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Hestetun

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Originally posted by Lomald Umilinn
Note: I DID NEVER USE RADAR WHILE PLAYING WITH Lomald. SO PLEASE STOP TELLING HIM IN-GAME TO STOP CHEATING, FLAME ME NOT THE ONE PLAYING HIM RIGHT NOW! AS HE DIDN'T USE IT!!!

Here is what you can get, name and shame, but then again maybe i'll get flamed .. the only way you actually can get the information i've obtained is by .. cheating yourself with radar.

Hib guilds:
Llaw Arian (different drivers) WHO ? u got none.
Celtic Fist (different drivers) wont belive it
Dem Hibbies (sheph) sheph aint the driver!

Mid Guilds:
Nolby Pride (Different drivers, had hard to find any specific one... not whole guild, just a few in their groups who givs radar info)
Jack Herer (Different drivers, also hard to find any specific one)

Soloers:
Zarko (Hero)
Sheph (Bard) (Hunts around apk going after lonely/low targets near graveyards at rocket speed, baited him myself so..tough luck)
Mercuria (Bard)


During my 1½ month using radar these are a few of those i can remember, mainly becuase these were obvious and actively playing.

I have suspicions thoughts about albion players of course, it would be wrong of me to meantion them , yet, as they aren't even FAR as obvious as those players/guilds.

In albion i noted Minstrels, Sorcerers, Cabalists that were suspicios, 2 guilds of which i have thought of but need more time to be sure. When i know, i'll meantion them as well.

I have played in Alb/exc, Mid/Exc, Hib/Exc so i have seen it from all different angles, been in the guilds that used them. So at least I am sure of what im saying, however there is *NO WAY* to proov this other then let GOA handle my reports.

So if you are going to flame me, please do so. At least i've used it to discover who are using it against us, and that was pretty obvious before as well, wasn't it?

Note: VGN may zerg, however i found no times where they could been using radar. GoL, HB, FC ... thoughts have been made, but let me be clear that i would never think they used it based on what i've seen and how they react.

Now flame on etc etc etc.

u should gets ur fact straight. What u comming with is serious, and when it dont match is sad tht u do it.
 
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old.Verata

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We use radar? Damn no-one tells me anything...
 
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ab_fluid

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Not that i deny what u say, but how can u say sheph uses Radar when Reklaw is leader of DH in rvr. NP/JH i can understand as they jump is to much its insane. But i just wonder where the sheph thing comes from
 
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old.Zanaa

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ask GOL zerg if we seem to use radar? retard :p. If our Sheph use radar when he soloes(soloing 42reg -------->WARDEN<-------....yeah sheph soloes ALOT!!!) i know nothing about, but only times he drive Dem hibbies groups is when Bard is afk Ligen-Bolg, and never seen him drive any other groups either. If we had been using radar you don't think it had been on the bard?
 
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old.FIN

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omg, u peeps cant be this tupid can u?

past 8 years what i been playning online games there has been cheats and there alwys will be cheats, why? that u all need to think by yourself, not by advice or "rules" by some1 else!!

and if u think and been reading this forum past 2 yars, u also know the effects what they will cause, and lomoald's reasons r like 5% of that stuff

but its always the same, always, if its online game there is always peeps that think word WIN is based how good they r in pvp / rvr and how many batles they win, but it aint!!

online gaming is based friendship and chatting and stuffl like those as u all know, those who play these kind of games, and also reactions vs cheating r so strong because every1 knows even those who cheats that in long run those will destroy game play and peeps change game!

positive point i will point that in daoc that "friendship" is very strong and thats why this BW gorum is full of blames and flames, connection to other peeps in this same game is strong, i still remember loads of peeps who play daoc , and who have ben played thhis game called daoc, and usually i use same name in different game, and thats makes it more harder to give up daoc, have done it 6 months ago, but i still write things in here.


but back to point, there will be always cheats, there will be always peeps who will use them, there will be always peeps who know how to get them, but they dont use them. AND there is always only 1 way to find out those peeps who cheats, specially in radar, that u have to use them by yourself to figure out and look how peeps r moving and etc etc, without "good" proof u cant say shit, but if u usue RADAR , u can c it by yourself how u move and how enemy is moving, and spaeciall yin daoc when even makers cant make 100 % program to detect those kind of programs so why they dont bother even do it so is so simple!!

they will make huge prgoram change, test, employeees, etc etc, just think how far it can go , and then some n00b hacks it after 3 months, or usually even faster, and all that effort what dev team been doing is gone to toilet and to ocean and smells like shit, and only whats been done is been waste of money.

