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[Gwadien]

Sorry @caLLous

Tesco croissants.

They make a fresh batch in the afternoon/evening, and being a primarily breakfast item they're not bought so they sell them the next morning.

I'm fairly sure that's a criminal offence in Frenchmanland.

I remember attempting to get one in France at like 11am and they were like non, we made them at 9am, they're are only good for le trash.

 

[caLLous]

Sorry @caLLous

Tesco croissants.

They make a fresh batch in the afternoon/evening, and being a primarily breakfast item they're not bought so they sell them the next morning.

I'm fairly sure that's a criminal offence in Frenchmanland.

I remember attempting to get one in France at like 11am and they were like non, we made them at 9am, they're are only good for le trash.

I think it's the same here tbh, especially in the supermarkets and the boulangerie chains. It's all produced, all day. Not sure about selling them the next morning though, that sounds skanky.

 

[Scouse]

British'll eat any old shit.

It's definitely a truism that a shitload of our eateries pump out chod that offends the sensibilities of our European friends. You can get good stuff, but it's harder to find here than abroad.

The o/h loves to eat out. I much prefer her cooking. Better ingredients.

 

[Overdriven]

Day 3 of waiting for the child to spawn.

Sigh.

Literally altering my work calendar daily "If I turn up there's no child, if I don't turn up I'll see you in 3 months". Makes my planning messy. If I can't do it in 7 hours I'm not doing it.

 

[Deebs]

<Scouse's public comment>
The o/h loves to eat out. I much prefer her cooking. Better ingredients.
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<Scouse's private thinking>
The o/h loves to eat out. I much prefer her cooking. Fucking cheaper FTW!!!!!!!!
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[Gwadien]

I think it's the same here tbh, especially in the supermarkets and the boulangerie chains. It's all produced, all day. Not sure about selling them the next morning though, that sounds skanky.

The thing is that a couple of years ago they didn't do it and they were mostly always out of stock - now they do this shit and they always seem to have plenty, they don't appear to understand why.

 

[Scouse]

Bit of both @Deebs - it's cheaper and if it's better at home too then it's a no-brainer.

I really resent eating out at restaurants that serve shitter than I get at home. What's the point of them? In blighty at least that's the majority of them.

 

[Deebs]

Bit of both @Deebs - it's cheaper and if it's better at home too then it's a no-brainer.

I really resent eating out at restaurants that serve shitter than I get at home. What's the point of them? In blighty at least that's the majority of them.

Cannot remember the last time I was in a restaurant. Like you prefer home cooking/BBQs.

 

[Scouse]

Fourteen 20mph roads in Newport could revert to 30mph

Newport council confirms its plans to increase 20mph speed limits on 14 roads in the county.

www.bbc.co.uk

wrong thing to do. Lacks balls.

And, of course, newport and wrexham. Where the knuckle draggers are prevelant and get fighty. I'd have ignored them and doubled down.

 

[Scouse]

Why dya think they should be raising them again @MYstIC G?

I love the 20mph. After a couple of months it felt normal, and it's much nicer to walk around places with slower moving traffic. (And if the accident stats are to be believed, significantly safer too.)

Really, it's the fact that it's quieter on the roads - less tyre noise. And people and cars act differently - pedestrians act in a much more confident manner and aren't cowed by the traffic any more. It's transformed the places I frequent as a pedestrian around here in a subtle but really important way.

 

[Tom]

People with poor spatial awareness who walk down the train isle with a rucksack on their back, swiping your face as they go past you. One cunt in the station almost knocked my phone out of my hand doing it.

 

[Gwadien]

People with poor spatial awareness who walk down the train isle with a rucksack on their back, swiping your face as they go past you. One cunt in the station almost knocked my phone out of my hand doing it.

Pssst you're meant to be convincing people public transport is a good thing

 

[MYstIC G]

Why dya think they should be raising them again @MYstIC G?

I love the 20mph. After a couple of months it felt normal, and it's much nicer to walk around places with slower moving traffic. (And if the accident stats are to be believed, significantly safer too.)

Really, it's the fact that it's quieter on the roads - less tyre noise. And people and cars act differently - pedestrians act in a much more confident manner and aren't cowed by the traffic any more. It's transformed the places I frequent as a pedestrian around here in a subtle but really important way.

Always going slower negates directly forcing manufacturers into making vehicles safer themselves. We're also taking the zero sum risk assessment approach of "just reduce or stop a thing and then it's no problem" which is basic and NIMBY

 

[Scouse]

Always going slower negates directly forcing manufacturers into making vehicles safer themselves. We're also taking the zero sum risk assessment approach of "just reduce or stop a thing and then it's no problem" which is basic and NIMBY

You can't make cars safer for kids at 30mph. You could coat them in 6 inches of foam and it wouldn't help much - it's the action of acceleration and decelleration at 30mph that is dangerous. At 20mph kids that get hit by cars will likely be just fine and dandy.

