SPAM random annoying things

[fettoken]

Shit, people need to be more zen these Christmas days. Enjoy the cold, the darkness and meeting the people you have dear to you. Start to question all the need to´s and the need do´s imo!

 

[Raven]

Christmas is for seeing friends and family and getting smashed.

 

[CorNokZ]

Christmas is awesome! If you get your shopping done in a reasonable time it can even be quite joyful.

And this thing is on at 4pm on Christmas eve. Me and my older brother come to a complete stop and to watch it. We know it by heart from start till end, and laugh just as much about it as we did when we were kids


View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzL06_dzr_Y


Oh, and all the food! And drinking with mates after the dinner and pressies wishing everyone a merry Christmas. Best day ever!

If you don't like Christmas, you are doing it wrong mates.

 

[rynnor]

If you don't like Christmas, you are doing it wrong mates.

Give it 20 years and come back to me on that one

 

[CorNokZ]

My family enjoys Christmas. No fighting, lots of tradition, great food and a lotta love. Dunno what's not to like?

 

[dysfunction]

My family enjoys Christmas. No fighting, lots of tradition, great food and a lotta love. Dunno what's not to like?

Same here. I get on extremely well with my in laws. They are great fun.

I don't enjoy Christmas shopping but my wife tends to do most of that for me!

 

[Poag]

Tell me. You did get out and ask the driver to move his lorry, didn't you?

I, the transit driver infront of me, and the half dozen people behind me all voiced our opinions at his parking.

his response...through thick slavish accent


"I am looking for house"

 

[rynnor]

I, the transit driver infront of me, and the half dozen people behind me all voiced our opinions at his parking.

his response...through thick slavish accent


"I am looking for house"

Strictly speaking he is comitting an offence by obstructing the highway - could try plod on the non-emergency number - it sounds petty but if there was an emergency vehicle trying to get through that way it could put lives at risk.

 

[old.Tohtori]

One one hand the forum is; F*ck off with your crimbo lights and shops with jingles it's not even december yet!

On the other; Christmas christmas christmas! Yeeei! November already! Christmas!

 

[Jeros]

I hate the vast marjority of people on this fucking estate, druggies, alcos and other assorted neddery.

The immigrants however don't cause as much fuss or noise of course.

They have work in the morning.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Oh great, can't comment on youtube now without using G+ etc, though doesn't matter becuse the new comment section is...amusing. Good job google

 

[Raven]

I like the advert that you have to skip after 4 seconds more. What is the fucking point? Seriously marketing people, do you serve any function at all?

I wonder how much that will generate in the great marketing circle jerk yet generate zero revenue.

 

[old.Tohtori]

I don't mind it that much, but i do keep ads on for the youtubers i watch. Keeps them in business.

So while it IS a circlejerk of some kind, at least it can be skipped and generates money for tubers.

 

[Raven]

Unskippable adverts on Sky Go.

Back to torrents I go.

 

[DaGaffer]

I like the advert that you have to skip after 4 seconds more. What is the fucking point? Seriously marketing people, do you serve any function at all?

I wonder how much that will generate in the great marketing circle jerk yet generate zero revenue.

It works. CTRs on Youtube ads are some of the best out there.

 

[Cadelin]

It works. CTRs on Youtube ads are some of the best out there.

Do you get charged if the user skips the ad after 5 seconds? Some of those adds haven't actually shown the product they are advertising in the 5 seconds you can't skip. There are some adverts I see and I literally have no idea what they are for. For those ads I have to agree with Raven. Others at least mention the product so I can see that is certainly raising brand awareness even if I don't see the whole advert.

 

[dysfunction]

I just look at something else in another browser tab and then click back to check if I can skip the advert so they are completely wasted on me.

 

[Edmond]

I just look at something else in another browser tab and then click back to check if I can skip the advert so they are completely wasted on me.