So GOA/Mythic has invented different style, whats pretty clever, to get cash, they get add ons and so on and if u look carefully also some firms r doing same thing, and of course it will get peeps who play quit the gafme, but they will also get more peeps to play game and with those lost monthly pays they sell game and all it addons to new peeps, and so on, use brains!!!


so give lomald a brake, he is trying to the right thing, he wont never succeed in it, but he will get many followers, and after they all c that all is done to nothing most of them have changed game allrdy and started allover, and change again game when major cheats arrive to to that game..



so u r correct, but just try to look what point of the game u r and then think, if its 1 week old then there usually aint cheats, but if its 2years+ old and u can find cheats from google inside 10 secs, then just think why u r playing and u aint cheating, and hope loads peeps r thinking the same.


happy new year

FIN
 
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Ravenbourne

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I notice you dont name any alb guilds, you wouldnt happen to be an alb would you?
 
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Tyka

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Hmm the replies after Lomalds long post are silly, being sarcastic and all.

I've been to rvr more than most of any of you replying here, and I've had all kinds of people running in my groups giving me all kinds of information, some very suspicious.

Not mentioning any names or so because I've not grouped with any of them lately, but saying things like "he does not use radar 100% because he does not lead", is bullshit.

Oh and to the people that are really surprised about this, and acting sarcasting, you're only making a fool out of yourself showing ignorance about the game.

I'll say it again in case anyone missed it, these programs are so common and GOA can't do anything about it, if you been playing this game a while in emain and suspect someone using radar after the third or fourth strange incident, they're probably using it.

It's more common than you believe and what Lomald did here is good.
 
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Sichama

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So now there has been some naming and shaming....so what?
Sorry about this Lomald i have to do it.

So you have some names of Guilds and Individuals, all Hib's or Mid's, and although the reason Lomald gives why he doesn't name and shame Albs may be true, then again it may not be true and he may only be biased, the names he gave may be true or they may not be true, he may only have a personal reasons to name and shame these certain players/guilds.

One thing that strikes me immediately is the fact that the names are so few, i bet if i was running a radar for over a month i could probably name and shame 2 pages of people, if not and those few names would only come up then heh the only thing i can say is whooopyyyy the servers are clean from cheaters and that the overwhelming majority of European players are mature people that understand that cheating in a game is a very stupid thing to do. How many really believe that this is the case?

Even in this litle name and shame post Lomald did, he somwhere mixed up some thing about some persons....

My main point is that it is allready obvious that the post can not be taken seriously, the only thing it did is give some players that also have issues with these players/guilds the right to continue accusing them, and all the rest of us view them with sceptisism, and with what evidence? no evidence whatsoever, because as far as i am concerned Lomald may have not even done what he is saying he did in the first place and is only using it to strengthen his words.

This is not a personal attack at Lomald which i believe has done a right thing by reporting possible cheaters to GoA, i am only doing this to show people that the name and shame thing is stupid and without real meaning.

Not to mention that in the end, what exactly do the rest you think that you can do to them, do you really believe you people have any power over other people playing the game? get reall will you? especially cheaters, because those who cheat by definition don't give a shit about the rest of the community in exchange you can't touch them either.

I liked this from Fin very much...

Originally posted by old.FIN
...2years+ old (the game) and u can find cheats from google inside 10 secs, then just think why u r playing and u aint cheating, and hope loads peeps r thinking the same.
very well put, maybe not in perfect English but hey who is perfect anyway :), but very well put.

And to Ziva and the mod's...
stop beeing so patronizing, you do realize that the people that play the game are not in the majority, morons that need either your protection or guidance but people that can take care of themselves?

Not to mention that the only people that there is a very very very slim possiblity that don't know about cheats in any game they are playing are the ones that don't read forums, don't search the Internet for things about their game, dont discuss their gaming with other people etc. etc. You tell me how many people that play online games fit that profile.


In the end there can be only one solution, the Dev team behind UO saw the truth some years ago and started giving UO approved logos on some third party programs and everyone was allowed to use them, in the end if everyone has the ability to use something it stops beeing a cheat and becomes just another feature in game.
 
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sheph

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Note; I was tired when i wrote it, i mistook sheph for bards named: Fame and Tomatera. Sheph duo with them around apk so was my mistake mixing them up, still sheph was with them.

Have i missed something ?

NM... got it explained now... cant remember when i duod with Fame or Tomatera though.
 
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old.Zanaa

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I don't mind if he gives names of people who use radar, I think everybody who played with Zarko have seen it. But dem hibbies is 1fg guild and during the 3? months I've played with them there has been no signs of it. We always take the same routes and the number of times we have run straight into alb zergs at ridge or being zergadded on 10sec after we started a fight are countless. Numerous albs/mids/grouped hibs should be able to confirm this from emain, as well as people jumping us when we are resting etc.

Serious accusations need good proof, why should I not flame when I am innocent and got marked by this pig?
 
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VodkaFairy

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Originally posted by Lomald Umilinn
Soloers/Duoers: Mercuria (Bard) ...like to know what the accusation is based on.
 
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old.Zanaa

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well thinking about it again, this could also be some noob who think running around the road at apk, licking zonewalls or reacting on inc lag is radarusing.
 
