Icebreaker
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With this we start:
http://www.camelotherald.com/more/1315.shtml
And one German made those posts, he doesnt give a link to those posts. He just posted some interesting parts in the german forum:
Zitat:
They were idiots. Basically they enabled the GM "flymode" in the client. This is actually quite easy to do since it is a client-side check which turns it on. The reason these guys got caught was the basic speedhack code that Mythic has in place. They moved too fast, speedhack alarm went off, busted. I give them 5 points for style, but -350986 points for not thinking that they'd set off the only hack protection Mythic has.
There's a boolean value on the client, which has to be set by the server. Once it is turned on, there are quite a few GM /commands which are enabled. Flymode and warp are two of those. Basically all someone has to do it flip on the bool with a quick WriteProcessMemory and they're good to go. I saw back in 2001 and I'm suprised it's taken someone so long to do it.
After this one he posted a funky list for the US Servers with the amount of ppl who used atleast one time Radar:
People who have tried XXX by Server / Realm
Report generated on: 2004-Feb-08
Galahad: (129) Albion: 24% Midgard: 44% Hibernia: 30%
Mordred: (417) Albion: 30% Midgard: 28% Hibernia: 41%
Percival: (148) Albion: 26% Midgard: 40% Hibernia: 33%
MorganLeFay: (186) Albion: 20% Midgard: 34% Hibernia: 44%
Igraine: ( 57) Albion: 54% Midgard: 21% Hibernia: 24%
Merlin: (301) Albion: 20% Midgard: 36% Hibernia: 43%
Palomides: ( 92) Albion: 17% Midgard: 50% Hibernia: 32%
Guinevere: (192) Albion: 31% Midgard: 30% Hibernia: 38%
Lancelot: (196) Albion: 25% Midgard: 25% Hibernia: 49%
Pellinor: ( 91) Albion: 20% Midgard: 40% Hibernia: 38%
Bedevere: ( 71) Albion: 35% Midgard: 35% Hibernia: 29%
Gaheris: ( 53) Albion: 33% Midgard: 20% Hibernia: 45%
Gawaine: ( 95) Albion: 18% Midgard: 37% Hibernia: 43%
Kay: ( 87) Albion: 50% Midgard: 24% Hibernia: 25%
Nimue: ( 54) Albion: 20% Midgard: 29% Hibernia: 50%
Tristan: (100) Albion: 21% Midgard: 43% Hibernia: 36%
Iseult: ( 89) Albion: 28% Midgard: 31% Hibernia: 40%
Bors: ( 75) Albion: 29% Midgard: 34% Hibernia: 36%
Pendragon: ( 14) Albion: 42% Midgard: 35% Hibernia: 21%
and here Mythic reacted on it with the Pach 1.68c
Zitat:
Update: Mythic has done a wonderful job with these changes.
* They don't hand off the key in plantext any more
* They use all new symmetric encryption, one for outgoing, one for incoming it seems
* They've renumbered allllll the packets.
It's really beautiful!
(...)
Breaking a memory based radar is a lot harder, since the client already does all the work and you just read his results. There can be ways to make it more work for those radar developers, so let's see if they do that.
As for skilla, it's dead. If someone picks it up, they're going to have to break the RSA encryption to get the key, rewrite all the symmetric encryption algorithms, and figure out the new numbers of all the packet types. Of course, every patch can change some of those things, so it's like a full time job.
.
And at the end another list for our servers. Quite impressive how many ppl used/use Radar.
193.252.123.45: (115) Albion: 37% Midgard: 25% Hibernia: 37% <---- Avalon
193.252.123.153: ( 91) Albion: 14% Midgard: 40% Hibernia: 45% <---- Dartmoor
193.252.123.134: ( 9 Albion: 47% Midgard: 27% Hibernia: 24% <---- Logres
193.252.123.33: (199) Albion: 28% Midgard: 29% Hibernia: 41% Excalibur
193.252.123.11: (177) Albion: 36% Midgard: 35% Hibernia: 28% <---- Lyonesse
193.252.123.177: (122) Albion: 41% Midgard: 27% Hibernia: 30% Prydwen
193.252.123.14: (106) Albion: 23% Midgard: 38% Hibernia: 37% <---- Stonehenge
193.252.123.147: (115) Albion: 37% Midgard: 31% Hibernia: 31% Camlann
193.252.123.139: ( 23) Albion: 43% Midgard: 47% Hibernia: 8%
193.252.123.34: ( 49) Albion: 42% Midgard: 20% Hibernia: 36%
193.252.123.171: ( 21) Albion: 14% Midgard: 61% Hibernia: 23%
193.252.123.12: ( 39) Albion: 30% Midgard: 28% Hibernia: 41%
http://www.camelotherald.com/more/1315.shtml
And one German made those posts, he doesnt give a link to those posts. He just posted some interesting parts in the german forum:
Zitat:
They were idiots. Basically they enabled the GM "flymode" in the client. This is actually quite easy to do since it is a client-side check which turns it on. The reason these guys got caught was the basic speedhack code that Mythic has in place. They moved too fast, speedhack alarm went off, busted. I give them 5 points for style, but -350986 points for not thinking that they'd set off the only hack protection Mythic has.