I live in a place with 20mph limits - in town centres and residential areas. It's not like it's changed everywhere. It simply doesn't make that much of a difference to motorists - and it makes a massive difference to pedestrians. And not just safety.

And, frankly, NIMBY? Absolutely - don't fucking drive quickly where loads of people are walking or kids are playing! People > Cars.

 

[Gwadien]

You can't make cars safer for kids at 30mph. You could coat them in 6 inches of foam and it wouldn't help much - it's the action of acceleration and decelleration at 30mph that is dangerous. At 20mph kids that get hit by cars will likely be just fine and dandy.

I live in a place with 20mph limits - in town centres and residential areas. It's not like it's changed everywhere. It simply doesn't make that much of a difference to motorists - and it makes a massive difference to pedestrians. And not just safety.

And, frankly, NIMBY? Absolutely - don't fucking drive quickly where loads of people are walking or kids are playing! People > Cars.

It'll increase traffic in built up areas and therefore cause more rage, therefore having more people making stupid decisions.

 

[Scouse]

It'll increase traffic in built up areas and therefore cause more rage, therefore having more people making stupid decisions.

Why would it increase traffic? Would more people get in their cars because they were so excited to drive at 20mph?

All it does is make the same amount of traffic temporarily drive a little bit slower through the 20mph zones, and thats it. Nothing else.

It's a palpably (and obviously) daft thing for you to say. And other than the knuckle draggers complaining at first, they've now mostly shut the fuck up and nobody cares any more around here.

(Apart from the children (and adults) who are still alive or uninjured. As borne out by the accident stats.)

 

[Embattle]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1v9kRhroIYs

 

[Scouse]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1v9kRhroIYs

Yeah. It'd be nice if all kids acted perfectly all the fucking time wouldn't it?

But they don't. Maybe that means they deserve death? What do you think @Gwadien? I mean, you know I hate kids more than most people...

The 20mph accident stats shows that deaths and injuries have fallen quite dramatically. For practically zero noticable difference. Weird at first. Really weird. But now I don't notice at all, and would never go back.

Resistence is just car users - of which I am one - being selfish cunts IMO.

 

[Tom]

It'll increase traffic in built up areas and therefore cause more rage, therefore having more people making stupid decisions.

No, this is not true. Congestion is nearly always generated at junctions. This is why most modern junction designs include what's called "stacking space" - so a two lane road will, at a junction, sometimes become six lanes. It allows vehicles to get through the junction more easily, reducing congestion.

Congestion is not caused by low speeds. Hence why National Highways use variable limits on motorways. Lower speeds in some situations smooths traffic flow.

Ultimately, you have to ask yourself what's more important - your ability to do 30mph in a residential area filled with potential conflict, or an extra minute being added to your day because the local highways department decided that lives are more important than punctuality.

You also have to ask yourself if you'd rather walk and cycle in an area with lower average traffic speeds, or higher speeds. And while you mightn't want to walk or cycle, remember that a good 50% of people in that area won't have access to a car - and will be walking and cycling. Are you more important than them?

 

[Raven]

20 is plenty, in most built-up areas.
Equally, 90 is fine, on motorways.

 

[Scouse]

20 is plenty, in most built-up areas.
Equally, 90 is fine, on motorways.

This.

 

[DaGaffer]

The 20mph accident stats shows that deaths and injuries have fallen quite dramatically. For practically zero noticable difference. Weird at first. Really weird. But now I don't notice at all, and would never go back.

No they don't. At the moment they show a one year drop against a prior year that was unusually high and against the long-term trend (the rate had been dropping for several years before the 20mph limit). It's probably had an impact, but it's definitely not as big as it looks and is a partial factor. 3-5 years data before you can claim definitive evidence.

 

[Scouse]

No they don't. At the moment they show a one year drop against a prior year that was unusually high and against the long-term trend (the rate had been dropping for several years before the 20mph limit). It's probably had an impact, but it's definitely not as big as it looks and is a partial factor. 3-5 years data before you can claim definitive evidence.

Fair enough - I didn't caveat it (we've spoken before about it and did then) and don't disagree. That's how it should be. Time is definitive. But it's still looking very good in the stats and in the insurance data.

I was sceptical at first. But now I've lived in an area where 20mph is the norm even if it didn't save people I'd still be for it. It's so much nicer walking about.

 

[Scouse]

I'm annoyed by this making the news:

St Asaph bird nest halts clearance for fire training site

It is thought the birds could delay work by several weeks with the situation monitored daily.

www.bbc.co.uk

We should not fuck nature for "stuff". Especially since we've lost over 70% of our fauna in the last 55 years. It should be utterly uncontroversial.