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DaGaffer

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Doctor should be struck off for failing to ensure that consent was given by the legal guardian, rather than the grandmother tbpfh.

Fucking disgusting practice is male genital mutilation.

On the one hand, yes, he should definitely be censured. On the other, yes its technically mutilation and I don't agree with it on religious/cultural grounds, but the idea that the kid is traumatised is a load of bollocks, and I know this because my son had to get circumcised on medical grounds, and while there was a bit of discomfort, that's not the same as psychological trauma. Once again, people overstating things in the hope of sympathy, and being a cynic, payment.
 

Raven

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A mate of mine had to have it done later in life. Was hilarious.

However, all genital mutilation should be banned, except where there are medical reasons to do so. If the kid decides later in life they want it then fine.
 

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the idea that the kid is traumatised is a load of bollocks, and I know this because my son had to get circumcised on medical grounds
Medical grounds, fair enough. I can understand if there's reasons for it. But perhaps you need to revisit your first point - the older story sheds light:
"It looks like he's been half circumcised is the only way to describe it. There's half the skin, it's not all the way over.

"It swells up, it gets red and a little bit sore in places."

She has been given cream to apply to her son and told he may need further surgery when he is older.

"When he first started talking he did say a lot that it hurt," said the mother.

"Now he doesn't really say much because it draws attention to it and he's getting a bit more private."
Kid's cock hurts. May need more surgery when he's older. He's not complaining so much now as he's growing up.

That's traumatisation in my book. Doctor should be struck off for failing to ensure there was proper consent and the grandparents should be locked up for taking a kid to be mutilated.

I'm with @Raven - all genital mutilation should be banned. Later in life if you want to cut bits of your own body off then that's fine.
 

DaGaffer

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Medical grounds, fair enough. I can understand if there's reasons for it. But perhaps you need to revisit your first point - the older story sheds light:

Kid's cock hurts. May need more surgery when he's older. He's not complaining so much now as he's growing up.

That's traumatisation in my book. Doctor should be struck off for failing to ensure there was proper consent and the grandparents should be locked up for taking a kid to be mutilated.

I'm with @Raven - all genital mutilation should be banned. Later in life if you want to cut bits of your own body off then that's fine.

That's a different issue though. You were saying struck off because of consent issues, I'd suggest struck off because of incompetence. "Half circumcision" is physical damage.
 

DaGaffer

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True. Full circumsision is physical damage too tho. Unless medically needed it should be punishable by a long term in prison.

Yes, but it isn't in law or according to the GMC, but failing to get appropriate permission, and fucking the procedure up, are.
 

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Yes, but it isn't in law or according to the GMC, but failing to get appropriate permission, and fucking the procedure up, are.
All true.

It bleeding well should be in law tho. But then, if we can't even ban halal meat in this country how the feck are we supposed to protect children? Well, other than girls, who are utterly helpless, of course...
 

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All true.

It bleeding well should be in law tho. But then, if we can't even ban halal meat in this country how the feck are we supposed to protect children? Well, other than girls, who are utterly helpless, of course...

I agree in principle, but you have to be a bit careful about that. The harm from female circumcision is orders of magnitude worse than for males. Its understandable that the law progressed on that first. I do still think it should be illegal for boys, but its a false equivalence to compare it to full FGM.
 

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I agree in principle, but you have to be a bit careful about that. The harm from female circumcision is orders of magnitude worse than for males. Its understandable that the law progressed on that first. I do still think it should be illegal for boys, but its a false equivalence to compare it to full FGM.
I understand that it's not exactly equivalent but it's still harm, physical harm. And boys aren't getting the same due care and protection that girls get. I don't think we need to be "careful" about it at all - it's still genital mutilation of a defenceless minor.

Given all the furore we're currently having around "innapropriate sexual conduct" - not even illegal conduct in many cases - the fact that young male babies are having their genitals set upon with scalpels (or, occasionally, cut off by a Rabbi who then sucks the penis "clean"*) and people shrug and go "big deal" boils my piss.



*yes, leading to actual death. It should be getting called out for the (in this cock-in-rabbi's-mouth case) religious paedophilia and otherwise violent mutilation of children that it is.
 

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What's the fascination with fiddling kiddy-dicks/vags? It's nasty, wrong, and fucked up on too many levels. Sucking a bloodied and mutilated kiddy-penis clean, directly causing it's death, that 's gotta go on some top-list of most evil deeds. Fuck me. Jews cutting boy-dicks and christians jerking boy-dicks.. can't decide which is the worst.
 
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Gwadien

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What's the fascination with fiddling kiddy-dicks/vags? It's nasty, wrong, and fucked up on too many levels. Sucking a bloodied and mutilated kiddy-penis clean, directly causing it's death, that 's gotta go on some top-list of most evil deeds. Fuck me. Jews cutting boy-dicks and christians jerking boy-dicks.. can't decide which is the worst.

It's one of those things that was put into a religion very early on for medical purposes as a quick and easy fix, and then the religion just carried it.

Bit like halal meat.

There's a HUGE drive in education atm to stop Female Genital Mutilation, it's obviously got far more sinister purposes but I don't understand why Male Genital Mutilation is acceptable though.

There hasn't been a single court case on FGM though.
 

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It's one of those things that was put into a religion very early on for medical purposes as a quick and easy fix.
No, it was put in religion early on for anti-masturbation purposes. The primary reason is sexual, the same as for women, though not quite as debilitating for us as it is for them.

There's a reason why US porn is full of women who gob everywhere and have huge strings of spit hanging like washing lines. It's because blokes dicks evolved via the mechanism of natural selection (so there's a measurable advantage) to have foreskins.

The idea of having to grab a bottle of lube every time I wanted to wank my air-hardened less-sensitive glans is laughable. If someone tried to take mine from me now I'd, quite rightly IMO, try to kill them in the attempt.
 

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Have you considered a career in writing children’s short stories?
Don't be coy, you know that description turned you on. 75% of american men wank hard to exactly that ;)
 

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DIY - I think I am going to abandon it and just pay someone else to do it.
 

Raven

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I keep looking at my half-finished garden and thinking the same.

Our garden is great, proper old cottage garden, just weed it every now and again and cut it back once a year, foxgloves to "wild roses" all just turn up every year. But living in a 400 year old house where no wall is straight, no 2 windows are the same and the doors are all made to measure is a ball ache when things need doing and expensive to get someone else to do. The roof was 25k last year.
 

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