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Hestetun

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Originally posted by mewdy
Retard.

well m8 , have been only 2 drivers in LA for a long time , and thats Blazie and Miss :p
 
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sethnaket

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Originally posted by Lomald Umilinn
Hib guilds:
Llaw Arian (different drivers)
Celtic Fist (different drivers)
Dem Hibbies

Mid Guilds:
Nolby Pride (Different drivers, had hard to find any specific one... not whole guild, just a few in their groups who givs radar info)
Jack Herer (Different drivers, also hard to find any specific one)

Soloers/Duoers:
Zarko (Hero)
Mercuria (Bard)
Fame (Bard)
Tomatera (Bard)

So basically this thread was just a drawn-out way for you to whine at the top mid and hib guilds, with some soloers who prolly bitchslapped you one time too many thrown in, right?

You could've just done like the other sore losers who've accused those guilds before and write it in the first post and saved some space on the msgboard.
 
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mewdy

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Originally posted by Hestetun
well m8 , have been only 2 drivers in LA for a long time , and thats Blazie and Miss :p

So you are sad you lost best your bard then? :|
 
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adari

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The more I read this load of crap the more I realise these accusations are based on assumptions rather than proof.

If I were you Lomald I'd get your facts straight before you continue ranting on about who you think does and does not use radar, right now your just like any other random idiot accusing people of using radar. We have enough of those in the RvR section I think.
 
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old.Zuljin

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Here is what you can get, name and shame, but then again maybe i'll get flamed .. the only way you actually can get the information i've obtained is by .. cheating yourself with radar.

Hib guilds:
Llaw Arian (different drivers)
Celtic Fist (different drivers)
Dem Hibbies

Mid Guilds:
Nolby Pride (Different drivers, had hard to find any specific one... not whole guild, just a few in their groups who givs radar info)
Jack Herer (Different drivers, also hard to find any specific one)

Soloers/Duoers:
Zarko (Hero)
Mercuria (Bard)
Fame (Bard)
Tomatera (Bard)

see, albs don't use Radar according to you, yes, albs are the "nice ppl" that plays regular as the game should be played ( yeh right ) ..
as for the guilds.. im pretty sure that NO ONE in CF is useing radar, but your lack of intelligence seems to tell you that we do.

LA, CF and DH got very skilled players, and we use our logic and /as to figure where the enemy is.
and again, i dont have much leftover for ppl with an IQ below 1 so please just FO and stop blameing ppl before you got proof!.
 
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Falcon

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The second you posted your list based purely on jealousy and no proof whatsoever you lost all credibility and proved yourself a complete idiot in a single post, Lomald.

Shame really, you were doing ok up until that.
 
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old.Xanthian

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heh..
I disagree with the accusation towards LA.
I was a member of LA for a month or so (till i decided to go inactive) and the countless times we got zerged was unbelievable.
And as far as I can recall i've grouped with 3 or 4 different LA drivers, Miss, Blazie, Catchme and Gargo, none of them seemed suspicious what so ever. If they used radar, we would of avoided the zergs indeffinatly, which we never..

This is a load of bollocks, just another random Alb zergling whining about being beaten repeatedly, so he turns to the lowest form of excuse possible.
 
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Arnor

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well, this sure was interesting :p

as I said, be sure your 100% sure before accusing/naming&shaming, which it seems you havent oO

Looking forward to the next version, where everyone will use it "to find other radar users"..... :rolleyes:
 
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taen

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tbh a lot of ppl assumed some of the guilds u mentioned were using radar .. im suprised at NP and DH but as for JH and LA its just confirming a long held belief of most albs... actually its a bit of a joke in alb at this stage .. i just hope that these cheats get their accts banned ... and for the ppl who are in these guilds and dont drive, dont be so stupid to assume that because u dont know anything about radar dosent mean ur driver isnt using it. Also ppl who say that they use /cg and /as and their logic to find a fight . BULLSHIT .. alb has the biggest stealter pop and biggest numbers in emain and he still didnt see any alb guilds noticeably reacting the way hib and mid guilds did ..
 
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taen

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Oh btw /clap and /cheer to Lomald for having the balls to try and do something about this .. well done m8 :D
 
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old.Icebreaker

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LOL what a load of bollox....


You come here posting this guy and this one and this guild and this guild using radar and you don't even have a proof. I believe you when you can get some facts instead of some funky
guessing....


Until that all i see here is a Radar cheating Lomald...ban etc....
 
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taen

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Originally posted by Arnor
Looking forward to the next version, where everyone will use it "to find other radar users"..... :rolleyes: [/B]

imo 99% of ppl in this game wouldnt ever want to use radar .. what the fuck is the point of a game if u have to cheat to win .. are these ppl who cheat so obsessed with winning and looking l33t that they sacrifice the fun and any kind of satisfaction in winning.. How sad ..
 
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