I make a point of hitting the mute button and going somewhwere else (usually here) until i can go back and watch what i clicked on if i can't skip it

 

[Raven]

Do you get charged if the user skips the ad after 5 seconds? Some of those adds haven't actually shown the product they are advertising in the 5 seconds you can't skip. There are some adverts I see and I literally have no idea what they are for. For those ads I have to agree with Raven. Others at least mention the product so I can see that is certainly raising brand awareness even if I don't see the whole advert.

It doesn't matter in advertising. It's an industry built on bullshit. Complete waste of time like most adverts. A lot of things are built on ad revenue now, Facebook, Google, Twitter...next big bubble to burst when they get found out?

 

[Lamp]

Vladimir Putin.
The guy's a 4-star berk.

 

[MYstIC G]

I make a point of hitting the mute button and going somewhwere else (usually here) until i can go back and watch what i clicked on if i can't skip it

Why bother when Adblock plus just kills them completely?

 

[Edmond]

Why bother when Adblock plus just kills them completely?

Ok, i just installed adblock plus.

It ran itself and didnt ask me to activate anything, there is no icon anywhere to say it running although it is showing in my program list in the control panel

I even watched their little video on the site too

1st vid in youtube i clicked on and got a 30 second Argos ad that i couldn't skip

 

[DaGaffer]

It doesn't matter in advertising. It's an industry built on bullshit. Complete waste of time like most adverts. A lot of things are built on ad revenue now, Facebook, Google, Twitter...next big bubble to burst when they get found out?

You have no fucking idea what you're talking about.

Do you get charged if the user skips the ad after 5 seconds? Some of those adds haven't actually shown the product they are advertising in the 5 seconds you can't skip. There are some adverts I see and I literally have no idea what they are for. For those ads I have to agree with Raven. Others at least mention the product so I can see that is certainly raising brand awareness even if I don't see the whole advert.

No you don't. But your missing the point anyway; it doesn't matter if you don't see the ad; it only matters if an acceptable (and usually very small) percentage of people see it and subsequently click through to the call to action (if there is one). The reason why its not a "complete waste of time" is because you build your advertising spend around a return on investment model that's completely measurable; in fact pay per click is one of the few advertising mediums that isn't a complete waste of time because you can understand exactly what you're getting for your money, which is why Google employees live in solid gold houses and drive rocket cars. (NB. The case for Facebook advertising is much less convincing).

 

[Bigmac]

Ok, i just installed adblock plus.

It ran itself and didnt ask me to activate anything, there is no icon anywhere to say it running although it is showing in my program list in the control panel

I even watched their little video on the site too

1st vid in youtube i clicked on and got a 30 second Argos ad that i couldn't skip

I'm running Adblock and Google chrome and it's blocked every ad it comes across including the ones on YouTube. There should be a icon in the top right corner, a red octagon with a white hand in the middle to show that its working.

 

[Edmond]

Running IE9 and can't see anything, I expected something in the toolbar at least that I can turn on and off?

And yes it did install the IE version

I'll try again later

 

[Edmond]

Sorted it, i had it disabled in IE add-ons. It must do that by default?

 

[Raven]

You have no fucking idea what you're talking about.



No you don't. But your missing the point anyway; it doesn't matter if you don't see the ad; it only matters if an acceptable (and usually very small) percentage of people see it and subsequently click through to the call to action (if there is one). The reason why its not a "complete waste of time" is because you build your advertising spend around a return on investment model that's completely measurable; in fact pay per click is one of the few advertising mediums that isn't a complete waste of time because you can understand exactly what you're getting for your money, which is why Google employees live in solid gold houses and drive rocket cars. (NB. The case for Facebook advertising is much less convincing).

http://customercommons.org/2013/10/12/beyond-the-advertising-bubble/
http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2009/03/23/after-the-advertising-bubble-bursts/
http://www.businessinsider.com/here-is-the-evidence-that-mobile-advertising-is-in-a-bubble-2012-8

It is a big'ol waste of time in the long run. Advertising and the cost of that advertising just doesn't stack up against actual profit for the companies peddling their wares, it doesn't even make profit directly for the advertisers either, just revenue. The problem is that unless you have advert blockers you are faced with a deluge of adverts for shit you have no interest in whatsoever, any adverts that may interest you and therefore lead to tangible profits for the organisation selling the product are drowned in the dirge, people become immune to them and in many cases seek ways to avoid them, ad blockers, paid for services etc.