There's a boolean value on the client, which has to be set by the server. Once it is turned on, there are quite a few GM /commands which are enabled. Flymode and warp are two of those. Basically all someone has to do it flip on the bool with a quick WriteProcessMemory and they're good to go. I saw back in 2001 and I'm suprised it's taken someone so long to do it.
After this one he posted a funky list for the US Servers with the amount of ppl who used atleast one time Radar:
People who have tried XXX by Server / Realm
Report generated on: 2004-Feb-08
Galahad: (129) Albion: 24% Midgard: 44% Hibernia: 30%
Mordred: (417) Albion: 30% Midgard: 28% Hibernia: 41%
Percival: (148) Albion: 26% Midgard: 40% Hibernia: 33%
MorganLeFay: (186) Albion: 20% Midgard: 34% Hibernia: 44%
Igraine: ( 57) Albion: 54% Midgard: 21% Hibernia: 24%
Merlin: (301) Albion: 20% Midgard: 36% Hibernia: 43%
Palomides: ( 92) Albion: 17% Midgard: 50% Hibernia: 32%
Guinevere: (192) Albion: 31% Midgard: 30% Hibernia: 38%
Lancelot: (196) Albion: 25% Midgard: 25% Hibernia: 49%
Pellinor: ( 91) Albion: 20% Midgard: 40% Hibernia: 38%
Bedevere: ( 71) Albion: 35% Midgard: 35% Hibernia: 29%
Gaheris: ( 53) Albion: 33% Midgard: 20% Hibernia: 45%
Gawaine: ( 95) Albion: 18% Midgard: 37% Hibernia: 43%
Kay: ( 87) Albion: 50% Midgard: 24% Hibernia: 25%
Nimue: ( 54) Albion: 20% Midgard: 29% Hibernia: 50%
Tristan: (100) Albion: 21% Midgard: 43% Hibernia: 36%
Iseult: ( 89) Albion: 28% Midgard: 31% Hibernia: 40%
Bors: ( 75) Albion: 29% Midgard: 34% Hibernia: 36%
Pendragon: ( 14) Albion: 42% Midgard: 35% Hibernia: 21%
and here Mythic reacted on it with the Pach 1.68c
Zitat:
Update: Mythic has done a wonderful job with these changes.
* They don't hand off the key in plantext any more
* They use all new symmetric encryption, one for outgoing, one for incoming it seems
* They've renumbered allllll the packets.
It's really beautiful!
(...)
Breaking a memory based radar is a lot harder, since the client already does all the work and you just read his results. There can be ways to make it more work for those radar developers, so let's see if they do that.
As for skilla, it's dead. If someone picks it up, they're going to have to break the RSA encryption to get the key, rewrite all the symmetric encryption algorithms, and figure out the new numbers of all the packet types. Of course, every patch can change some of those things, so it's like a full time job.
.
And at the end another list for our servers. Quite impressive how many ppl used/use Radar.
193.252.123.45: (115) Albion: 37% Midgard: 25% Hibernia: 37% <---- Avalon
193.252.123.153: ( 91) Albion: 14% Midgard: 40% Hibernia: 45% <---- Dartmoor
193.252.123.134: ( 9 Albion: 47% Midgard: 27% Hibernia: 24% <---- Logres
193.252.123.33: (199) Albion: 28% Midgard: 29% Hibernia: 41% Excalibur
193.252.123.11: (177) Albion: 36% Midgard: 35% Hibernia: 28% <---- Lyonesse
193.252.123.177: (122) Albion: 41% Midgard: 27% Hibernia: 30% Prydwen
193.252.123.14: (106) Albion: 23% Midgard: 38% Hibernia: 37% <---- Stonehenge
193.252.123.147: (115) Albion: 37% Midgard: 31% Hibernia: 31% Camlann
193.252.123.139: ( 23) Albion: 43% Midgard: 47% Hibernia: 8%
193.252.123.34: ( 49) Albion: 42% Midgard: 20% Hibernia: 36%
193.252.123.171: ( 21) Albion: 14% Midgard: 61% Hibernia: 23%
193.252.123.12: ( 39) Albion: 30% Midgard: 28% Hibernia: 41%