chin up than to bear a grudge.

As Kiwik was saying, don't stereotype all of the stealthers, many of them don't do what you are complaining about and don't deserve the 'griefing' from the buffshears; him being one of them :)
 

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