Sure, people click ads but that doesn't mean they are buying the product and certainly not buying the product as a result of the advert. As for user data farmed by the likes of Facebook and Twitter is more often than not inaccurate to the point of being useless even if it is accurate it is not being used properly.

As a little experiment I turned off my ad blocker and went to IGN (11 adverts on the page according to Ad blocker, though I could only see a few)

Big banner ad (and an intrusive video, which annoyed me) at the top for Gravity, fair enough...I want to see it but I already know about it and plan on seeing it next weekend...so why do I need to see an ad for it, especially one that pisses me off by blocking the website I am trying to look at.

Another small ad at the side for Gravity, again...why?

Amazon, latest game deals advert. Digital media on physical disks? No thanks I have bought 1 game on disk in 5 years...why do I need to know about that?

An ad at the bottom for Call of Duty branded console headset. I have zero interest in CoD, let alone some cheap branded rubbish...why do I need to know about that?

Bit of a bad example so I went looking at other, more generic websites

Local rag. Chronicle and Echo.

Big banner ad at the top for Beacon Bingo. Unfortunately I am neither in my 70s or female.

Large advert for a wedding fayre. Sorry, married 11 years and even then I had virtually no interest in the crap that went with the wedding.

Small advert for 50% off lunch at some random pub chain. Marginally interested but I doubt I would bother.

Small advert for BT vision...I already have BT internet and phone, I didn't get vision because its just plain old not as good as sky

Small advert for some house scamming website (webuyanypit or some rubbish)

A banner ad for a DIY shop that also sells beer making equipment. OK, I have a small interest in brewing, probably 3-4 barrels a year but I get any equipment from a proper online beer shop, not somewhere that sells nails and bits of wood.

Another bingo advert, see above.

All in, utterly pointless and in some cases intrusive advertising that didn't generate any income for the companies being advertised...whether the ad companies made any money I don't know, I can't see how.

As for the original random annoying thing, Youtube adverts, 4 seconds is not enough to get the message across, all you are looking at is the countdown on the skip ad button. If people were forced to watch it for longer or for the full duration it would just annoy them and make the advertisement even more pointless.

I get that stuff needs to be advertised and I get that if done properly it is effective but in it's current form, internet advertising is going to fall on it's arse, hard.

 

[Cadelin]

No you don't. But your missing the point anyway; it doesn't matter if you don't see the ad; it only matters if an acceptable (and usually very small) percentage of people see it and subsequently click through to the call to action (if there is one). The reason why its not a "complete waste of time" is because you build your advertising spend around a return on investment model that's completely measurable; in fact pay per click is one of the few advertising mediums that isn't a complete waste of time because you can understand exactly what you're getting for your money, which is why Google employees live in solid gold houses and drive rocket cars. (NB. The case for Facebook advertising is much less convincing).

No, you are missing the point. I am not arguing about Google's marketing strategy, I can see they are an extremely successful company.

I am simply saying that a 5 second clip of an advert that doesn't even mention what the product is, is a complete waste of time. It does also make me feel that very few advertising agencies actually know what they are doing. For every amazing advert that makes me want a product there are normally 10 times as many that are rubbish. In these ways I agree with Raven's sentiments, this is the Random annoying things thread after all.

 

[CorNokZ]

Fucking huge walls of text when you check up on a thread. I simply can't be bothered in the morning

 

[MYstIC G]

Ok, i just installed adblock plus.

It ran itself and didnt ask me to activate anything, there is no icon anywhere to say it running although it is showing in my program list in the control panel

I even watched their little video on the site too

1st vid in youtube i clicked on and got a 30 second Argos ad that i couldn't skip

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